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    Shut Out System

    First let me say that I did not come up with this, I read this in another thread and thought it would be an interesting system to test and track. I have not tested this other than some visual review of a few teams during last season. I have no idea if it actually works, but somewhere I read that the record last year was 285-3.

    Here's how it work: Once a team is shut-out, you bet that that team will lose it's next game. If it doesn't, you chase it for up to 5 more games till it wins (6 game chase).

    Now I do not have the bank to do a 6 games, so I'm going to just run a separate labby per team for the season, while tracking the success of a chase.

    To date there have been 5 shut-out, all chases won on either the A or B bet.

    So we will start today, 4/7, there were two shut-out. Here is how I wil list things:

    4/7 - Boston (0-1), bet Yankees to win SU on 4/8 (A)
    4/7 - NY Mets (0-11), bet on Washington to win SU on 4/8 (A)

    If anyone has a better idea how to list the plays, I'm open to suggestions.

    Good Luck to me and all that follow.
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    "...you bet that that team will lose it's next game. If it doesn't, you chase it for up to 5 more games till it wins (6 game chase)"

    Just to make sure, you are always betting on the team after the shutout to lose or win at least one of the next six games? Sorry, the wording is a bit confusing

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    there we go i made a post about this this afternoon

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    Bet Against a team off scoring 0 runs. This is a 6gm Chase. I like this system the best due to the fact it has only had 3 losses in 3 yrs and we only omit 3 teams.

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    there is also another one where you

    Bet On a team off allowing 0 runs. This is a 5gm Chase.
    im gonna be tracking both, 4 plays in total tomorrow
    fading red sox and mets
    tailing indians and phillies

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    I am going to bet that after a team is shut-out, that team will lose one of it's next 6 games. You could also do the opposite and bet that that team win a games within 6 games, but I understand that it doesn't earn as many units that way.

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    EB,

    Who are the three teams you should omit?

    Mitch

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    If you run a labby betting system on this and you have two plays for the day on the against system do you have two separate labby lines for each chase or combine them into one?

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    I took out the 3 teams to omit, just copied it over... not gonna omit anyone cause from year to year u don't know who is gonna be good or bad.. steve I'm just using a regular labby set up and if both lose then id add one to row a. And one to row b if they both win just take out the whole top row, I'm at work or id show u better how I do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevedore View Post
    If you run a labby betting system on this and you have two plays for the day on the against system do you have two separate labby lines for each chase or combine them into one?

    I'm running a different for each team

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    I took out the 3 teams to omit, just copied it over... not gonna omit anyone cause from year to year u don't know who is gonna be good or bad.. steve I'm just using a regular labby set up and if both lose then id add one to row a. And one to row b if they both win just take out the whole top row, I'm at work or id show u better how I do it...
    Thanks for the response bro. When you get the time would love to see it. Is it more aggressive that way? I'm thinking of doing a three numbered labby 30-30-30 Also, are you doing both systems, for and against? Curious how betting ON a team has fared over the years as far as the 5 game chase goes. The other system as mentioned here has only 3 losses in 3 years.

    Anyway, I'm sure most are on the Yanks +125 today and the Indians +124, Phillies -104 if you're playing the ON system.
    I'm playing both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchp View Post


    I'm running a different for each team
    O.k., that's what I might do. New to Labby betting, not sure how I should go about it.

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    I was thinking of doing it different for each team but... if it goes to 5 games and ur doing labby lines and it hit and u just end the series u will have lost money....

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    Labby

    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    I was thinking of doing it different for each team but... if it goes to 5 games and ur doing labby lines and it hit and u just end the series u will have lost money....

    Good point, will have to play out some scenarios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    I was thinking of doing it different for each team but... if it goes to 5 games and ur doing labby lines and it hit and u just end the series u will have lost money....
    So what you're saying is you'd end your labby when the chase is over even if your labby isn't complete? Why not carry over your incomplete labby to the next chase and start a new labby only when it's completed?

