1. 06-14-11 12:36 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardball View Post
    Wow, how can I argue with THAT logic? Ya got me.....Have 5 points on me.

    thx for the points brah

    trust me, I grew facial hair like that when I was 14

    it just didn't feel right, I couldn't even pee straight
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  2. 06-14-11 12:40 AM #37
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    the thing I like about Bell is he's better suited to Hoffman's intro music

    makes you wonder if that was why they signed him in the first place
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  3. 06-14-11 01:23 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParlayJunkie View Post
    K-Rod should not be on that list. Rivera still the best, but Bell is awesome as well.
    But Hes getting it done though. Until that ends, he will be up there. And lets not forget his 62 save year with angels.
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  4. 06-14-11 01:41 AM #39
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    k-rod is really good you're completely wrong about that. he's only blown one. heath bell is good too, and romo for giants is starting to look better than wilson.
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  5. 06-14-11 01:42 AM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by face View Post
    k-rod is really good you're completely wrong about that. he's only blown one. heath bell is good too, and romo for giants is starting to look better than wilson.
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  6. 06-14-11 01:45 AM #41
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    K-Rod has to be on that list. He is still nasty. To bad he doesnt get enough chances with the Mets garbage ass
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  7. 06-14-11 03:02 AM #42
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    The best closer is Brian Wilson, easy
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  8. 06-14-11 08:34 AM #43
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    I feel like Marmol has the best stuff. If he played on a better club, and had a better pitching coach I think he could be a top guy
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  9. 06-14-11 09:46 AM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippertime View Post
    I feel like Marmol has the best stuff. If he played on a better club, and had a better pitching coach I think he could be a top guy
    Well u can make a case like that for few guys out there. But he hasnt proved much this year, so im going to avoid him.
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  10. 06-14-11 10:04 AM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoralizdDreamr View Post
    I would say
    1) Mariano Rivera
    2) Fransisco Rodriguez
    3) Chris Perez
    4) Heath Bell
    5) Jonny Venters/Craig Kimbrel

    Who do u guys think we can trust out there????
    Not many out there, i like hanrahan and the angels closer as well.
    lol
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    mike mccoy is the best closer
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  12. 06-14-11 10:07 AM #47
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    Netfali Feliz
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  13. 06-14-11 10:41 AM #48
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    Wilson
    Mo
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  14. 06-14-11 12:22 PM #49
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    For me Mariano Rivera is the best closer ever
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  15. 06-14-11 12:53 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbawks View Post

    lol
    ur an idiot.
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  16. 06-14-11 09:18 PM #51
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    K Rod got it done again.
    6:53pm 14-Jun-11 14-Jun-11 Baseball
    Total Runs New York Mets/Atlanta Braves (U 7.5) for Game. -129 150.00 116.28
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  17. 06-16-11 09:08 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by jboy4 View Post
    K-Rod has to be on that list. He is still nasty. To bad he doesnt get enough chances with the Mets garbage ass
    1 out 2 run homer, to blow a two run lead.

    The guy is a bum.
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  18. 06-16-11 09:11 PM #53
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    Why dont you guys tell me more about how k-rod is ahead of The Beard on any list.
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    fuk you k-rod!!!
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  20. 06-16-11 09:16 PM #55
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    gay-rod
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  21. 06-16-11 09:17 PM #56
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    Papel-bitch is about to give up the lead in Tampa also.




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  22. 06-16-11 09:22 PM #57
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    9th innings are like the river card in poker, they always seem to pwn me in the worst possible way.
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  23. 06-16-11 09:23 PM #58
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    drew storen is the next up and coming closer. hes better than the braves young combo
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  24. 06-16-11 09:26 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter34 View Post
    drew storen is the next up and coming closer. hes better than the braves young combo
    kid has talent but he's no johnny venters
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  25. 06-20-11 09:53 PM #60
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    Marmol about to blow another Zambrano start.
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  26. 06-21-11 09:07 AM #61
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    You guys give Brian Wilson way to much love.
    The big reason for the ring he has is the guys who pitch the first 8 innings more so then the fact he pitchers the ninth inning.
    Cain, Zito, Timmy and to a lesser extent Bumgarner, and Sanchez put Wilson in a position to succeed, they made it easy for him.

