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I like to rub cream on my penis from time to time, just not whie I'm peeing. And yes, it's BS that anyone even knows about a false test. Under the policy set forth by MLB, none of this should have come out until AFTER Braun lost his appeal.Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
Pass whatever you are smoking if you think Andrew McCutchen is anywhere in the same ballpark as Ryan Braun. You must not watch baseball very closely if you believe what you just said. Sure, AM is a nice little player on a very weak team, but Ryan Braun is an elite MLB player, probably in the Top 5 ball players in all of MLB. He has by far a better career average than AM, more power, more speed, better baserunning skills, etc....
Literally, the Pirates could offer their whole team for Braun and Milw would not even think about it.
Early in 2010 I want to say, Hoffman's last year. In fact, the Brewers won like 20-2 or something like that on a Tuesday and then lost Wed and Thur. It turned out, Hoffman blew the saves on Wed and Thur. That was the last time in Milw. There have been a few series they've won in Pitt though.
Not here to argue.....We will all believe what we want to believe. I couldn't care less what Braun uses or doesn't use. Just think the Pirates are going to take 2 of 3 and maybe sweep the Brewers. Pittsburgh has more talent and is better than the Brewers this year. Pitching keeps you in EVERY game and Pittsburgh has pitching this year.
come on tony it's no fun if we don't argue
even with the brewers' large amount of injuries, they are way more talented than pittsburgh. how many all-stars on pitt? i doubt the average person could name 2 guys on that team
Is Barry Bonds still there? How bout Bobby Bonilla?come on tony it's no fun if we don't argue
even with the brewers' large amount of injuries, they are way more talented than pittsburgh. how many all-stars on pitt? i doubt the average person could name 2 guys on that team
somewhere around 95%
Dude. How much baseball do you watch?
Back to even. GL on Sunday.
There are MLB fans that can't name 2 Brewers!come on tony it's no fun if we don't argue
even with the brewers' large amount of injuries, they are way more talented than pittsburgh. how many all-stars on pitt? i doubt the average person could name 2 guys on that team
Gorman Thomas and Cecil Cooper...... Do those count?
Enough to know that Braun had 33 stolen bases last year (as a power hitter no less with Fielder batting behind him) while McCutchen had 23. Just a better player all around in almost every aspect of the game. Will give AM slight edge on defense.
Last edited by BuddyBear; 06-03-12 at 03:38 PM.
Milwaukee fans are among the most loyal and knowledgeable fans in all of baseball. The Brewers rank very high in attendance every year and for a small market ball club that plays in a city of around 600,000 that endured more than a decade and a half of very bad clubs, that is saying something.
Look at Pitt and Cleveland if you want a comparison.
Last edited by BuddyBear; 06-03-12 at 04:13 PM.
trinity you got lucky there
braun just missed a 3 run hr
Pirates take 2 of 3 like I thought they would. Just better talent this year in my opinion. If the bats start coming around Pirates are going to be tough to beat this year.
come on hilltop the pirates don't have better talent no matter how many times you say it. the only teams with a lower payroll than pittsburgh are san diego, houston, oakland, and kansas city.
that was a replacement pitcher for the brewers against one of the pirates' best starters, and the brewers still almost won
coming in here saying "i told you so" is really a low class move, that game could've gone either way and the pirates didn't face either of the 2 best brewers pitchers in the series (grienke/gallardo)
I don't think I would compare Pittsburgh's talent pool to anyone until they can finish a season above .500. Got nothing against Pittsburgh as they have been fun to pound the last few years.
That 2008 Milwaukee BrewerWild Card team was a fun bunch to watch.......
CC Sabathia didn’t speak to his agent for the last two weeks of the 2008 season. Though the agent pleaded with his client to consider the risks of pitching on short rest with free-agent millions on the line, Sabathia tired of hearing the same message. So, the pitcher stopped answering his phone, and went on with his business of pitching the Brewers to a wild-card berth in the playoffs.
“I just stopped wanting to hear it,” Sabathia said.
2008, when Sabathia willed them into the postseason. After joining the Brewers via a trade, Sabathia went 11-2 with a 1.65 ERA. He made his final four starts — including Game 2 of the National League Division Series — on three days’ rest.
With the Yankees, he’s proven to be one of the best big money signings of the free-agent era, though he admits he’s never been as locked as he was with the Brewers.