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    April 8th, 2011 (Red Sox and Mets were shut out on April 7th)
    1) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML + 107 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 21.40
    2) New York Mets vs. Washington Nationals + 135 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 27


    10-10-10-10-20
    x-10-10-x


    this is out im doing it




    cause steve if your doing every team with a single labby set up then your gonna have a lot of labby lines


    as you'll see with mine tomorrow i will fade the sox to win 30

    and if a new team joins then i'll do them for 20

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    basically if your carrying it over your doing the same thing im doing and not checking for teams

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    So we won one and lost one today, not bad. So pending any shut outs, we have at least one bet tomorrow- let's go Yankees. I will post official record and all of tomorrows game later tonight

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    looks like this mitch

    April 8th, 2011 (Red Sox and Mets were shut out on April 7th)
    1) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML + 107 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 21.40
    2) New York Mets vs. Washington Nationals + 135 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 27
    Overall: 1-1 System: 1-0

    10-10-10-10-20
    x-10-10-x

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    if we were truly chasing fading sox would be to win 40


    or if your trying to win 20 bucks each set, you could do them to win 33,
    since this way im up 7

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    looks interesting..

    -playr101

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    tailing phillies again tomorrow

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    yankees are around +130 tomorrow, and

    phillies -110,


    very nervous about the red sox

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    I have confidence in the Yankees to win one of their next two games, not sure where the Phillys come into it (not a play in this system). Possible play in the LAD/SD game, the score is 1-0 in the 4th. I'm not going to make it till the end of the game so I'll post back in the morning.

    Night to all

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    Only one bet today, that would be on the Yankees ML (+130 - Betus). This is a B bet if you are Chasing.

    Good Luck to all!

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    I like this system and think u will be successful with this. I will continue to follow and will play the Yanks today as well.

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    Nice to have you along! There's not a lot of action, you can expect about 12-15 shut outs per team per season, and not a lot of cross over. So you won't have big dollars on the line at any one give point. But, with 30 teams (I think), the end of season unit total shold be pretty nice.

    I supplement this system with two or three others: Yankees (will win 1 of 3 games in a 3 games series), DaBA 1st Inning Favorite Chase, and JM Baseball Chase (team will win 1 of 3 games against a team that has previously shut them out).

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    phillies are a play iin they shut someone out system

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    these are the plays and system up to date this year

    Sys #1 - 4 - 3 +3.05 UNITS

    Sys #2 - 5 - 5 +3.85 UNITS


    4/9/11- NYY +130............ 1.5/1.95 (sys #1)

    4/9/11- Phily -110............ 2.37/2.15 (sys #2)

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    Bol

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    EB,

    I didn't realize we were tracking both systems - I now understand why Philly is a play.

    Thanks

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    Good win

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    April 9th, 2011(continue Red Sox Fade)
    3) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML chase 1 Risk 30 to Win 39
    Overall: 2-1 System : 2-0 Up 46


    April 9th, 2011 (Tailing Philadelphia)
    3) Philadelphia Phillies -108 vs. Atlanta Braves Chase 2 Risk 37.5 to Win 35
    Overall: 2-1 System: 2-0 Up 31

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    2-0 today mitch and playa

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    April 8th, 2011 (Red Sox and Mets were shut out on April 7th)
    1) Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees ML + 107 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 21.40
    2) New York Mets vs. Washington Nationals + 135 chase 1 Risk 20 to Win 27


    10-10-10-10-20
    x-10-10-x


    this is out im doing it




    cause steve if your doing every team with a single labby set up then your gonna have a lot of labby lines


    as you'll see with mine tomorrow i will fade the sox to win 30

    and if a new team joins then i'll do them for 20
    Quote Originally Posted by ebbearsfb1 View Post
    2-0 today mitch and playa
    Thanks for the explantaton. The way I played it today with the Phillies was to do a full chase with no labby and used the labby with the Yanks. Kind of weird I know, but thats what I did. My unit size is $60.

    Philly -134 to win $120 after they lost yesterday. Yanks 90 to win $107. Both winners
    30-30-30-60
    X-30-30-X

    For those that played these systems last year, how many chases involved 3+ games?

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