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Very nice rebound by the dogs yesterday.
I will post the dog from the Phillies/Blue Jays game once I see Pinnacle post it.
Code:951 Giants +126 Yesterday: 8-8 +4.23 953 Phillies +212 July 2006: 8-8 +4.23 955 Mets +132 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 957 Orioles +110 YTD: 176-219 +16.70 959 Devil Rays +108 962 Marlins +100 964 Reds +120 966 Pirates +179 967 Brewers +251 969 Royals +190 972 Cubs +106 973 Dodgers +138 975 Rockies +110 977 D-Backs +125 979 Astros +162
Yesterday was pretty much a even one. I think if you played the dogs closer to game time, the outcome would of been plus money.
I will post the dog of the Pirates/Mets game once I see Pinnacle post it.
Code:902 Brewers +108 Yesterday: 6-9 -0.59 904 Nationals +106 July 2006: 14-17 +3.64 905 Cardinals +102 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 907 Pirates +164 YTD: 182-228 +16.11 909 Cubs +174 911 Giants +105 913 D-Backs +148 916 Indians +130 917 Orioles +141 920 Devil Rays +152 922 Rangers -102 924 Royals +262 926 Athletics +106 927 Angels +111
Dogs went nuts today
i can't wait to see looker update todays numbers. that should be interesting, even with him using the overnite numbers.
10-4 +8.23 units
OR
9-4 +6.59 units (The Pirates/Mets line was taken OTB twice, so I don't think the +164 played with Maine starting over Oliver)
Yesterday was very nice for the dogs. Hitting 10 out of 14 games.
I used the +164 for the Pirates as I seen simular lines around game time for the Pirates, even with the pitcher change.
Code:951 Marlins +100 Yesterday: 10-4 +8.23 953 Pirates +192 July 2006: 24-21 +11.87 955 Cubs +125 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 958 Brewers +121 YTD: 192-232 +24.34 959 Padres +125 962 Braves +135 964 Rockies +109 965 D-Backs +126 967 Angels +119 969 Orioles +170 972 Devil Rays +186 974 Athletics +100 976 Indians -103 978 Rangers +166 980 Royals +147
Very interesting, since I tend to bet almost all 'dogs, if they're playing halfway decently.
Did real well with KC in June since their big losing streak ended, and Florida also.
It usually takes the "market" a while to catch up to teams like that, and it can sometimes be a week or 10 days before the line starts to reflect their improved play.
Plus, you sometimes get them at home, vs. a "better" team that's using a mediocre pitcher, and you can still sometimes get them at +1.60 or even more.
Yesterday was pretty much a even day, but we know betting dogs on a even day will bring plus units. Small, but still a gain.
Code:902 Phillies +117 Yesterday: 7-8 +0.82 903 Marlins +135 July 2006: 31-29 +12.69 905 Pirates +186 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 907 Cardinals +118 YTD: 199-240 +25.16 909 Reds +100 911 Cubs +210 913 Giants +104 915 D-Backs +162 918 Athletics +130 920 Indians +112 922 Devil Rays +105 923 Orioles +154 925 Blue Jays +106 928 Royals +169 929 Angels +118
Onlooker I know of someone else who is doing this as well here is there record.
Record 149-190 (43.95%)
+12.22 Units
Bankroll $1244.40 (+$244.40)
ALT RUNLINE 39-71 +16.90 Units
So it would appear you have been doing this longer but he is also tracking all alt runlines on dogs as well and that to is slightly
better than breakeven so far.
The beauty of gaining this knowledge, if it will hold up over a substantial sample size, is it is perfect for meeting rollovers on bonuses.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks doc, that alt runline record isn't really all that bad. It's good to see some figures on that.
Dogs took a hit yesterday. Only hitting on 5 out of 15 games.
Code:951 Marlins +121 Yesterday: 5-10 -2.63 953 Padres +120 July 2006: 36-39 +10.06 955 Pirates +167 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 957 Reds +170 YTD: 204-250 +22.53 959 Cubs +154 961 Cardinals +116 963 Giants +113 965 Yankees +104 968 Devil Rays +144 969 Oriloes +186 972 Royals +134 974 Athletics +103
Yesterday ended up being a losing one for the dogs.
I will post the dog from the Marlins/Nationals game once I see Pinnacle post it.