“He put us on his back and carried us into the postseason,” Brewers general manager Doug Melvin said. “He’s a class act, he performed at a time that we needed it, and I said at the time when he helped us win, it was one of the most unselfish performances that he gave us as a player to a team.”
Right away, Sabathia proved to be a perfect fit.
The Brewers’ clubhouse wasn’t much different from the one he was leaving with the Indians. Just like the ’07 Indians, the ’08 Brewers watched a talented core of homegrown talent blossom at the same time. But Melvin knew that stars such as Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun and Ben Sheets were going to need help.
Enter Sabathia, the free agent to be that the Indians knew they had little chance of signing.
“We were all young, we were all cool,” Fielder said. “We didn’t have egos or anything. We were happy to have him because we knew that we needed him. With his personality, mixed in with the personality of the other guys on the team, it was a no-brainer.”
Marc Carig/The Star-Ledger(New Jersey)
yeah 2008 and 2011 the brewers' 2 chances to win the world series.
2008 screwed up by that drunk dale sveum deciding to pitch suppan instead of gallardo.
2011 screwed up by that imbecile roenicke deciding to pitch marcum instead of gallardo.
Oh I don't know about that. The Cards have owned Gallardo, including ripping him in his lone start this year. While I agree Marcum had no business pitching, I'm not sure Gallardo would have fared much better.
Mike, I am not saying I told you so. And YES the Pirates do have better talent THIS year than the Brewers. The Pirates have to start somewhere and that start was the first half of last year. This year you will see this team compete into Sept. Every team, no matter how bad they have been, have to start their comeback somewhere. The Pirates started that comeback last year but were too young to realize they had to do it for the whole season. This is a franchise with a very rich tradition and sooner or later they will win another WS. I honestly think they have the talent to win a WS in the next 3 years. Don't be fooled by the last 19 years, this team is good!
fair enough tony
but I don't think the pirates have the fan support to start spending $100 million like they need to
I do like rooting for the old blue collar cities like milwaukee, pittsburgh, cleveland, etc
Easiest but not easy for brews, 1-2 so far?
^^^
pitching wasn't lined up right
no greinke/gallardo yet
still go 6-3 imho but I llst a ton on that game today ugh
Yup, I've been on them during this run,
can't make this bet due to braun/lucroy injuries. also, losing prince in the offseason = no firepower in this offense...
The Brewers lineup certainly isnt what it was before, and with Braun and Lucroy injured is down a bit, but to say there is "no firepower" in this offense is a bit of a stretch. Im not a huge Hart fan, and Weeks isnt exactly setting the world afire, but those guys both can hit homeruns. I would expect them to go 5-1 in the remaining 6 home games here.
Mike, they won't spend 100 million. The Pirates window is open for probably 3-5 years and if they don't succeed in the time frame then they are back to square one. The Brewers are in the same boat (which is why they lost Fielder) Small market teams only have a few years of opportunity and this will continue to be the problem until MLB changes things. I have been a Pirate fan all my life and very fortunate to remember the last few WS they won and it sucks that a whole generation of fans look at the Pirates as losers. I used to like the Brewers until they joined the NL Central and used the Pirates as their bitches for the last 5 years. lol BOL the rest of they way Mike. Talk to you after the All-Star break when the Pirates visit again July 13-15. Hell, I may even go to that wknd series at Miller Park.fair enough tony
but I don't think the pirates have the fan support to start spending $100 million like they need to
I do like rooting for the old blue collar cities like milwaukee, pittsburgh, cleveland, etc
Last edited by HilltopTony; 06-04-12 at 05:39 AM.
Mike, you're right about the fans. They come out because it's a nice way to spend a Summer night in the Burgh and PNC park is a fantastic park. Pittsburgh fans will never support the Pirates throughout the week. It's strictly a weekend event. Pittsburgh fans will run through a wall to support the Steelers though.
yeah the brewers are small market but they are spending around $100 million/year
they got sabathia and greinke, not too many other small market teams could do that
the problem with fielder and sabathia is that braun's contract gets ridiculous after the next few years so they couldn't pay those guys for 6 years, they could've easily done 4 yrs $100 million for either though.
even at $100 million it's hard to spend $45 of that on 2 guys
3-0 Cubs over Brewers
6-2 Pirates leading Reds
mike i wish you never started this thread. brewers blow.
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