1. #1
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    How to Fix the Mets for 2013......

    .....okay guys I am bored and had a few Blue Moons citrus flavored. Seeing the Mets do absolutely nothing and collapse over the last two weeks has me thinking. How do we fix this team for next year and continue playing 6 full months of baseball like we did up until the All-Star break this year?

    Here Are my Moves:


    (1) Trade R.A. Dickey: Yup....that's right you heard me. This guy has super value being a knuckle baller that can win games and throw K's doing it. Very little good value in the free agent market for pitchers next year too. Mets can really fleece a team for him right now.

    I say trade R.A. Dickey and Ronnie Cedeno (2B) to the Twins for right handed power bat Josh Willingham and relief pitcher Alex Burnett. Right here the Mets have already addressed their bullpen issues and got themselves a much needed power right hander to bat 5th behind Ike Davis.


    (2) Cut Jason Bay: Release this @sshole already. Next year will be the final year of his contract and I say the Mets just eat the remaining one year and send him walking. Guy is the worst hitter in the Majors right now and has been clueless at the plate since 2010. Besides now we would have Willingham to take his place.

    (3) Go With a Valdespin/Duda Platoon in Right Field: Both these guys can mash and hit in the clutch when on their game. Right now Duda is struggling and down in AAA Buffalo but Giordanni Valdespin is picking up the slack for him. Between the two of them you can get 28-35 HR's a year at that platoon position an slot either of them in the #6 hole.

    (4) Re-Sign David Wright: This guy is a stud and the face of the franchise. 6 years-$92 million and put this to bed already. No reason why he shouldn't retire a Met....guy is a class act.

    (5) Trade Scott Hairston Now: This guy has shown decent power and has some value. Padres could use a cheap productive bat like this and the Mets could get a potential sleeper #5 starter in return in Staten Island product Jason Marquis (who seems to be trying to re-invent himself ala Jason Isringhausen of 2011) and a solid reliever in Dale Thayer.

    (6) Dip Into the Free Agent Market: There are some moderately under priced players in the free agent pool at the end of this season. You need to replace Dickey.....sign Dan Haren to a 3 year $26 contract. Plug him into the rotation as your # 2 with Dickey gone. Niese will be your #3 and Matt Harvey your #4. Jason Marquis or Dillon Gee the #5 starter with Johan as your ace.

    (7) Move Mike Pelfrey to the Bullpen: Guy cannot pitch consistently as a big league starter. But still has electric stuff in bursts.....should make for a shut down middle reliever. Pelfrey, Parnell, Francisco, Thayer and Alex Burnett is a sick bullpen to me.

    (8) Another Free Agent Move: Still need production form the catcher and the CF spot. Sign B.J Upton to a 3 year $27 million deal. Guy can still steal bases and play great CF. Hasn't panned out to be a superstar yet and hype on him is fading. Land him cheap Sandy Alderson. Also add a lefty reliever like J.C. Romero for $1 million for one year and get rid of that bum Tim Byrdak.

    (9) Power hitting Catcher Please:Josh Thole is a great bench player and fill-in but just not an everyday MLB catcher. Mets should sign power hitting catcher Mike Napoli for 2 years $10 million total.


    There problem solved. Rotation will be (1) Santana (2) Haren (3) Niese (4) Harvey (5) Marquis (or Gee or Wheeler)

    Line up: (1) B.J. Upton (2) Dan Murphy (3) David Wright (4) Ike Davis (5) Josh Willingham (6) Valdespin or Duda (7) Napoli (8) Ruben Tejada (9) Pitcher


    Bullpen : (1) Pelfrey (2) Parnell (3) Romero (4) Burnett (5) Thayer (6) Francisco




    This is an 88-93 win team right here.
    Points Awarded:

    lunchbawks gave NYSportsGuy210 12 SBR Point(s) for this post.


  2. #2
    KingJD31
    KingJD31's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-04-11
    Posts: 8,167
    Betpoints: 7042

    why would you trade scott hairston for jason marquis? we have young pitching rotation about to be established in wheeler harvey familia niese and gee

    trade santana and dickey for bullpen

    get bay the fuk out

    valdespin everyday center fielder duda everyday right and platoon baxter and hairston in left

    and thats it.

