1. 12-19-11 10:17 PM #1
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    Yu Darvish a Ranger

    Commissioner's Office has now confirmed that Texas Rangers have won the bidding on Yu Darvish at $51.7m...now have 30 days to negotiate.

    Who the hell is this guy?
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  2. 12-19-11 10:19 PM #2
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    he's not a ranger yet
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  3. 12-19-11 10:19 PM #3
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    typical texas ignorance

    going to end up costing them well over 100 mill between the contract and bid fee

    coulda just kept a proven commodity in cj wilson

    instead they pay a fortune for hideki irabuII

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  4. 12-19-11 10:20 PM #4
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    He is gonna suck after a year or two just like every other pitcher from his homeland.
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  5. 12-19-11 10:20 PM #5
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    Weren't the Rangers bankrupt or something last season?
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    Heard of him but don't know much about him. Dominated the Japan league but who cares. Thought the red sox were going to post up on him but we know what happened the last time they did that.

    Stupid to post up on a guy who is totally unproven
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    Darvish a 2-time all star, 2-time MVP, 2-time Gold Glove winner..93-38 with ERA of 1.99 over 7 seasons...great hip rotation and whip arm spd
    Darvish has stuff to be true #1...Hollywood persona...has posed nude in women's magaiznes going thru very public divorce with actress wife
    TX has 30-days to sign Darvish...rotation will look like: Darvish, Holland, Feliz, Harrison, Lewis...with Ogando to bullpen w/Adams/Nathan
    Darvish becomes highest financial risk....highest baseball reward in baseball history

    All coming from ESPN's Bowden
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  8. 12-19-11 10:23 PM #8
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    I'm guessing he'll be good for the length of a 4 or 5 year contract. CJ Wilson good.

    As a Jays fan this makes me sad. Not just that we didn't get him, but that it would have been the signal that the ownership was opening up their wallets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bcatswin View Post
    Commissioner's Office has now confirmed that Texas Rangers have won the bidding on Yu Darvish at $51.7m...now have 30 days to negotiate.

    Who the hell is this guy?
    That's $50 Million to talk to him....probably another $50-70 million to sign him. The Red Sox paid around the same amount to talk to Dice-K and around another $60 million to sign him. The "talk" money goes to the Japanese Club he was signed with...it's straight cash homie...in their pockets. With a few exceptions, the Japanese players have been over-hyped, and over-paid
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    Irabu? Or Ichiro?
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    They don't pay the post up if they don't sign him correct?

    Could they just be blocking someone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    They don't pay the post up if they don't sign him correct?

    Could they just be blocking someone else?
    Yes and yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    They don't pay the post up if they don't sign him correct?

    Could they just be blocking someone else?
    highly doubt they would sabotage the kids career to block somebody else

    its texas or back to japan

    he cant sign with someone else
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  14. 12-19-11 10:30 PM #14
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    They say his skill set is around AJ Burnett pre injuries and Josh Beckett. This isn't another Irabu.
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    jap pitchers don't do well in the long run
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  16. 12-19-11 10:33 PM #16
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    Again, where did the Rangers get this money from all of a sudden? Weren't they on the verge of bankruptcy last season?
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    Rangers could have had Prince Fielder for similar overall price (posting fee + salary)...now looks like Cubs, Mariners or Mystery team WSH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benjy View Post
    Irabu? Or Ichiro?
    Hideki Irabu was nicknamed the "Japanese Nolan Ryan" because he supposedly threw 98, but came to the US and flamed out....George Steinbrenner called him a "fat toad" after he tubed as a Yankee. Japanese pitchers are finesse pitchers for the most part....flamethrowers are their style. Not sure throwing $120 Million at him is smart when you could of given it to a known commodity in CJ Wilson
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  19. 12-19-11 10:47 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post

    highly doubt they would sabotage the kids career to block somebody else

    its texas or back to japan

    he cant sign with someone else
    Just for one year right?

    As for fielder the posting fee doesn't go toward the lux tax....though I don't now where Texas falls with payroll...nah prob not an issue I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    Just for one year right?

    As for fielder the posting fee doesn't go toward the lux tax....though I don't now where Texas falls with payroll...nah prob not an issue I guess.
    If I recall correctly: posting fee does not count toward luxury tax. Posting is weird too, if he doesn't sign and goes back to Japan he wouldn't be posting again next year. I believe it's the year after.

    He's making 6M+ salary in Japan, not including endorsements. Dude's not going to settle for peanuts, no matter how badly he wants to play here.
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    He'll probably get 6 years $82 million.
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    3 years 5 million and not a penny more
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  23. 12-20-11 12:36 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    Again, where did the Rangers get this money from all of a sudden? Weren't they on the verge of bankruptcy last season?
    New ownership group bought in last year, and a new major TV deal starting this year.
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  24. 12-20-11 12:39 AM #24
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    Do Asian imports ever make it in the Majors? Trying to think of some, bar Matsui.
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  25. 12-20-11 12:55 AM #25
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    Was kinda choked my Jays didn't get the rights but on second thought may be a huge waste of money. Just ask the Sox about Dice K
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    as a DIE HARD jays fan this was somewhat of a heart breaker but relief at the same time. he could make or break...
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    Great. Maybe they can lose another world series next year!
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    He's Japans' best pitcher. He's actually got a pretty good stuff. At the international level he's probably one of the best out there. But at the MLB level who really knows. You can think of him as the Greg Maddux of Japan but with actually much better velocity. Has one of the best commands with the baseball. I would honestly say if any japanese player is worth the risk I would say Yu Darvish has the best chance to be a player in the MLB.I don't know if it's worth spending that much money but he's probably going to be the best prospect coming out of japan, ever. Performing at MLB level is a different story. He's shown he's lights out in the international level.. We'll have to see at the MLB level.
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    Do they drug test in Japan

    This is my guess as to why they never pan out and end up hurt...
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    He's half Japanese half Iranian. Kinda like Ichiro meets the Iron Sheik
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    He isn't built anything like your average Japanese pitcher. Comparisons to Dice-K are completely ridiculous. Kid has potential to be great.
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    Wonder if he shaves that thing before he gets over here
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    Anything is better than watching CJ Wilson melt like butter in the playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Anything is better than watching CJ Wilson melt like butter in the playoffs.
    Damn straight.

    Nolan Ryan was done with CJ. Never even seriously considered bringing him back. I have a ton of faith in Nolan. If he believes that Darvish is the real deal........then I'm 100% on board.
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    Here's an interesting article on Yarvish....Personally I think $120 million for a Japanese pitcher, $50 million plus the $70 million he's seeking is risky for the Rangers. I think the Red Sox and Yankees are gun shy after being burned before...Darvish is 6' 5" so he's definitely a more imposing figure on the mound.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
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