[boeing power]

Only the second player in history to hit for the cycle twice in the same season.

Babe Herman did it in 1931 for the dodgers.

[ChalkyDog]

Absolutely insane, could have picked this shit head up all year in my fantasy league.

Was at the first cycle.

Weird shit. He isn't even uber talented or anything.

Best player on that team is Goldschmidt. He was a single away from the cycle in that game v. the cubs with Maholm pitching.

[BuddyBear]

Nothing special. All a cycle is is a statistical oddity. No special skill required to do it other than luck.

[govolz]

No special skill huh? So when he was a home run away or the triple away u don't think he went up there trying for it... And so u could luck up and hit for a cycle since there is no skill involved right? Get fukin real... It's easier to throw a no hitter than the cycle... Very cool thing to do once much less than twice in a season. Props

[milwaukee mike]

Nothing special. All a cycle is is a statistical oddity. No special skill required to do it other than luck.

guys that don't have the speed to get a triple can't do it, so it's not purely luck/statistical oddity

there's no special skill in winning the lottery, yet it is interesting if someone does it twice in a year

[lunchbawks]

randy wolf sucks!

[BuddyBear]

It's a statistical oddity any way you look at it.....take a stats course and you will arrive at that same conclusion.

And if it is not a statistical oddity, do me a favor and predict who will hit the next cycle. Right? Will give you 5000 betpoints if you are correct.

[ChalkyDog]

It's a statistical oddity any way you look at it.....take a stats course and you will arrive at that same conclusion.

And if it is not a statistical oddity, do me a favor and predict who will hit the next cycle. Right? Will give you 5000 betpoints if you are correct.

Fukk it, free points.

Paul Goldschmidt.

[El Nino]

Guy plays in AZ, might be a small blurb on Sports Center. If it was Jeter or Hamilton, they wouldn't be able to stop talking about it. Just sayin'

[BuddyBear]

Fukk it, free points.

Paul Goldschmidt.

LOL and now you see why it is a statistical oddity...because it is random. You have no idea who is going to hit the next cycle. It requires no special skill. When players get scouted, scouts don't say...this guy is a prospect and might hit for the cycle one day. All hitters get 1B, 2B, 3B, and HRs over the course of a season, but to get them all in one game is the oddity.

Anyone who thinks this is something special does not (1) understand baseball and (2) does not understand stats.

Cycles are basically good for trivia questions.

[paco]

He's still a bum and his team won't even make the playoffs

[ChalkyDog]

LOL and now you see why it is a statistical oddity...because it is random. You have no idea who is going to hit the next cycle. It requires no special skill. When players get scouted, scouts don't say...this guy is a prospect and might hit for the cycle one day. All hitters get 1B, 2B, 3B, and HRs over the course of a season, but to get them all in one game is the oddity.

Anyone who thinks this is something special does not (1) understand baseball and (2) does not understand stats.

Cycles are basically good for trivia questions.

Well, I was at the game where Hill hit his first cycle. I was at a game a few days later where Goldschmidt was a single away. And I watched a game today where Hill went for a cycle again, and Goldie was once again - one leg from hitting the cycle.

So - you pick a player at random, I will pick Paul Goldschmidt.

[lunchbawks]

He's still a bum and his team won't even make the playoffs

arizona will make the playoffs

1000 point bet?

[milwaukee mike]

LOL and now you see why it is a statistical oddity...because it is random. You have no idea who is going to hit the next cycle. It requires no special skill. When players get scouted, scouts don't say...this guy is a prospect and might hit for the cycle one day. All hitters get 1B, 2B, 3B, and HRs over the course of a season, but to get them all in one game is the oddity.

Anyone who thinks this is something special does not (1) understand baseball and (2) does not understand stats.

Cycles are basically good for trivia questions.

only 340 players in mlb hit a triple last season

miguel cabrera, nick swisher, alex rodriguez, etc etc didn't hit a triple all season

[BuddyBear]

only 340 players in mlb hit a triple last season

miguel cabrera, nick swisher, alex rodriguez, etc etc didn't hit a triple all season

Doesn't mean they can't....

You are missing the substance of the argument I am making. Show me 1 MLB player who has 1000+ AB without a triple? I'll save you the time for Prince Fielder, he has 10. David Ortiz has 16.

Last Brewers to hit for the cycle were Jody Garrett and George Kotaris and what special skills did they have?

[paranoyd androyd]

guys that don't have the speed to get a triple can't do it, so it's not purely luck/statistical oddity

there's no special skill in winning the lottery, yet it is interesting if someone does it twice in a year

i don't agree with buddybear's argument either, but that was a bad analogy there.

[BuddyBear]

i don't agree with buddybear's argument either, but that was a bad analogy there.

has nothing to do with speed or anything like that. It's just basically random. In most games, you see 1B, 2B, 3B, and HRs right....you just don't see them all done by the same player in the same game. Sure, we could probably make a list of players more likely than others to hit for a cycle (e.g. Austin Jackson for example vs. Prince Fielder) but at the end of the day, it's just luck and that list would have little predictive value. You can look at the course of baseball history and all the speedsters who have played and most have never hit for the cycle (e.g. Ricky Henderson, Muarry Wills, Vince Coleman, Willie McGee, etc...)

If I asked you who is going to hit the next cycle....nobody has any clue. And if you can't predict an event with any degree of accuracy, then it's just random. And I could ask you after every cycle who will hit the next cycle for the next 100 years and you would probably be wrong each time.

And yes, it is neat that a guy hit for the cycle twice in one season. No disagreement from me.