    Wilson's career numbers for a closer are poor.
    Very poor.

    Considering 95 percent of the time he starts the ninth inning, 3.11 earned run average is crap.
    Solid if you are a starter, crap if your job is to pitch the ultimate inning.

    His WH/IP of 1.3 is crap, that's over 11 base runners nine.
    That's barely serviceable if you are a number 3 starter.
    This year it's worse, 1.41, he's blown 2 saves to boot.

    His career record of 19-17 is shaky.

    Mo's numbers crush Wilson's numbers in every area.

    15 years of closing, 1.00 WH/IP, Career earned run average of 2.22 and on and on and on.

    There are at least 5 better closers in the game better than Wilson.

    When I think of Brian Wilson, I think Troy Percival or Keith Foulke, when I think Mo Rivera I think Hall of Famer the best there ever was.
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  27. 06-21-11 09:19 AM #62
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    Comparing other closers to Rivera, is the same as comparing up and coming NBA'ers to MJ.

    Nobody will ever stack up to MJ, and you are just minimalizing others careers by comparing them to the best ever.
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  28. 06-21-11 09:34 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Comparing other closers to Rivera, is the same as comparing up and coming NBA'ers to MJ.

    Nobody will ever stack up to MJ, and you are just minimalizing others careers by comparing them to the best ever.

    Was about to say the same thing. I dont think anyone here can argue against Mo now or what he has done throughout his career, its like trying to compare every new NBA stud to MJ, just isnt fair.

    read my mind Huli.
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  29. 06-21-11 09:39 AM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Comparing other closers to Rivera, is the same as comparing up and coming NBA'ers to MJ.

    Nobody will ever stack up to MJ, and you are just minimalizing others careers by comparing them to the best ever.
    OK, I'll give you your point, unfair to compare Mo to Wilson.

    Posters shit on Huston Street here, but his all around career numbers are much better than Wilson.
    Paps? No even close, I hate the guy but give me Paps 99 times out of 100 over Wilson.
    Since coming over to SD from the Mets, Heath Bell's numbers are ridiculously low.
    Only his second year, but Drew Storen was lockdown in 2010 as 7th and 8th inning guy, for a shitty Nat's team, and he's been shutting the door so far the first half of 2011.
    Laugh at me if you want, but given the choice of Wilson and his 8.5 mil per salary or Storen and his 418K salary, give me Storen, and the 8 mil saved I'll get me another pitcher and an outfielder.
    Storen saves games for 5 guys named Dick, Wilson saves games for future Hall of Famer Timmy and such.

    When you ask me to list the top ten closers in the league, I got Wilson somewhere in the middle of that top ten.

    Oh yeah, the beard is cool and all that, doesn't make him an elite closer though.
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  30. 06-21-11 10:08 AM #65
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    Fearing the beard right now. He gets it done.
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  31. 06-21-11 10:08 AM #66
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    Best closer is my wife. She screamed out last night and shut down the laptop and internet connection.
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  32. 06-21-11 11:07 AM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pick'nParlays View Post
    Fearing the beard right now. He gets it done.
    Yeah, if you like your closer to give up a hit or two an inning before sealing the deal, kind of like John Franco back in the day.
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  33. 06-21-11 11:53 AM #68
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    1) Rivera 2) Heath bell 3) Brian Wilson 4) Kimbrel 5) Cordero
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  34. 06-21-11 12:00 PM #69
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    who has 12+ saves and has not blown one yet?
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  35. 06-21-11 12:30 PM #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippertime View Post
    who has 12+ saves and has not blown one yet?
    With a WH/IP of 0.99 and an earned run average of a buck and a third.

    He's having a better year then Storen.

    Hanrahan (sp?) Pitt
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