1. 02-24-12 05:13 PM #36
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    Doesnt matter that he's been found innocent. History will always remember this episode and label him a dubious character at best...
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  2. 02-24-12 05:13 PM #37
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    My guess is Braun gets tested like 50 times this year.

    If his stats drop, he'll be crucified.
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    this coming from a future lawyer?

    are you for real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    Sorry Hurls,

    Braun could have come out today and said that the test results were just false, not his, just wrong. He didn't say that. Instead, he said that he is innocent because the guy kept the sample for 44 hours instead of 24 hours.

    Sorry, that is Braun hanging himself. He is admitting he took steroids but that it doesn't count because the guy kept the sample too long.
    Don't get me wrong something is off about this whole story for sure and I think it will all come out. The only thing is I dont think the MLB would come out and say they screwed up no matter what because the integrity of this system is so important, the game of baseball has been forever changed by the steroid era so if they admitt that the whole time the chain of custody was lax at best Palmeiro would be back waving his finger saying he got screwed.
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  5. 02-24-12 05:15 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by baskets View Post
    this coming from a future lawyer?

    are you for real?
    Are you suggesting that I should buy Braun's innocence because I could possibly need to fight for my future clients based on technicalities such as this one?
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  6. 02-24-12 05:16 PM #41
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    Is testing in MLB random?? Like in aussie rules where they can wake u up at 4am to test you if they want (which they do)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    My guess is Braun gets tested like 50 times this year.

    If his stats drop, he'll be crucified.
    What about the fact that he didnt gain anything on his running times, hitting power, or all the other stats that he talked about? That was something that I think didn't look good for MLB.
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    Two last questions, Who the hell puts someone else's piss on their desk for two days(I can only imagine the other disgusting things in that guys house). Also if Braun really had this never before heard about level of Testosterone in his system wouldn't he have got bigger than he was? I mean Bonds face looked like a chipmunk that got it wisdom teeth out, Braun didnt change much imo.
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  9. 02-24-12 05:20 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    i never said he raped that little slut but you don't think he ripped her a new one? c'mon man, unless you are a porn star getting paid, even sluts don't like to go backdoor.
    He put his chocolate in her peanut butter.
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    Isn't this the same reason everyone hates Barry Bonds, because both he and Braun each lied about using drugs and both failed drug tests?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    Are you suggesting that I should buy Braun's innocence because I could possibly need to fight for my future clients based on technicalities such as this one?
    I'm suggesting lawyers are scum of the earth. But if you will be putting **** in the *** U .... then I will be your biggest fan.

    Anyways, the point is you're a future lawyer and you're complaining about honesty, righteousness and what is right...
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  12. 02-24-12 06:08 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by baskets View Post
    I'm suggesting lawyers are scum of the earth. But if you will be putting **** in the *** U .... then I will be your biggest fan.

    Anyways, the point is you're a future lawyer and you're complaining about honesty, righteousness and what is right...

    Most lawyers don't sell out until they get big money thrown at them. I still have principals as of now.
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  13. 02-24-12 07:42 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    Most lawyers don't sell out until they get big money thrown at them. I still have principals as of now.
    most lawyers like a good argument, and you seem to have that down
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    Triple sealed. No chance of it arriving opened and them not knowing about it.

    Braun's only defense was 44 hours in possession instead of the mandated 24 hours or less.

    I would have respected Braun a lot more today if he had said, "I'm a lucky bastard.'

    He chose the 'I'm a victim wahhhhhhhhhhh' route.
    "Sources told Munson that the collector left Braun's sample on a desk in a Tupperware container and left it there for two days. "

    I'm so "glad" that potentially one of these seals is a tupperware container.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    most lawyers like a good argument, and you seem to have that down
    Hell, my mom told me when I was 12 that I would make a good lawyer and I don't think she meant it as a compliment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaudius View Post
    "Sources told Munson that the collector left Braun's sample on a desk in a Tupperware container and left it there for two days. "

    I'm so "glad" that potentially one of these seals is a tupperware container.
    I've read too much shit on this subject now.

    I've read that the 3 seals were the seal on the box, the seal on the bag, and then the seal on the actual container.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    Hell, my mom told me when I was 12 that I would make a good lawyer and I don't think she meant it as a compliment.
    If you're not in law school yet, seriously, don't go, spent an hour or two on jdunderground.com and thank me later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaudius View Post
    If you're not in law school yet, seriously, don't go, spent an hour or two on jdunderground.com and thank me later.
    I know all of the problems people are facing out of school. I also know that if you are ranked highly in your class you can still make a very good living and get a very good job

    The goal is a biglaw. Anything less sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Doesnt matter that he's been found innocent. History will always remember this episode and label him a dubious character at best...
    Another example of how its now turned to guilty until proven innocent now in this country
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    I know all of the problems people are facing out of school. I also know that if you are ranked highly in your class you can still make a very good living and get a very good job

    The goal is a biglaw. Anything less sucks.
    Even if you make BigLaw your life sucks, unless you're going for free or are independently wealthy its a mistake any way you slice it. Unless you plan on going to Harvard, Yale or Stanford your chances of BigLaw are so small anyway that you're basically taking a shot at at a +1000 hitting.
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  21. 02-24-12 10:17 PM #56
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    He is not guilty, and not a scumbag. He is a class act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericthegangster View Post
    He is not guilty, and not a scumbag. He is a class act.
    Agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaudius View Post
    Even if you make BigLaw your life sucks, unless you're going for free or are independently wealthy its a mistake any way you slice it. Unless you plan on going to Harvard, Yale or Stanford your chances of BigLaw are so small anyway that you're basically taking a shot at at a +1000 hitting.
    46% get big law at Northwestern....

