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    Judge declares mistrial in Roger Clemens perjury case

    All the criminals are getting off in America.

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    haha....wonder if feds will spend another couple of million retrying him

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    Roger Clemens is not a criminal... The guy used steroids for HIS BODY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Roger Clemens is not a criminal... The guy used steroids for HIS BODY.
    I don't think you know what perjury is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Roger Clemens is not a criminal... The guy used steroids for HIS BODY.
    Perjury is a crime

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    a lot of secret fukkin handshakes for this one

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    At the same time, the whole thing is a complete waste of the tax payers money to begin with

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    guy payed big bucks to get the case thrown that prosecuter probably has 5 mil sitting in an off shore account with a set up fake identity, this country is so corrupt, greed is the end of america anybody can be bought

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    He is going to be retried guys, stop over-reacting. Going to be a court date in September to 'decide' but its all about official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzzznutz View Post
    guy payed big bucks to get the case thrown that prosecuter probably has 5 mil sitting in an off shore account with a set up fake identity, this country is so corrupt, greed is the end of america anybody can be bought
    We certainly are a greedy, morally bankrupt nation. Fun ride while it lasted!!

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    All he had to do was plead the 5th

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    somebody's getting paid off

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    I don't think you know what perjury is...
    Yeah. Perjury over using steroids... Like I give a fukk.... Go after these bankers instead, they lie to congress all the fukking time..

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    go figure....

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    he's not the only guy who committed perjury and is getting away with it.

    'i do not recall'.

    sound familiar?

    you really think albreto gonzales didn't recall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ArIvd5 View Post
    he's not the only guy who committed perjury and is getting away with it.

    'i do not recall'.

    sound familiar?

    you really think albreto gonzales didn't recall?
    You can't prove someone 'can't recall'. Its called pleading the 5th. You can prove if someone outright denied using roids and HGH, and their is clear evidence he did. This isn't like lying in a court case matter , this is the Untied States Congress, Clemens is getting what he deserves.

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    Good. They need to leave Clemens alone. The man should be in the hall of fame , not court.

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    I think that this needs to go away and let him go. Shoot we are talking about somebody that lied to liars. The ones on congress lie all of time in elections. We don't need to waste any more of our money on things like this. There is much more important things for us to worry about than this.

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    Sounds like the Feds made a simple, dumb ass mistake. That a first year law student wouldn't make. Looks like this arrogant prick is going to get off.

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    The prosecution on multiple occasions presented inadmissible evidence even when the judge repeatedly warned them not to, so the judge declared a mistrial.

    Congress and the federal government shouldn't be involved with steroids and MLB anyway, I hope Clemens gets off completely free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverstoppers23 View Post
    Sounds like the Feds made a simple, dumb ass mistake. That a first year law student wouldn't make. Looks like this arrogant prick is going to get off.



    dude you are the arrogant prick not Clemens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tblues2005 View Post
    I think that this needs to go away and let him go. Shoot we are talking about somebody that lied to liars. The ones on congress lie all of time in elections. We don't need to waste any more of our money on things like this. There is much more important things for us to worry about than this.
    This is not the same thing about congressmen stretching the truth in elections, about what they will do in the future.

    This is about the sanctity of our congressional investigations, if they don't prosecute one of the most famous cases of out right lying under oathe to the Congressional committee. Its likely that in future investigations people who are called upon to testify are , and will not take the threat of being charged with perjury as a credible threat and will just lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    dude you are the arrogant prick not Clemens.
    Um, how so? What makes me arrogant?

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    no proof, and for people that can't remember, he became a better pitcher because he developed off speed pitches and a split finger fastball.

    He did not become stronger, get more endurance, etc. Most of his games with the astros he would pitch 5 or 6 innings and leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Yeah. Perjury over using steroids... Like I give a fukk.... Go after these bankers instead, they lie to congress all the fukking time..
    Agreed. If people (and yes I'll say-even kids) are so stupid to figure athletes are natural without clear evidence otherwise they deserve to be disillusioned, etc. Freaking old jagoffs in Congress worried about the corruption of their sport-look around you sir.

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    doesn't mean he is off the hook

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    no proof, and for people that can't remember, he became a better pitcher because he developed off speed pitches and a split finger fastball.

    He did not become stronger, get more endurance, etc. Most of his games with the astros he would pitch 5 or 6 innings and leave.
    You cannot be serious buddy. Christ, you sound like Big Mac..."steroids didn't make me great, God made me great..." Laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsmitty View Post
    You cannot be serious buddy. Christ, you sound like Big Mac..."steroids didn't make me great, God made me great..." Laughable.
    Steroids don't make you great, they allow you to become great. You still have to put in the work, the hours, the training.

