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SBR Search Results: CORRELATED PARLAYS

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8/19/2010 11:09 AM
BetUS not honoring freeplay winnings?
A BetUS (SBR rating C) player deposited $1,000 via Moneybookers on August 11th. He accepted a $1,000 freeplay which carried a 6X rollover and a 60 day hold. His first wager risked his entire freeplay on Kansas City +1.5 at the price of +135. After winning that wager and increasing his balance by $1,350, BetUS closed the account. The player states that he was told that BetUS caters only to recreational players. To date the player has not confirmed receiving his deposit back. BetUS has not returned communication with SBR regarding the complaint.

In mid-March, a player had $6000 confiscated by BetUS. BetUS originally claimed the player was part of a syndicate, then later said that the winnings were from illegal correlated parlays. BetUS offered no proof of their claim.
7/24/2010 12:51 PM
BetUS (SBR rating C) Steals $6,000?
BetUS (SBR rating C) has seized $6,000 from a player's balance due to correlated parlay wagers. On July 20th, the player wrote to SBR stating that his account was closed in April with a balance of roughly $16,000. BetUS investigated the player for "syndicate wagering" while his account was frozen, but ultimately concluded the player was not acting in concert with other account holders. BetUS states that it does not allow correlated parlays, and docked the player's balance $6,000.

BetUS:
We did freeze the funds won from correlated parlays and sent him the remainder of his balance, per his request. Of course, we do have a correlated parlay rule on our Ts&Cs

SBR reviewed the BetUS terms and conditions page and found only the following rule, which does not specifically mention correlated parlays:

Multiple wagers/parlays/if bets are not accepted where the outcome of one part of the wager contributes to the outcome of another.

In addition to the ambiguity of the printed rule, which could apply to every parlay wager, the BetUS software does not prevent these bets from being accepted. The complaint is similar to the Sportsbook.com (SBR rating D-) confiscations, where players had thousands in winnings voided after placing wagers on correlated parlays. SBR is discussing the situation with BetUS.
2/19/2010 12:59 PM
WagerWeb confiscation update
On January 6th SBR reported that WagerWeb (SBR rating D) confiscated $9578.60 from a player that wagered exclusively on correlated parlays. WagerWeb has since locked the player out of his betting account, freezing his remaining $1700 balance. SBR is following up with WagerWeb to ascertain the reason for the action and whether or not the player is scheduled to be paid his funds.
1/27/2010 06:17 PM
Enterbet states that it will intentionally slow pay correlated parlay players
Two EnterBet (SBR rating D-) players have filed slow pay complaints with SBR in the last month. The first player requested his $4000 balance 18 months ago, while the second player requested $1500 in early November. In a discussion with EnterBet management on behalf of the two players, EnterBet stated the following:

EnterBet:
"These two players were verbally warned not to play correlated parlays. They'll get paid, but I am going to slowpay anyone that does this."


Correlated bets are wagers where the favorite is parlayed with the over, or dog with the under in the same game, or parlaying two bets where winning the first leg makes the second more likely to win. The industry standard in dealing with correlated bets is to block games with too high of a correlation between the pointspread and total from being accepted by the betting software. Enterbet chose to instead accept all correlated parlays. SBR is continuing to speak with EnterBet on the unprecedented decision to intentionally slow pay the winning players.

1/6/2010 07:47 AM
WagerWeb (SBR rating C-) confiscation of $9578.60 determined to be theft.
On December 21, 2009, SBR provided an update on this dispute. WagerWeb claimed that the player won a net of $9578.60 on correlated parlays, and that it had warned the player not to make this type of wager in the past. WagerWeb seized this money from the player's balance. SBR asked the sportsbook to, at minimum, provide proof that the player was warned, but was unable to.

The player provided a wager log that shows he started betting on August 23rd, 2009. From August 23 to October 24th, 2009, the player put in numerous bets consisting of mostly correlated parlays. The player lost and made redeposits on September 26th, October 4th and October 17th, 2009. With each redeposit, WagerWeb reviewed his play and gave him deposit bonuses. At one point, the player was down $11,000 betting correlated parlays (which WagerWeb was allowing during the losing streak). The player did not move past even until October 24th, at which point he was showing a net win of $3752. correlated parlays accounted for a net win of $4302.

If WagerWeb had only confiscated $4302 (the player's net win from correlated parlays), it still would have been an unjust confiscation. Although WagerWeb's rule states that it does not accept correlated parlays, it had no problem honoring them when this player (and other players) were losing for months. WagerWeb's software permits line managers to designate what games are eligible for same-game parlays - if WagerWeb did not want to accept correlated parlays, it could have set its software to disallow any bet type it did not want. WagerWeb's selective enforcement of this rule allows it to free-roll players as evident by at one-time beating this player out of $11,000. Any practice that allows a book to accept wagers the Sportsbook can win, but the player cannot is unfair and unethical.

