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    leafy nice job pal

    we look forward to your parlay on wednesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    leafy nice job pal

    we look forward to your parlay on wednesday
    Loving the new avatar Zeta. Still dropped $100 on the day due to the Yanks blowing dudes for loose change.

    Will go scope lines now.

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    Looked at lines last night as well... my play of the day is the Cleveland Indians -105 (you will notice it's not part of my parlay as it seems whenever I put a game I bet relatively big on in the Parlay, it's the only one that loses, and I get buried on both bets).

    8/1

    Ticket#:9149466
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    PARLAY (4 TEAMS)
    [909] TOTAL o7½-115 (MIA MARLINS vrs ATL BRAVES)
    ( W. LEBLANC -L / B. SHEETS -R )
    [912] CIN REDS -200
    ( ACTION )
    [918] NY YANKEES -200
    ( ACTION )
    [929] TOTAL o7EV (TOR BLUE JAYS vrs SEA MARINERS)
    ( C. VILLANUEVA - / B. BEAVAN -R )
    20 / 148

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    3-5 +406

    8/3

    8/3/2012 7:52 AM Parlay 11 114
    Baseball - 906 Cincinnati Reds -141 for Game W Rodriguz -L Must Pitch M Latos -R Must Pitch
    Baseball - 908 Atlanta Braves -260 for Game Galarraga -R Must Pitch T Hudson -R Must Pitch
    Baseball - 913 New York Mets/San Diego Padres over 6½ +100 for Game R Dickey -R Must Pitch C Richard -L Must Pitch
    Baseball - 920 New York Yankees -255 for Game K Millwood -R Must Pitch CC Sabathia - L Must Pitch
    Baseball - 925 Los Angeles Angels -139 for Game Z Greinke -R Must Pitch P Humber -R Must Pitch

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    3-6 +395

    8/8

    8/8/2012 9:24 AM Parlay 42 224
    Baseball - 951 Cincinnati Reds -150 for Game M Latos -R Must Pitch R Wolf -L Must Pitch
    Baseball - 961 Washington Nationals -215 for Game G Gonzalez -L Must Pitch Galarraga -R Must Pitch
    Baseball - 966 Los Angeles Dodgers -205 for Game J Francis -L Must Pitch Billingsly -R Must Pitch
    Baseball - 971 Los Angeles Angels -134 for Game Z Greinke -R Must Pitch D Straily -R Must Pitch

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    same parlay as me, lets hit it

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    Leafy has been hot lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808 View Post
    Leafy has been hot lately
    haha been cold. May have another Parlay today though.

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    3-7 +353

    8/14

    131392511-1 8/14/12 10:29am $10.00 $182.84 Pending 5 Team Parlay
    Pending 8/14/12 7:10pm MLB Baseball 954 Miami Marlins -140* vs Philadelphia Phillies (K Kendrick - R must Start J Johnson - R must Start)
    Pending 8/14/12 7:10pm MLB Baseball 956 Cincinnati Reds -1½ +110* vs New York Mets (C Young - R must Start M Latos - R must Start)
    Pending 8/14/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 967 Boston Red Sox Over 4 -115* vs Baltimore Orioles (J Beckett - R must Start W Chen - L must Start)
    Pending 8/14/12 8:10pm MLB Baseball 975 Oakland Athletics -114* vs Kansas City Royals (J Parker - R must Start J Guthrie - R must Start)
    Pending 8/14/12 10:05pm MLB Baseball 978 Los Angeles Angels -190* vs Cleveland Indians (U Jimenez - R must Start Z Greinke - R must Start)