Code:901 Padres -104 Yesterday: 5-7 -1.26 903 Pirates +152 July 2006: 41-46 +8.80 906 Mets +120 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 907 Reds +128 YTD: 209-257 +21.27 909 Cardinals +112 912 Brewers +135 913 D-Backs +123 916 Dodgers -101 917 Orioles +156 920 Devil Rays +129 921 Twins +111 924 Royals +180 925 Red Sox +127 927 Angels +105 930 Mariners +133
i believe the nats were a -136 favorite when it opened at pinny onlooker.
Originally Posted by onlòóker
I meant the Marlins/Mets game. Looks like its Lima Time again in New York.
The Nationals I dont think opened that high today. They are currently -105. It was -104 last night before I went to bed.
Onlooker, are you playing these or just tracking them?
Just tracking them. Yes I play a few, but thats based on what I capped. Im just wanting to see what the end result will be. I wish I would of started from the beginning of the season. I will probably do this every year, maybe in the different sports as well.
I did state in the first post of this thread that I will not be playing each game, so people were advised.
Gotcha man. I have been looking at this for a while now as a great way to bust out bonuses.... The only concern I have is the lines should get sharper as the year progresses and the faves may catch up in a big way.
nice work man.
Thanks doc.
Yesterday the dogs made it a good day. Hitting 9 out of 15 games and racking in a nice profit.
I will post the the Marlins/Mets double header dogs once I see Pinnacle post them.
Going to be a interesting day with a lot of homedogs, and a few chalk dogs.Code:951 G1 Marlins -103 Yesterday: 9-6 +5.27 953 Giants +131 July 2006: 50-52 +14.07 955 Cardinals +131 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 957 Cubs +159 YTD: 218-263 +26.54 960 Nationals +125 961 Pirates +146 963 Reds +124 965 D-Backs -104 968 White Sox -102 969 Orioles -103 972 Royals +141 974 Devil Rays -101 976 Rangers +165 978 Athletics +112 980 Mariners +108 981 G2 Marlins +131
Hey man I don't know how interested you are in this, but here is my ALT RUN LINE record tracking them blindly for the last couple of weeks....
ALT RUNLINE 52-98 +17.70 Units (34.67%)
Thanks for the update doc because I am really interested in how those have been doing.
Thanks for that alternate runline update, doc.
Yesterday proved to be to much for the dogs, as the chalk cashed on 10 of the 16 games.
I will post the dog of the Tigers/Mariners game once I see Pinnacle puts it on the board.
Code:902 Braves +123 Yesterday: 6-10 -2.79 903 Padres +111 July 2006: 56-62 +11.28 905 Marlins +157 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 907 Pirates +146 YTD: 224-273 +23.75 909 Cubs +127 911 D-Backs +133 914 Dodgers +115 916 Astros +123 917 Orioles +161 920 Devil Rays +110 921 Red Sox +118 924 Rangers +184 926 Royals +185 928 Mariners +105 929 Angels +112
now lets see how the dogs do in the 2nd half of the season. my guess is that the chalk will start cashing in alot more from roughly mid-august til the end of the season.
I will post the updated record for this on Wednesday night when Pinnacle posts the lines for the Thursday games. This past Sunday looked to be a great day for the dogs to.
This is where this tracking will come into play Dan. To see if the chalk does indeed cash more in the second half.
Ok, was that Allstar break long enough? Seems like a week when it was only 3 days. Now its time to see how this second half of the season stacks up. Since June, this has been going pretty well.
Sunday was a great day for the dogs, hitting 10 out of 15 and bring home a profit of almost 8 units. Would be nice to see more of these type days in the last 3 months of the regular season.
I will post the dog from the Rangers/Orioles game once in see Pinnacle post it.
Code:952 Marlins -103 Sunday: 10-5 +7.81 953 Rockies +110 July 2006: 66-67 +19.09 955 Dodgers +137 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 957 Royals +251 YTD: 234-278 +31.56 959 Athletics +170 961 Orioles +100 963 Indians +192
Yesterday the small card proved to be a bad one for the dogs. Not losing much, but still losing.
Code:902 Cubs +104 Yesterday: 2-5 -1.41 903 Nationals +114 July 2006: 68-72 +17.68 905 Rockies +128 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 908 Marlins +150 YTD: 236-283 +30.15 909 Dodgers +160 911 Brewers -104 913 Braves +118 915 Phillies +108 917 Royals +214 919 Athletics +165 922 Orioles +110 923 Mariners +108 925 White Sox +109 927 Indians +108 929 Devil Rays +192
Yesterday was a terrible day for the dogs. Only hitting 4 out of 15 and dropping over 5 units.
