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    Why are the Yankees getting no respect this year ?

    Team is up 2 1/2 games and can be found at +200 or better to win Al East.

    The Red Sox are 2 1/2 back and are -250 most places.

    What gives ?

    Usually if anything, the Yankees are given too much respect, this year they seem to be getting none.

    In years past, it seems if the Yankees were 5 games out right now they would still be the favorite to win the division.

    I dont get it. The Red Sox offense looks anemic. Only Gonzalez hitting over .275 and Sutton and Reddick dont count these guys have less than 40 AB's.

    The Yankees will get Jeter back soon. Texeria, Cano, Posada, Jeter, Jones, Swisher. Add that too pretty strong pitching from Sabathia, Burnett, Garcia, Nova.

    Also 4 guys in the pen with Era's in the 1's. Ayala ( ERA 1.48) Robertson (ERA 1.15) Rivera ( ERA 1.78)

    Who knows what happens here, but I will take the Yankees + 200

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    Ortiz is hitting like .315 i think but not playing much in interleague

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    and ellsbury over .300 too

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    Yankees have to beat the Rangers & Redsox first to win the AL playoffs. Then they would have to face either Phillies, Braves or Giants which all three have superior pitching compared to Yankees. Other than CC Sabathia all other Yankee pitchers are not playoff material.
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    Ok you got me on Ellsbury. Still Drew, Youkilis, Pedroia in the mid .200's. The Red Sox big names arent hitting that well. And I think the Yankees have better bats, better starting rotation, and a better bullpen. I just dont see how the Red Sox can be justified at -250 to win the division when they are 2 1/2 back right now. That suggests that the Red Sox are much better team than the Yankees, and they just arent.

    The teams are even at best, and with the Yankees up 2 1/2 they should be a small favorite, not +200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Yankees have to beat the Rangers & Redsox first to win the AL east playoffs. Then they would have to face either Phillies, Braves or Giants which all three have superior pitching compared to Yankees. Other than CC Sabathia all other Yankee pitchers are not playoff material.

    I am talking about AL East odds. This has nothing to do with playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobs View Post
    I am talking about AL East odds. This has nothing to do with playoffs.
    OIC...never mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Yankees have to beat the Rangers & Redsox first to win the AL east playoffs. Then they would have to face either Phillies, Braves or Giants which all three have superior pitching compared to Yankees. Other than CC Sabathia all other Yankee pitchers are not playoff material.

    Good point though. In years past +200 for the Yankees would be their price to win the AL. This +200 is to win the AL East

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    Once the Red Sox are done with this inter-league nonsense they will regain top spot in the AL East. They have been playing great ball since their 2-10 start aside from this away inter-league crap.

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    Well Yanks are older
    Pitching is really not that great
    They easily can lose in playoffs like they normally do

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    Possibly because nobody likes NY or maybe it is because the Yanks have been ass raped by Boston 8 times all ready this season.

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    i agree but its not a good spot to take the yankees to win division, the red sox will regain the division within 2 weeks. The yanks are redic hot (mainly because of long homestand) and the red sox are cold due to interleague play and loss of big popi. So red sox will get it back together shortly and the yanks will slump a little on the road so red sox should regain control of first place shortly

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    Because the'v been beating up on all the cellar dwellers while playing at Yankee Stadium every game.. Try beating a real time like the Red Sox! 1-6 vs them.... Yankees SUCK!

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    Pitching

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Well Yanks are older
    Pitching is really not that great
    They easily can lose in playoffs like they normally do

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    because just like last year they aren't going to win the world series this year

    no way jose

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobs View Post
    Ok you got me on Ellsbury. Still Drew, Youkilis, Pedroia in the mid .200's. The Red Sox big names arent hitting that well. And I think the Yankees have better bats, better starting rotation, and a better bullpen. I just dont see how the Red Sox can be justified at -250 to win the division when they are 2 1/2 back right now. That suggests that the Red Sox are much better team than the Yankees, and they just arent.

    The teams are even at best, and with the Yankees up 2 1/2 they should be a small favorite, not +200.
    I think that's part of the reason the Sox are still faves... they started the season playing terribly, they aren't hitting well as they should, Lester hasn't pitched to his potential, and they're still only 2.5 back. If they can play even decent ball, they should take over first by the end of the year.