[HoulihansTX]

Hitting for the cycle is a statstical anomaly, that actually proves nothing but is very very cool

-Tim Kurkjian

[BuddyBear]

Hitting for the cycle is a statstical anomaly, that actually proves nothing but is very very cool

-Tim Kurkjian

Bingo....

[nikossf]

Kids got all kinds of talent. Just amazing athletically!!

[InTheDrink]

It's a statistical oddity any way you look at it.....take a stats course and you will arrive at that same conclusion.

And if it is not a statistical oddity, do me a favor and predict who will hit the next cycle. Right? Will give you 5000 betpoints if you are correct.

Jimmy Rollins

Dont fuk me buddy

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Hamiltons 4 hr game better than hitting for the cycle 3 times in a year.

[paco]

Cabrera's 5 walks is a bigger accomplishment then this non sense

[milwaukee mike]

i don't agree with buddybear's argument either, but that was a bad analogy there.

he said it was all luck, I said even if it is all luck it is still interesting when it happens twice in a short period

so I stand by that analogy

[govolz]

LOL and now you see why it is a statistical oddity...because it is random. You have no idea who is going to hit the next cycle. It requires no special skill. When players get scouted, scouts don't say...this guy is a prospect and might hit for the cycle one day. All hitters get 1B, 2B, 3B, and HRs over the course of a season, but to get them all in one game is the oddity.

Anyone who thinks this is something special does not (1) understand baseball and (2) does not understand stats.

Cycles are basically good for trivia questions.

So you're basis of it being a statistical oddity is because you can't pick the next person to do? Ok so pick the next person to throw a perfect game? It must be a staticstacal oddity too since you can't lol

[milwaukee mike]

LOL and now you see why it is a statistical oddity...because it is random. You have no idea who is going to hit the next cycle. It requires no special skill. When players get scouted, scouts don't say...this guy is a prospect and might hit for the cycle one day. All hitters get 1B, 2B, 3B, and HRs over the course of a season, but to get them all in one game is the oddity.

Anyone who thinks this is something special does not (1) understand baseball and (2) does not understand stats.

Cycles are basically good for trivia questions.

this is the part where you lose me and show too much arrogance, the "i'm right and you're crazy or stupid if you disagree" stuff

we were having a somewhat rational discussion and you threw in that, people can "understand baseball" and still have differing opinions as to whether or not hitting for the cycle twice in a 12 day stretch is a special event. it's pretty tough to just hit 2 triples within 12 days

[BuddyBear]

So you're basis of it being a statistical oddity is because you can't pick the next person to do? Ok so pick the next person to throw a perfect game? It must be a staticstacal oddity too since you can't lol

perfect game requires even more luck than a cycle

[BuddyBear]

this is the part where you lose me and show too much arrogance, the "i'm right and you're crazy or stupid if you disagree" stuff

we were having a somewhat rational discussion and you threw in that, people can "understand baseball" and still have differing opinions as to whether or not hitting for the cycle twice in a 12 day stretch is a special event. it's pretty tough to just hit 2 triples within 12 days

God help you if you think hitting for a cycle requires any sort of special baseball skill. Baseball 101.

[MatI]

It is a very special event.

But Buddy is right, it is a statistical anomaly and is a completely random event. Which makes it even cooler that it not only happened to the same person twice in a year, but in the space of a couple of weeks.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

It's a statistical oddity any way you look at it.....take a stats course and you will arrive at that same conclusion.

And if it is not a statistical oddity, do me a favor and predict who will hit the next cycle. Right? Will give you 5000 betpoints if you are correct.

Dexter Fowler

[mathdotcom]

Arencibia in his MLB debut hit 1B, 2B and 2 HR but no one gives a shit about that

How about Hamilton's 4-5 HR game earlier this season?

Like someone else said, the cycle is just a statistical oddity

[lunchbawks]

Dexter Fowler

keep dreaming

[govolz]

Well hell then perfect games, no hitters, 70 hr in a season, and inside the park home runs are all luck to?? That's like sayin Kobe lucked up and hit the game winner. He's not gonna do it alot but it takes skill to have the option to even hit that... Ur basis is because it doesn't happen a lot it's a statistical oddity? That's makes no sense. Over 300 players this year haven't even hit a triple yet... They don't even have the chance to hit for they cycle... When you come up to bat and you've hit 3 of 4 for the cycle trust me they're aiming for that fourth one...

[The Kraken]

Hitting 4 hr's in one game is even more of a statistical outlier than hitting for the cycle. Both could be said to be just luck. Gettimg 4 hits in a game, 3 as extra base hits is much more skill than luck. "luck" seems to favor the prepared. Being an outlier or statistical oddity in this sense has more to do woth being skilled and prepared than luck. Winning the lottery is lucky, no skill involved. Apro athlete getting 4 hits in a game is not the same as winning the lottery, even if the odds are the same.

[BuddyBear]

Well hell then perfect games, no hitters, 70 hr in a season, and inside the park home runs are all luck to?? That's like sayin Kobe lucked up and hit the game winner. He's not gonna do it alot but it takes skill to have the option to even hit that... Ur basis is because it doesn't happen a lot it's a statistical oddity? That's makes no sense. Over 300 players this year haven't even hit a triple yet... They don't even have the chance to hit for they cycle... When you come up to bat and you've hit 3 of 4 for the cycle trust me they're aiming for that fourth one...

I would say your best bet is to take an introductory stats course so that you can understand why it is a statistical anomaly rather than to continue to believe that hitting for a cycle requires some sort of special baseball skill.

I am not going to argue with you. Plenty of stuff on the internet available for you to consult.