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    Phillies are Free Money

    Garcia is due for a sub-par outing, and taking +143 on Oswalt is never a bad idea. Line move brought value here

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    Oswalt has not pitched in 20 days.

    I know he is a chiseled veteran, but being out of rhythm will affect him. I can see him being knocked out of the game early.

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    Don't you wonder why you're getting Philly for +143 in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Don't you wonder why you're getting Philly for +143 in the first place?
    opened at st louis -130

    it moved because of oswalt coming off DL and Garcia's hot start. Fading both thoughts here.

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    pitch count as well?

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    Id have to disagree and I am the biggest philly fan on this forum. Oswalt should not be pitching tonight, and he will be on a pitch count. I personally feel that the only reason Worley is not pitching is bc he has pitched great so far and want to use him as trade bait later. They do not want to tarnish what he has done so far in the big leagues... its a shame bc oswalt could really use another triple A start. On the other end of things, philly can not hit the ball right now...esp. against arguably the best pitcher in baseball so far this year in garcia tonight. Its bad enough without utley and brown, but add victorino to that injury list, and this team really has a tough time hitting the ball. BELIEVE ME, I hope more then anything that I am wrong about this, but dont think i would really consider the phills free money tonight.

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    hope not, really like the cards here

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    i wish i was a bookie when i see these threads

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    might as well call this thread "braves winning the NL East is free money" would love to be the bookie taking these bets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BettingWizard View Post
    opened at st louis -130

    it moved because of oswalt coming off DL and Garcia's hot start. Fading both thoughts here.
    I'm just saying that you're getting the best team in the NL record-wise for a huge number. Think about it.

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    Phillies are 26-9 in their last 35 games vs. a left-handed starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BettingWizard View Post
    Phillies are 26-9 in their last 35 games vs. a left-handed starter.
    And yet, again, they're +143.

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    if the cards score 2 runs its over

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    Quote Originally Posted by BettingWizard View Post
    Phillies are 26-9 in their last 35 games vs. a left-handed starter.

    and yet have a losing record against Garcia.

    gotta say it is real hard to argue your "Garcia is due for a loss theory", seems surefire to me. oh wait he looks really good again tonight (and the funny thing is his stuff wasnt even very good in the 1st couple innings)


    GO CARDS

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    you guys are right, right now 2 runs is enough... but lets talk in october when it matters and when you are sitting watching the phills play

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    i have the stl rl and ml tonight so this is fine with me.. phills show up when it matters... enjoy martinex fransisco ibanez, valdez, sardinha, ect. while you still can...

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    giants will take phils to skool in the first round

    phils will avg 2 runs a game max against them (like lastyear)

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    and the braves will be at home watching yet again... must get old

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    mabey phils should concentrate a bit on their farm system then you wouldnt need all these excuses about injuries cuz this lineup is AAA howard is the only threat

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    12-4 in may

    took phils to skool 2 weekends in a row

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    wait, 12-4 in what month? May or october?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVES1985 View Post
    mabey phils should concentrate a bit on their farm system then you wouldnt need all these excuses about injuries cuz this lineup is AAA howard is the only threat
    hmm, I think 1st place is pretty good for all the injures they have, dont you?

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    doesnt matter no one is gonna beat the redsox this year

    thats 1 more wasted year for the aging phillies

    1 year older

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    why not? their pitching is garbage

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    yep 1st place for about another week

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    we saw just last yr that good pitching beats good hitting

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    they can score more than 3 runs thats y

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVES1985 View Post
    yep 1st place for about another week
    then you can cherish that again until it matters, then hand it back over to the big boys yet again

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    giants had better hitting and better pitching

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    uh oh pujols better not score if he does game over

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVES1985 View Post
    they can score more than 3 runs thats y
    thats funny, sox are only averaging .3 runs more per game, and thats with a DH and with their best player playing the whole year.. again, keep talking out your a$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVES1985 View Post
    giants had better hitting and better pitching
    then the rangers? not a chance better hitting

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    k whose coming out of the AL

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    no i meant better then the phillies

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVES1985 View Post
    no i meant better then the phillies
    well better pitching beat better hitting in the WS like i said.. a few NL team could beat the sox... they wont see pitching like NL teams until the WS... thats if they can get past the rays

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