    The Yanks injury concerns will haunt them all yea IMO. Going to be tough for them to get healthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberKettle View Post
    Once the Red Sox are done with this inter-league nonsense they will regain top spot in the AL East. They have been playing great ball since their 2-10 start aside from this away inter-league crap.

    Maybe, Maybe not. But do you think -260 is a decent price considering they are chasing the Yankees and the Rays are also a contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Well Yanks are older
    Pitching is really not that great
    They easily can lose in playoffs like they normally do

    Again, playoffs have nothing to do with this.

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    Could have tacked on another game to the lead last night, but The Red Sox came back from 5-1 down in the 7th inning. Still Yankees win again today, so another chance to gain a game. Yankees now 50-31, on pace to win exactly 100 games. I dont know how it will turn out, but I cant pass up +200 on a 50-31 first place team like the Yankees.

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    Jeter is back Monday then they will start losing again

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    freddy garcia and the word 'strong' to describe his pitching is a bit of a stretch i think..nova does look promising, but the main reason is that the yanks are gonna have to work a lot harder to turn around their pitching and a lot hinges on hughes, much moreso than the sox, sox offense will turn around if crawford can ever turn himself around when he gets off the DL and crawford off the DL = much better than jeter off the DL

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    Everyone talks about the Yankees pitching being so weak. I dont get it.

    The Red Sox have given up more runs this year then the Yankees have.

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    nobs maybe it has to do with the fact that the yankees have lost something like 7/8 to the sox this year
    no idea

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    Yankees to win Al East +200

    Yankees to win AL +205


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    bartolo colon looks really good, been making some money when he pitches. whip 1.06

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    nobs the yanks arent winning the east. books are baiting you to take them. books have had bos the favorite to win the east before the season began. the yanks might not even make the playoffs. they dont have the pitching that will last the next 3 months. they have been on a good run and are playing okay but they will collapse down the stretch. red sox to win the east at -137 is a steal. see what price you can get on the yanks 30 games from now.

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    Phil Hughes will be back tomorrow. The Yankees slide to .500 will start soon.

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    If the Yankees fix their order they might be better than Boston but not with Jeter leadoff and Cano 5th

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    Because you've had a weak ass schedule so far. Your offense is the best in baseball against average pitching but it's atrocious vs. good pitching. Cano is the only hitter on your team who doesn't get owned vs. solid pitchers. Our offense hits good pitching AND pedroia and youkilis are having the shittiest years ever. They'll probably come around whereas all of your hitter are running wayyyyy above expectation. You think texiera is going to continue hitting hr's at this pace(btw he only has like 15 hrs if he doesn't play in Yankee stadium)? Granderson is running wayyyy hotter than his true skill(he's good, but not that good). Martin is the biggest luckbox of all time hahaha his pussy is so tight and he thinks he's so hard. Bullpen variance is hilarious. Your bullpen is nowhere near as good as they're pitching. Ours is nowhere near as bad as they've been pitching. Your starting is atrocious. CC is tremendously overrated and he's your ace by a mile. Thanks for the easy division victory pussydolls. The RAYS are better than you.

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    Beckett + Lester + Buchholz > Sabathia

    I know that Colon and Garcia have been surprisingly good, but that won't last.

    Yankees do have the better bullpen though, which may be most key

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    boston are mlb's this seasons miami heat !!

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    2-1 odds to win the division isn't exactly not giving any respect. I mean unless the Blue Jays get more consistent starting pitching this is just a 2 team race.

    What are the odds for the Yankees to win the world series?

    Can anyone honestly see any team besides the Red Sox, Yankees, or Phillies winning the World Series this year?

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    If you look at Boston and Yanks head to head. First Offense who would you take, I would take Boston. Starting pitching I would take Boston no question. I don't think the Yanks starting pitchers are going to hold up all season, its pretty amazing when you think about it, that they got so much quality from waiver wire guys. The bullpen i will give a slight edge to the Yanks.
    Boston offense is one of the best we have ever seen IMO. From top to bottom, their top top 6 in their line up is amazing. Not only can they hit the long ball they are very disciplined hitters. Wait in till Carl Crawford gets into his stuff, because he was starting to in till he got hurt. Then Boston is going to be that much better.

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    too bad they got jeter back off the DL. he has been one of the worst players in baseball this season. he will hurt the team. look to boston to take a big lead now.

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