    46% /=/ +1000 lol

    And law school is free for me. I have great parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    And law school is free for me. I have great parents.
    Good for you, you entitled ****. Have fun working as a paralegal for minimum wage *if* you finish your law degree. There are an abundance of lawyers. Kids graduating top of their class are fighting for 40k per year jobs.

    Law school - Great choice.... not
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericthegangster View Post
    Good for you, you entitled ****. Have fun working as a paralegal for minimum wage *if* you finish your law degree. There are an abundance of lawyers. Kids graduating top of their class are fighting for 40k per year jobs.

    Law school - Great choice.... not
    You're a complete moron. You should probably do some research before you start talking. Kids graduating top of their class at good schools are landing great jobs.

    Kids graduating from bad law schools or lowly ranked or both are probably screwed, yes. I wouldn't go to law school if I thought I would do poorly. By the way, what do you do?
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    Hilarious how you guys needed this incident to say Braun is a scumbag. Where you been?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    Kids graduating from bad law schools or lowly ranked or both are probably screwed, yes. I wouldn't go to law school if I thought I would do poorly. By the way, what do you do?
    I'm a software engineer but I have several friends who are new lawyers and wish they never buried themselves with student loan debt from law school. Some who went to UW-Madison and some who went to Marquette. One finished 3rd in his class at UW-Madison and became a public defender.. I think he makes roughly 40k per year but if he does it long enough his student loans go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericthegangster View Post
    I'm a software engineer but I have several friends who are new lawyers and wish they never buried themselves with student loan debt from law school. Some who went to UW-Madison and some who went to Marquette. One finished 3rd in his class at UW-Madison and became a public defender.. I think he makes roughly 40k per year but if he does it long enough his student loans go away.
    Marquette is barely top 100. It is what we call a TTT (Third tier toilet).

    You'd be better off burning your money than attending a school like Marquette.

    As for the UW-Madison grad, maybe he is an idiot and doesn't interview well? It is a decent school but you still have to make connections and get a good job.

    Your few pointless examples doesn't really match hours and hours and hours of research.
    http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticl...162&slreturn=1

    44% of Northwestern grads end up at a top 250 law firm. If you end up at a top 250 law firm, you will be making 6 figures pretty soon into your career. Not too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    Marquette is barely top 100. It is what we call a TTT (Third tier toilet).

    You'd be better off burning your money than attending a school like Marquette.

    As for the UW-Madison grad, maybe he is an idiot and doesn't interview well? It is a decent school but you still have to make connections and get a good job.

    Your few pointless examples doesn't really match hours and hours and hours of research.
    http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticl...162&slreturn=1

    44% of Northwestern grads end up at a top 250 law firm. If you end up at a top 250 law firm, you will be making 6 figures pretty soon into your career. Not too bad.
    Hey, best of luck to you pal.

    What year of law school are you in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericthegangster View Post
    Hey, best of luck to you pal.

    What year of law school are you in?
    I'm entering in August. Have a lot of offers on the table and trying to pick the best one for me. Although I can't answer any of them until Northwestern takes me off hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    I'm entering in August. Have a lot of offers on the table and trying to pick the best one for me. Although I can't answer any of them until Northwestern takes me off hold.
    Ha. Talk to me after you've completed year #1 and I will

    You're pretty cocky for a guy who hasn't even sat through his first lecture. How did you do on your LSAT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericthegangster View Post
    Ha. Talk to me after you've completed year #1 and I will

    You're pretty cocky for a guy who hasn't even sat through his first lecture. How did you do on your LSAT?
    171. How well I do in law school will have nothing to do with my ability. I am a lazy fukk and if I give full effort I know I'll succeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    but because espn wants to cover their own butts, they continue down this b.s. path to convince everyone that braun cheated.

    the same espn that is dismantling the big east because they didn't agree to the tv contract.

    and yet 90% of the population continues to believe braun cheated because espn and some "mlb representatives off the record" say that the test couldn't have been corrupted.
    well guess what, after being presented evidence, a fair unbiased person decided that it was corrupted.

    so quit backtracking and saying it was only a technicality espn.
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    Mike...You are usually on point but your hometown bias is showing.
    Braun should thank his lucky stars that the FedEx driver coudn't make
    the proper delivery.

    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post

    171. How well I do in law school will have nothing to do with my ability. I am a lazy fukk and if I give full effort I know I'll succeed.
    Call your bluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericthegangster View Post
    Call your bluff.
    We will see. I just know that if I try I won't fail. Never really have at anything academic related. Had a 3.0 in undergrad despite never going to class. Hopefully I'll stay motivated.
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