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    3-8 +343

    08/24/2012 - ONLINE at 10:17 AM
    [Ticket #: 123277235] PARLAY (5 TEAMS) RR (1P-5T)
    08/24/2012 @ 11:20 AM MLB [952] TOTAL u9½-105 (COL ROCKIES vrs CHI CUBS)
    ( D POMERANZ -L / SAMARDZIJA-R )
    08/24/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [953] TOTAL o8-110 (WAS NATIONALS vrs PHI PHILLIES)
    ( E JACKSON -R / K KENDRICK-R )
    08/24/2012 @ 04:10 PM MLB [960] CIN REDS -119
    ( ACTION )
    08/24/2012 @ 04:10 PM MLB [975] TOTAL o6½-120 (OAK A`S vrs TB RAYS)
    ( J PARKER -R / M MOORE -L )
    08/24/2012 @ 05:05 PM MLB [978] TEX RANGERS -235
    ( ACTION )
    10.00 169.27

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    3-9 +333

    08/25/2012 - ONLINE at 07:56 AM
    [Ticket #: 123328049] PARLAY (5 TEAMS) RR (1P-5T)
    08/25/2012 @ 06:10 PM MLB [915] TOTAL o6-110 (MIA MARLINS vrs LA DODGERS)
    ( J JOHNSON -R / C KERSHAW -L )
    08/25/2012 @ 01:05 PM MLB [920] TEX RANGERS -1½-135
    ( B DUENSING -L / R DEMPSTER -R )
    08/25/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [921] NY YANKEES -183
    ( ACTION )
    08/25/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [925] LA ANGELS -105
    ( ACTION )
    08/25/2012 @ 04:10 PM MLB [928] CHI WHITE SOX -187
    ( ACTION )
    15.00 215.99

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    Let's get it!!

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    3-10 +318


    8/28

    [Ticket #: 123490093] PARLAY (6 TEAMS) RR (1P-6T)
    08/28/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [952] PHI PHILLIES -148
    ( ACTION )
    08/28/2012 @ 05:05 PM MLB [957] MIL BREWERS -175
    ( ACTION )
    08/28/2012 @ 05:05 PM MLB [959] SFO GIANTS -220
    ( ACTION )
    08/28/2012 @ 06:40 PM MLB [963] CIN REDS -111
    ( ACTION )
    08/28/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [969] CHI WHITE SOX -147
    ( ACTION )
    08/28/2012 @ 05:10 PM MLB [975] DET TIGERS -200
    ( ACTION )
    10.00 173.50

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    well, the D backs and the angels are OK to bet, but the NYM will be team total over and the Was will be team total over too , so will see what happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenith8181 View Post
    well, the D backs and the angels are OK to bet, but the NYM will be team total over and the Was will be team total over too , so will see what happen...
    Thx for the input pal. Send me 2 pts! Click on the Coin sign under my name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanLeafOfBets View Post
    Thx for the input pal. Send me 2 pts! Click on the Coin sign under my name!
    Lol..thats a good way to get a SBR point.... Here I have my parley too if you are interested....almost same but I am 4 teamer

    $30.00 $133.34 Pending 4 Team Parlay
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 952 Philadelphia Phillies -140* vs New York Mets (C Young - R must Start V Worley - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 959 San Francisco Giants -205* vs Houston Astros (M Cain - R must Start B Norris - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 972 New York Yankees -230* vs Toronto Blue Jays (R Romero - L must Start P Hughes - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:10pm MLB Baseball 975 Detroit Tigers -205* vs Kansas City Royals (J Verlander - R must Start L Mendoza - R must Start)

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    Leafer you inspired me. I never do parlays but this is in your honor.

    Aug 28 07:05 PM
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    PARLAY (6 TEAMS)
    [952] PHILAD -149
    ( ACTION )
    [954] TOTAL u8EV (ST. LO vrs PITTSB)
    ( J WESTBROOK -R / J MCDONALD -R )
    [957] MILWAU -174
    ( ACTION )
    [963] CINCIN -118
    ( ACTION )
    [964] TOTAL u8-115 (CINCIN vrs ARIZON)
    ( J CUETO -R / W MILEY -L )
    [969] CHI. W -154
    ( ACTION )
    75.00 / 2173.71
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyStarter View Post
    Lol..thats a good way to get a SBR point.... Here I have my parley too if you are interested....almost same but I am 4 teamer

