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Derek Jeter haters? I can't hear you
2 for 5 last night, 2 runs scored, 3 RBI
2012 numbers to date.
15 for 41 (.366) On Base Percentage of .395, Slugging Percentage of .610 OPS 1.005
2 Dingers, 6 extra base hits, don't give me that "but he's got limited range at short" crap, he still makes every play to him, and doesn't make fielding mistakes.
you do know its mid-april right?
^
Yes, I can read a calendar, point is, I'm tired of hearing 'shit bum is washed up'
Jeter is awesome.
Anyone who talks shit about him can suck a dikk.
glad to see him back to his stylish best, but you could easily make a case for him being one of the most ineffective defensive shortstops in the game
His 5 Gold Gloves says otherwise.Originally Posted by taxe91
unreal
he fooled me
way he is going he might make it to 4000 hits
JJ
If he makes it to 4,000 hits he must then be regarded as the greatest shortstop ever.
YES!!!
You never know
gold gloves are a popularity contest and nothing more.
jeter hasnt posted a positive UZR/150 since 2009. review his recent defensive mediocrity for yourself:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...26&position=SS
Mediocre at best range, nobody debates this, however, there is more than RF and ZR.
He makes every play at him, he's better than the flashy shortstop that covers 28 percent more ground, but boots 34 percent more balls, or the flashy shortstop with the noodle arm throwing deep in the hole.
Jeter never botches the 4-6-3 or 6-4-3, turns that DP better than almost all, knows where to position himself for the cutoff, never makes a bad cutoff throw to the plate...........
who hates on derek jeter?? Seriously. wow! Obviously people who dont know too much about baseball
I don't think it's that big of a deal for a shortstop age 36 (2010) to have below average range.
I'm a big Yankee fan, and I get some good laughs making fun of Jeter's range... But let's not forget that he's 38 years old. People who argue he isn't an all time great shortstop because of his range... Go watch some film of Jeter in his prime, or even in his early/mid 30s. Let's not forget that Jeter has been in the majors since 1995.
Why are his twink pants so tight?
Love jeter... dude is reliable as my chevy truck... captain clutch... imagine being part of his crew the kind of cheeks you get on a nightly basis
Jeter is both overrated by the casual fan and underrated by SABRtards (People who consider themselves astute baseball fans via statistical understanding, but don't understand why ZIPS regressing every BABIP is completely ******* retarded).
His defense is trash. He'll be much better than his ZIPS (for the reason stated above) and his defense is fine considering he's one of the best offensive SSs to ever play the game.
He'll never even touch Honus Wagner's level though. Maybe if he plays till Julio Franco age.
if only yankee fans could say the same for arod
Don't really think people hate on Derek Jeter much, most Yankee haters direct it at A-Rod.....
I grew up watching Jeter dominate in the playoffs for my favorite team and was happy to see him hit 3000 last season.....Since the All Star Break last season he has put up some damn good numbers,but I wonder what happens in a few years when he simply can't play SS anymore due to age......I'm a big Nunez fan but he's gotta learn the position better
Im so happy the Yankees have gone away from the Roger Clemens, Jason Giambi, Randy Johnson meatheads......Now just going for guys through their system and of course the free agents/trades that present value.....Not just throwing retarded money all over the place anymore
Johnson and Clemens are two of the best pitchers to ever play (Clemens being the GOAT and Johnson merely being a top 3 lefty). They both have put up seasons that Hallagay would have wet dreams to throw.
Nash, you taking Suns today?
Batum, Aldridge and Felton are out for Port
The guy looks like he is in his friggin' prime at age 37.
Guy is a true professional.
wow its april 16 and the dude played like 8 games in april so far ... wait till all star break .. if hes still putting up numbers by then ... okay fine ...
this is like saying omfg look at how bad pujols is hes batting only 200 ... cmon dude
Lotta love for Jeter in this thread and Im def a fan. But there is tons of hate out there on him. Especially after his most recent contract.
Jeter with a lead off homer, opposite field yet.
Unbelievable
He'll wear down, I'm middle of the road with jeter. 3 hrs by tax day is nice for him
2 HRs within about what 5 or 6 pitches. Sad Twinkies pitcher.
obviously juicing
I'd still take close to a dozen ss's before I'd take jeter on my team this year but I love to root the old guys on towards longevity
He cannot hit right handed pitching
You don't know what you are talking about.
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I Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ vs RHP as RHB 2293 8399 7433 2268 354 49 163 897 263 69 721 1294 .305 .374 .432 .806 3209 178 123 79 43 18 140 .350 94 vs LHP as RHB 1107 2800 2476 835 142 16 79 305 76 23 275 362 .337 .410 .503 .913 1246 68 35 5 9 19 37 .370 119 vs LH Starter 700 699 3232 2852 511 921 146 15 86 380 74 26 307 453 .323 .396 .475 .871 1355 77 46 14 13 9 46 .359 109 vs RH Starter 1735 1725 7967 7057 1263 2182 350 50 156 822 265 66 689 1203 .309 .378 .439 .817 3100 169 112 70 39 28 131 .353 96
I mean the last 3 years he can't hit them anymore
reakdown AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS vs. Left 538 115 190 31 2 17 66 64 5 70 19 5 .353 .425 .513 .938 vs. Right 1305 187 363 50 6 17 128 117 15 207 45 11 .278 .343
last 3 years is different did not say he couldn't hit righties in his prime, plus he has more lineup protection against righties
its mid-april.
honestly don't give a **** what he does in mid-april. as the season wears on lets see how he fairs.
Here's the short stops I'd take over Jeter.
Tulo
Here's the list of SS's I put in Jeter's class but would have to think long and hard before I took over Jeter.
Reyes, but you know he'll go down with yet another hammy pull, so what good is he when he's sitting on the bench for 30 games nursing the hammy.
Han-Ram doesn't play SS anymore
As-Cab is a solid SS
Castro is good too
Infante and Desmond fly under the radar but have game too.
Andrus is crap so far in April, but is still a good SS
Peralta is inconsistent
So back your post up, you said there a dozen (OK close to a dozen) name 12 shortstops you'd take right now over Jeter.
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