  3. #3
    ZetaPsi808
    July 2011 Poster of the Month
    ZetaPsi808's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-18-08
    Posts: 12,119
    Betpoints: 1982


  4. #4
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    Quote Originally Posted by KingJD31 View Post
    why would you trade scott hairston for jason marquis? we have young pitching rotation about to be established in wheeler harvey familia niese and gee

    trade santana and dickey for bullpen

    get bay the fuk out

    valdespin everyday center fielder duda everyday right and platoon baxter and hairston in left

    and thats it.


    Please you have made the team worse....thank god you will never be a GM.

  5. #5
    konck
    Listen the toilet is flushing
    konck's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-17-06
    Posts: 12,551
    Betpoints: 2287

    You do not have much knowledge

  6. #6
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    Quote Originally Posted by konck View Post
    You do not have much knowledge
    Never heard of ya pal.....keep movin.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: hawley

  7. #7
    lunchbawks
    NB#
    lunchbawks's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-31-10
    Posts: 12,873
    Betpoints: 173

    10: sign more black players

    all good teams have a great black player, look around the league

  8. #8
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbawks View Post
    10: sign more black players

    all good teams have a great black player, look around the league
    All hail Darryl Strawberry.....

  9. #9
    konck
    Listen the toilet is flushing
    konck's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-17-06
    Posts: 12,551
    Betpoints: 2287

    Johan is fading Pelfrey is out 18 months will never pitch as a Met again. Bay is Guaranteed 19 mill next yr no matter what happens Mets wont pay and release him. Valdy Turner Newy Baxter all have talent Newy needs to learn to hit the curve. Dickey is the ace of the staff Gee Niese n Harvey fill in nicely behind him. Wheeler will come up next yr like Harvey did this year. We have 3 stud pitchers in single A ball including Tapia who cracks 100. Famalia some teams want him he throw 95-98 but cant find the plate dump him for a hitter. Get rid of Collins he plays old Vets because he feels safer we need Backman. Mets have a good team they need to make some pen moves and find a bat trade Davis his swing has to many holes in it. Duda Turner and Baxter all can play 1st.

  10. #10
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    Quote Originally Posted by konck View Post
    Johan is fading Pelfrey is out 18 months will never pitch as a Met again. Bay is Guaranteed 19 mill next yr no matter what happens Mets wont pay and release him. Valdy Turner Newy Baxter all have talent Newy needs to learn to hit the curve. Dickey is the ace of the staff Gee Niese n Harvey fill in nicely behind him. Wheeler will come up next yr like Harvey did this year. We have 3 stud pitchers in single A ball including Tapia who cracks 100. Famalia some teams want him he throw 95-98 but cant find the plate dump him for a hitter. Get rid of Collins he plays old Vets because he feels safer we need Backman. Mets have a good team they need to make some pen moves and find a bat trade Davis his swing has to many holes in it. Duda Turner and Baxter all can play 1st.

    You have three stud pitchers in single-A.....great. How does that help the team in 2013? And you are basically naming mediocre to scrub players to come and replace other mediocre to scrub hitters. Dude you are an idiot.

  11. #11
    ShivaBowl
    Update your status
    ShivaBowl's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-09-10
    Posts: 5,133

    Wheeler should be up this week, SUN?

  12. #12
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Simple

    maybe a stud pitcher

    A few decent hitters, high priced free agents are a losing prop in MLB

  13. #13
    allabout the $$$
    Update your status
    allabout the $$$'s Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-17-10
    Posts: 9,825
    Betpoints: 26713

    i like the plan but i think your salaries are off with some of those guys. wright has to get a minimum of 6 years 105 mill. dont think he signs for less than that, you really think haren will take less than 10 mill per season?

  14. #14
    pattymayo
    pattymayo's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-19-09
    Posts: 10,221
    Betpoints: 159

    So, Dan Haren is going to sign with the Mets for LESS money than he's making now? You don't think another team will offer him more?