    $30.00 $133.34 Pending 4 Team Parlay
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 952 Philadelphia Phillies -140* vs New York Mets (C Young - R must Start V Worley - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 959 San Francisco Giants -205* vs Houston Astros (M Cain - R must Start B Norris - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 972 New York Yankees -230* vs Toronto Blue Jays (R Romero - L must Start P Hughes - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:10pm MLB Baseball 975 Detroit Tigers -205* vs Kansas City Royals (J Verlander - R must Start L Mendoza - R must Start)
    GL LS! Send me two pts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    Leafer you inspired me. I never do parlays but this is in your honor.

    Aug 28 07:05 PM
    Aug 28 07:05 PM
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    PARLAY (6 TEAMS)
    [952] PHILAD -149
    ( ACTION )
    [954] TOTAL u8EV (ST. LO vrs PITTSB)
    ( J WESTBROOK -R / J MCDONALD -R )
    [957] MILWAU -174
    ( ACTION )
    [963] CINCIN -118
    ( ACTION )
    [964] TOTAL u8-115 (CINCIN vrs ARIZON)
    ( J CUETO -R / W MILEY -L )
    [969] CHI. W -154
    ( ACTION )
    75.00 / 2173.71
    If this loses, I'm giving you a lecture on why it lost.

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    OK 1 more. If either of them hit I'm sending you 500 points. 50.00 / 1975.40

    Aug 28 07:05 PM
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    PARLAY (7 TEAMS)
    [951] TOTAL o8½-105 (NY MET vrs PHILAD)
    ( C YOUNG -R / V WORLEY -R )
    [954] TOTAL u8EV (ST. LO vrs PITTSB)
    ( J WESTBROOK -R / J MCDONALD -R )
    [957] MILWAU -174
    ( ACTION )
    [959] SAN FR -215
    ( ACTION )
    [964] TOTAL u8-115 (CINCIN vrs ARIZON)
    ( J CUETO -R / W MILEY -L )
    [965] ATLANT -165
    ( ACTION )
    [975] DETROI -201
    ( ACTION )

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    PS..I bet I already now your lecture topic.

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    How about this??

    $5.00 $1,664.13 Pending 11 Team Parlay
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 952 Philadelphia Phillies -1 -108* vs New York Mets (C Young - R must Start V Worley - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:10pm MLB Baseball 955 Washington Nationals/Miami Marlins Over 6½ -167* (S Strasburg - R must Start R Nolasco - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 957 Milwaukee Brewers -1 -143* vs Chicago Cubs (Y Gallardo - R must Start T Wood - L must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 959 San Francisco Giants -1 -178* vs Houston Astros (M Cain - R must Start B Norris - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:40pm MLB Baseball 961 Los Angeles Dodgers -160* vs Colorado Rockies (C Capuano - L must Start T Chatwood - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 9:40pm MLB Baseball 963 Cincinnati Reds/Arizona Diamondbacks Under 9 -175* (J Cueto - R must Start W Miley - L must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 10:05pm MLB Baseball 965 Atlanta Braves/San Diego Padres Over 6 -153* (K Medlen - R must Start A Werner - L must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 967 Oakland Athletics -1 +107* vs Cleveland Indians (T Milone - L must Start Z McAllister - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 972 New York Yankees -1 -170* vs Toronto Blue Jays (R Romero - L must Start P Hughes - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 974 Texas Rangers -124* vs Tampa Bay Rays (J Shields - R must Start Y Darvish - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:10pm MLB Baseball 975 Detroit Tigers -1 -159* vs Kansas City Royals (J Verlander - R must Start L Mendoza - R must Start)

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    Hahah getting some crazy parlays going on in here... GL w/ your plays guys!