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    he was already great, and can you read. do some research. He became a better pitcher when he developed a split finger fastball that he never had before. He also threw harder in the 80's then he ever came close to in the 90's. Maybe he should of threw one of his kids in the pool to drown , dump his body and be not guilty instead

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    Judge declares mistrial in Clemens case

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The judge declared a mistrial Thursday in baseball star Roger Clemens' perjury trial after prosecutors showed jurors evidence the judge had ruled out of bounds.
    U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton said the prosecutors had made a grave mistake. And he said Clemens could not be assured a fair trial after jurors were shown evidence against the court's orders in the second day of testimony.
    Walton scheduled a Sept. 2 hearing to determine whether to hold a new trial. He told jurors he was sorry to have wasted their time and spent so much taxpayer money, only to call off the case.
    "There are rules that we play by and those rules are designed to make sure both sides receive a fair trial," Walton told the jury, saying such ground rules are critically important when a person's liberty is at stake.
    "If this man got convicted, he would go to jail," Walton said.
    He said that because prosecutors broke his rules, "the ability with Mr. Clemens with this jury to get a fair trial with this jury would be very difficult if not impossible."
    Prosecutors suggested the problem could be fixed with an instruction to the jury to disregard the evidence, but Walton seemed skeptical. He said he could never know what impact the evidence would have during the jury's deliberations "when we've got a man's liberty at interest."
    "I don't see how I un-ring the bell," he said.
    Defense attorney Rusty Hardin patted an unsmiling Clemens on the back as the judge announced his decision. Clemens did not speak to reporters as he left the courtroom and made a telephone call in a private corner of the hallway.
    Clemens and his lawyers remain under a court gag order and they declined to comment as they left the courthouse. Clemens hugged a couple of court workers, shook hands with the security guards and signed autographs and a couple of baseballs for fans
    "I'm not going to say anything," Clemens said, sounding frustrated at the mass of reporters and camera crews. He and his legal team ducked into a nearby restaurant to escape the horde of news people.
    Walton interrupted the prosecution's playing of a video from Clemens' 2008 testimony before Congress and had the jury removed from the courtroom. Clemens is accused of lying during that testimony when he said he never used performance-enhancing drugs during his 24-season career in the Major Leagues.
    One of the chief pieces of evidence against Clemens is testimony from his former teammate and close friend, Andy Pettitte, who says Clemens told him in 1999 or 2000 that he used human growth hormone. Clemens has said that Pettitte misheard him. Pettitte also also says he told his wife, Laura, about the conversation the same day it happened.
    Prosecutors had wanted to call Laura Pettitte as a witness to back up her husband's account, but Walton had said he wasn't inclined to have her testify since she didn't speak directly to Clemens.
    Walton was angered that in the video prosecutors showed the jury, Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., referred to Pettitte's conversation with his wife.
    "I think that a first-year law student would know that you can't bolster the credibility of one witness with clearly inadmissible evidence," Walton said.
    He said it was the second time that prosecutors had gone against his orders — the other being an incident that happened during opening arguments Wednesday when assistant U.S. attorney Steven Durham said that Pettite and two other of Clemens' New York teammates, Chuck Knoblauch and Mike Stanton, had used human growth hormone.
    Walton said in pre-trial hearings that such testimony could lead jurors to consider Clemens guilty by association. Clemens' defense attorney objected when Durham made the statement and Walton told jurors to disregard Durham's comments about other players.
    There was no objection from Clemens' team during the Laura Pettitte reference, but the judge stopped the proceedings, called attorneys up to the bench and spoke to them privately for several minutes. Hardin pointed out during that time, the video remained frozen on the screen in front of jurors with a transcript of what was being said on the bottom.
    Cummings had been quoting from Laura Pettitte's affidavit to the committee. "I, Laura Pettitte, do depose and state, in 1999 or 2000, Andy told me had a conversation with Roger Clemens in which Roger admitted to him using human growth hormones," the text on the screen read.
    The judge eventually told the jurors to leave while he discussed the issue with attorneys in open court.
    "Government counsel should have been more cautious," Walton said, raising his voice and noting that the case has already cost a lot of taxpayer money. He then left the courtroom and said he would go consult with a colleague on what to do.

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    the Mofo got off the easy way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    the Mofo got off the easy way
    Shouldn't have been there in the first place.This is all these fukkin idiots have to worry about?Want to put liars on trial,let congress be indicted.

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    nothing better to do than go after baseball players. Glad its a mistrial so no more tax payers money needs to be wasted. What a joke.

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    If this case was heard Clemens was going to prison

    His people stopped it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzzznutz View Post
    guy payed big bucks to get the case thrown that prosecuter probably has 5 mil sitting in an off shore account with a set up fake identity, this country is so corrupt, greed is the end of america anybody can be bought
    As it is in every country. Money corrupts at all levels in all countries

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