    Dickey for Willingham & Burnett? What sense does that make? Why not save the $ signing Haren and keep Dickey, who obviously loves pitching in NY, is extremely durable and a fukkin gamer?

    When has Duda been a clutch hitter?

    Cutting Bay does them no good. They have to ride out his contract, he'll just be coming off the bench a lot more.

    I agree with who you think they need, but you have some unrealistic goals in grabbing them.

  15. #15
    gafl
    gafl's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-07-06
    Posts: 656
    Betpoints: 706

    One thing to remember, since Wilpon's financial problems with the Madoff Ponzi scheme, he has no money to invest in the team. Had a possible solution in Einhorn, but they could not reach an agreement. MLB is closely watching Wilpon's finances.

  16. #16
    allabout the $$$
    Update your status
    allabout the $$$'s Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-17-10
    Posts: 9,825
    Betpoints: 26713

    Quote Originally Posted by gafl View Post
    One thing to remember, since Wilpon's financial problems with the Madoff Ponzi scheme, he has no money to invest in the team. Had a possible solution in Einhorn, but they could not reach an agreement. MLB is closely watching Wilpon's finances.
    they have settled the wilpons finances arent an issue anymore

  17. #17
    KingJD31
    KingJD31's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-04-11
    Posts: 8,167
    Betpoints: 7042

    Just got promoted to triple a should be on the bigs very soon
    Quote Originally Posted by ShivaBowl View Post
    Wheeler should be up this week, SUN?

  18. #18
    zoo youk
    zoo youk's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-11
    Posts: 10,701
    Betpoints: 1197

    the way these scouts over value our current players is just unbelievable. they never want to trade anybody cause they think everyone is going to blossom into a super star. a week ago the Padres offered Luke Gregerson straight up for Daniel Murphy and the Mets turned it down. how do you turn that down! Murphy is nothing special and Tejada can play a much better 2nd base than Murph and is going to be a better hitter than Murph and you get back one of the top bullpen guys in the NL...when we have one of the worst bullpens. seriously how do you turn that down??

    now this...

    10:57am:
    The Tigers have considered
    Alfonso Soriano
    , but don't think he's a great fit, Knobler reports (on
    Twitter
    ). They
    asked
    about
    Scott Hairston
    , but the Mets wanted one of the Tigers' top five prospects in return.

  19. #19
    zoo youk
    zoo youk's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-11
    Posts: 10,701
    Betpoints: 1197

    you think you are going to get a top five prospect for scott freakin hairston? my god. trade em while his value is high but jeesus hes not high enough to get atop five prospect!

  20. #20
    KingJD31
    KingJD31's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-04-11
    Posts: 8,167
    Betpoints: 7042

    I like what Alderson's doing, either A there might be a team dumb enough or desperate enough to give up a top 5 prospect for Hairston, or B don't trade him at all because what are they going to get possibly a good future bench player?

  21. #21
    zoo youk
    zoo youk's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-11
    Posts: 10,701
    Betpoints: 1197

    Quote Originally Posted by KingJD31 View Post
    I like what Alderson's doing, either A there might be a team dumb enough or desperate enough to give up a top 5 prospect for Hairston, or B don't trade him at all because what are they going to get possibly a good future bench player?
    I guess but to turn down Gregerson for Murphy is unthinkable

  22. #22
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    Quote Originally Posted by allabout the $$$ View Post
    i like the plan but i think your salaries are off with some of those guys. wright has to get a minimum of 6 years 105 mill. dont think he signs for less than that, you really think haren will take less than 10 mill per season?
    Haren is on the wrong side of 30 and isn't the pitcher he was from 2007-2011. Great to try and get him on a down year.

  23. #23
    NYSportsGuy210
    NYSportsGuy210's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-07-09
    Posts: 11,347
    Betpoints: 131

    Actually it looks like Zach Wheeler is dominating A and AA ball. At the rate he is going he might be the #5 pitcher to open next year along with Harvey. In which case you have Santana, Dickey, Wheeler, Harvey and Niese....that's a pretty sick starting 5 as is.

    Still think they need to re-sign Wright, get a power offensive bat (right -handed) like Willingham and B.J. Upton to play CF. Also sure up that bullpen.

Top