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    Lol.....just having some fun..... Everyday I have 1 Super parley play apart from my regular bets but I dont expect them to win. just spending $5 for fun .....But u never know when ur luck hits

    GL all

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyStarter View Post
    Lol.....just having some fun..... Everyday I have 1 Super parley play apart from my regular bets but I dont expect them to win. just spending $5 for fun .....But u never know when ur luck hits

    GL all
    Parlays really are a lot of fun. Let's gooooooooooooooooooooooo

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    Well hit this one leafer but it doesn't count because it's not sexy enough. Nice hits today. Heard a rumor you were on the Tex/Tam under. Great call.

    MLB
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    PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
    [957] MILWAU -174
    ( ACTION )
    [959] SAN FR -215
    ( ACTION )
    [965] ATLANT -165
    ( ACTION )
    222.00 / 600.60 600.60 WIN
    WIN
    WIN
    WIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanLeafOfBets View Post
    Parlays really are a lot of fun. Let's gooooooooooooooooooooooo
    Ticket#:493458
    Aug 29 11:00 AM
    Aug 29 11:00 AM
    Aug 29 11:00 AM
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    Internet / -1Aug 29 12:52 AM
    MU
    MU
    MU
    MU
    PARLAY (4 TEAMS)
    [4067] B BAKER -490
    (B BAKER vrs J HAJEK)
    [4072] V TROICKI -400
    (C STEBE vrs V TROICKI)
    [4073] P KOHLSCHREIBER -445
    (P KOHLSCHREIBER vrs M LLODRA)
    [4075] G DIMITROV -285
    (G DIMITROV vrs B PAIRE)

    Take that and hammer it.


    Up$2500 from tennis parlays in last 2 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Ticket#:493458
    Aug 29 11:00 AM
    Aug 29 11:00 AM
    Aug 29 11:00 AM
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    Internet / -1Aug 29 12:52 AM
    MU
    MU
    MU
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    PARLAY (4 TEAMS)
    [4067] B BAKER -490
    (B BAKER vrs J HAJEK)
    [4072] V TROICKI -400
    (C STEBE vrs V TROICKI)
    [4073] P KOHLSCHREIBER -445
    (P KOHLSCHREIBER vrs M LLODRA)
    [4075] G DIMITROV -285
    (G DIMITROV vrs B PAIRE)

    Take that and hammer it.


    Up$2500 from tennis parlays in last 2 days
    Tailing my jihad brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    Well hit this one leafer but it doesn't count because it's not sexy enough. Nice hits today. Heard a rumor you were on the Tex/Tam under. Great call.

    MLB
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    PARLAY (3 TEAMS)
    [957] MILWAU -174
    ( ACTION )
    [959] SAN FR -215
    ( ACTION )
    [965] ATLANT -165
    ( ACTION )
    222.00 / 600.60 600.60 WIN
    WIN
    WIN
    WIN
    Nice hit pal! Indeed I was on The Texas/Rays under. Not for a ton though. (I think VV was on it too, and she prob thinks I stole it from her). +44 on the day. Boston buried me in the bottom of the 9th. Had them +180

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    3-11 +308

    [Ticket #: 123524923] PARLAY (5 TEAMS) RR (1P-5T)
    08/29/2012 @ 12:10 PM MLB [901] LA DODGERS -135
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 12:40 PM MLB [903] CIN REDS -132
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 03:35 PM MLB [905] ATL BRAVES -131
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [908] PHI PHILLIES -167
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 05:10 PM MLB [925] DET TIGERS -135
    ( ACTION )
    15.00 210.22

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanLeafOfBets View Post
    3-11 +308

    [Ticket #: 123524923] PARLAY (5 TEAMS) RR (1P-5T)
    08/29/2012 @ 12:10 PM MLB [901] LA DODGERS -135
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 12:40 PM MLB [903] CIN REDS -132
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 03:35 PM MLB [905] ATL BRAVES -131
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 04:05 PM MLB [908] PHI PHILLIES -167
    ( ACTION )
    08/29/2012 @ 05:10 PM MLB [925] DET TIGERS -135
    ( ACTION )
    15.00 210.22
    How confident are you about this parlay? Especially since Cole Hamels is no longer pitching this game
    Last edited by RavensFan2k3; 08-29-12 at 01:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3 View Post
    How confident are you about this parlay? Especially since Cole Hamels is no longer pitching this game
    I'm not that confident in any 5 team parlay... especially w/ Hamels getting scratched from his start today. I also have a 2 team parlay of Reds/Braves that I am confident in. Not going all in on it or anything, but it pays well.