Code:951 Dodgers +140 Yesterday: 4-11 -5.59 953 Phillies +111 July 2006: 72-83 +12.09 955 Mets -101 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 957 Astros +102 YTD: 240-294 +24.56 959 Rockies +139 961 Nationals +114 963 Brewers +116 966 Padres +115 967 White Sox +127 969 Mariners +185 971 Rangers +113 973 Athletics +166 975 Royals +227 977 Indians +152 979 Devil Rays +124
Speechless.
Code:901 Astros +108 Yesterday: 2-13 -10.88 903 Rockies +117 July 2006: 74-96 +1.21 905 Nationals +115 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 907 Dodgers +116 YTD: 242-307 +13.68 909 Braves +124 911 Phillies +103 914 D-Backs -102 916 Cubs +124 917 White Sox +115 919 Royals +246 921 Mariners +136 924 Orioles +100 925 Athletics +118 927 Indians -104 929 Devil Rays +189
Dogs are on a free fall since the break. Man, like clock work. Its crazy. Maybe they will rebound.
Code:951 Nationals +115 Yesterday: 6-9 -1.00 954 Pirates -101 July 2006: 80-105 +0.21 955 Braves +117 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 957 Dodgers +102 YTD: 248-316 +12.68 959 Phillies -104 961 Brewers +190 963 Rangers +112 965 Mariners +157 967 Royals +249 970 Orioles +100 971 Devil Rays +129 974 Angels +106
Last edited by onlooker; 07-18-06 at 12:28 AM. Reason: Fixed mistakes in grading.
nice work and very interesting.
spoke too soon, didn't read the last few posts. Still great work though.
Dogs were 6-9, -1.00 unit yesterday not 5-10 -3.09 units
Winning dogs were Nationals (115), Braves (124), Phillies (103), Royals (246), Orioles (100), and A's (118) for a total of +8.06 units.
So you had 9 losing dogs, which would typically be -9.00 units, but two of them were Indians (-104) and Dbacks (-102), so -9.06 units.
This may be of some interest to those following this thread. I got this info from a poster on another forum at the beginning of the season. He went back through 2005 and tracked all dogs then broke them down into different ranges.
These numbers are all based on an assumed risk of $100 per game and he averaged the juice for calculation purposes (eg +145 in the +150 to +140 category).
It looks like the 150-130 range was very profitable. Not sure how it broke down throughout the season though. Likely more profitable through the first half and then closer to break-even in the second half but that's just my opinion. I have no data to back it up.
Dogs
+150 - +140 = 91-121 for profit of $1095
+150 - +130 = 250-304 for a profit of $4,260
+150 - +120 = 382-476 for a profit of $3,560
+150 - +110 = 516-649 for a profit of $1,670
+150 - +100 = 761-911 for a profit of $1,195
+140 - +130 = 159-183 for a profit of $3,165
+140 - +120 = 291-355 for a profit of $2,465
+140 - +110 = 425-528 for a profit of $575
+140 - +100 = 670-790 for a profit of $100
+130 - +120 = 132-172 for a loss of $700
+130 - +110 = 266-345 for a loss of $2,590
+130 - +100 = 511-607 for a loss of $3,065
+120 - +110 = 134-173 for a loss of $1,890
+120 - +100 = 379-435 for a loss of $2,365
+110 - +100 = 245-262 for a loss of $465
Credit to the original poster who did the work on this. I can't remember who is was.
Hulu
I will check that out and update it later. Thanks for looking out.
I was so freaking tired when I did the grading on this last night, I figured it would be messed up. Had a long day/even in the heat yesterday. Son's birthday party, at the local water park.
Yesterday was another small losing day for the dogs. Hitting on 5 of 12 games yesterday.
Code:901 Nationals +168 Yesterday: 5-7 -0.91 904 Pirates +112 July 2006: 85-112 -0.70 906 Reds +105 June 2006: 168-211 +12.47 908 Cubs +148 YTD: 253-323 +11.77 909 Braves +125 911 Dodgers +107 914 Padres +106 915 Brewers +114 918 Blue Jays +116 919 Royals +245 922 Orioles +102 923 Mariners +150 925 White Sox +124 927 Devil Rays +170 930 Angels +111
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