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    Pending 8/29/12 3:40pm MLB Baseball 903 Cincinnati Reds -110* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Arizona Diamondbacks (M Latos - R must Start P Corbin - L must Start)
    Pending 8/29/12 1:05pm MLB Baseball 918 New York Yankees -240* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Toronto Blue Jays (J Happ - L must Start C Sabathia - L must Start)
    Win 8/29/12 12:30pm ATP Tennis 233 Brian Baker -650* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Jan Hajek
    Pending 8/29/12 12:30pm ATP Tennis 249 Grigor Dimitrov -285* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Benoit Paire
    Pending 8/29/12 1:00pm ATP Tennis 258 John Isner -650* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Xavier Malisse
    Pending 8/29/12 12:30pm ATP Tennis 282 Lleyton Hewitt -320* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Tobias Kamke
    Pending 8/29/12 12:30pm WTA Tennis 517 Na Li -1540* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Casey Dellacqua
    Pending 8/29/12 2:30pm WTA Tennis 522 Kim Clijsters -1120* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Laura Robson
    Pending 8/29/12 2:00pm WTA Tennis 554 Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova -890* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px; ">vs</small> Kristina Mladenovic

    $48.65 $788.97 Pending 10 Team Parlay

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyStarter View Post
    $5.00 $1,664.13 Pending 11 Team Parlay
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 952 Philadelphia Phillies -1 -108* vs New York Mets (C Young - R must Start V Worley - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:10pm MLB Baseball 955 Washington Nationals/Miami Marlins Over 6½ -167* (S Strasburg - R must Start R Nolasco - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 957 Milwaukee Brewers -1 -143* vs Chicago Cubs (Y Gallardo - R must Start T Wood - L must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 959 San Francisco Giants -1 -178* vs Houston Astros (M Cain - R must Start B Norris - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:40pm MLB Baseball 961 Los Angeles Dodgers -160* vs Colorado Rockies (C Capuano - L must Start T Chatwood - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 9:40pm MLB Baseball 963 Cincinnati Reds/Arizona Diamondbacks Under 9 -175* (J Cueto - R must Start W Miley - L must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 10:05pm MLB Baseball 965 Atlanta Braves/San Diego Padres Over 6 -153* (K Medlen - R must Start A Werner - L must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 967 Oakland Athletics -1 +107* vs Cleveland Indians (T Milone - L must Start Z McAllister - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 7:05pm MLB Baseball 972 New York Yankees -1 -170* vs Toronto Blue Jays (R Romero - L must Start P Hughes - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:05pm MLB Baseball 974 Texas Rangers -124* vs Tampa Bay Rays (J Shields - R must Start Y Darvish - R must Start)
    Pending 8/28/12 8:10pm MLB Baseball 975 Detroit Tigers -1 -159* vs Kansas City Royals (J Verlander - R must Start L Mendoza - R must Start)
    freaking awesome! I love these big boy parlays! They dont hit every time but when they do they are freaking sweet! I myself have a 13 teamer on NCAAF this weekend $5 into 17801.95 that would make for one great start to the season and one helluva Labor Day weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmgissy View Post
    freaking awesome! I love these big boy parlays! They dont hit every time but when they do they are freaking sweet! I myself have a 13 teamer on NCAAF this weekend $5 into 17801.95 that would make for one great start to the season and one helluva Labor Day weekend!
    whoa...I had alot of teams too, but didnt amount to no where near $17k...care to share?

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