In addition to confiscating $4302 from the player's net win in correlated parlays, it stole another $5276.60. When it was pointed out to WagerWeb that the player won only $4302 from correlated parlays, it made no attempt to justify the additional theft.
12/21/2009 12:42 PM
WagerWeb correlated parlay confiscation update
On 12/14, SBR reported on WagerWeb (SBR rating C-) confiscating $9578.60 from a player that had wagered multiple correlated parlays. The player is a long-time bettor with WagerWeb and placed numerous correlated parlays dating from August 29th to October 24th. On October 29th the player inquired about initiating a withdrawal via bank wire. At this point WagerWeb began a five week auditing process which culminated in deducting $9578.60 in winnings citing correlated parlay play.

WagerWeb has a rule which outlaws correlated bets. The rule states WagerWeb does not accept any bet that is considered a correlated multiple, or parlay. WagerWeb uses ASI software, which has the ability to limit the correlation percentage of same-game pointspread to total parlays. WagerWeb chose not to exercise this software function and instead accepted the players parlay wagers.

The player disputes his net amount won by placing these correlated wagers. WagerWeb has not yet justified how it obtained the $9578.60 figure. SBR will update this report as discussion continues. | View initial WagerWeb complaint
12/14/2009 12:48 PM
WagerWeb selectively enforcing rule on correlated parlays
On December 7th, WagerWeb (SBR rating C) confiscated $9578.60 from a player, citing their rule against correlated paralys. WagerWeb does not restrict correlated parlays from being accepted via the software, and has admitted to SBR that the rule is selectively enforced. WagerWeb claims the player was warned not to continue placing correlated parlays and that the player ignored the warning. The player denies ever receiving a warning. WagerWeb's selective enforcement allows it to keep winnings from losing players, and confiscate funds from winners. This is a clear case of theft by WagerWeb similar to the unresolved complaints of Sportsbook.com (SBR rating D-). WagerWeb also has a history of confiscating winnings citing rules after a players funds have won for a period of time and funds have been at risk. SBR will update this report pending further discussion with WagerWeb management.
10/4/2009 11:03 PM
BetFirstClass reserves right to cancel winning parlays and keeping losers?
A player reported that he placed a correlated parlay of a side and total in an NFL game. After BetFirstClass (SBR rating C-) graded the wager as a win, the player states it was cancelled. BFC cited the fact that the parlay picks were on correlated outcomes and not allowed despite the player's funds being at risk and the software allowing the wager. BetFirstClass' own rule acknowledges that the sportsbook is aware it is taking these bets while not honoring them.
Clients Betting on correlated parlays run the risk of having funds deducted from the account. Balances and this can & will be done via mgmt here at betfirstclass on an Individual Basis. If you wager these type parlays, you are playing at your own risk. This includes any N.H.L Parlays where the Puck line is correlated to the total (if 6 or less)
Player:
Its bullsh*% the bets can be placed in their software and then they can re-grade after the game is over. Something to take note of... I spoke with the owner and it looks like they are standing firm on the issue.
Players should use caution when dealing with sportsbooks that expect players to govern themselves using their terms of service instead of making the proper investment in sportsbook software. SBR will inquire with BFC about both the general policy and rule and the player complaint.

9/30/2009 04:56 PM
Canbet’s Rise and Fall as an Online Sportsbook; Canbet downgraded to C
Seven years ago Canbet broke into the top ten SBR recommended list of online sportsbooks. The Australia based operation had been a long-time member of the Top 20 list, widely regarded among off-shore bettors as a solid out that was worthy of being on any player’s short list. Canbet reached a rating as high as A-, earned on May 14th 2005. They maintained that mark impressively for four years.

Then everything changed. Bonus terms were retroactively changed, payouts were delayed, accounts were confiscated, and even winning wagers were canceled. Following IASbet's sale of Canbet on May 13th 2009 to Yin King Investments Ltd., Canbet has only continued its slide of poor management and player relations.

Here are some of the more disturbing unresolved complaints against Canbet. | View full report (written by Lou Moretti)

May 22nd 2009: Canbet cancels 27 correlated NCAA football parlays
Canbet cancels 27 correlated NCAAF parlays the day after the bets were correctly settled in players account. Canbet maintains their software has never accepted correlated parlays where the pointspread exceeds 33% of the total, stating the string of bets were accepted due to ''operator error''. Canbet management has stated that they believe the player was aware of this as he proceeded to bet more than his average stake size and also deposit in larger amounts to take advantage of these plays. | View more here

Canbet’s posted rules on correlated players actually make an argument on the player’s behalf:

Canbet:
Any multiple made up of more than one selection from the same event will be deemed a related contingency. i.e. Alan Shearer to score 1st & Newcastle Utd to win; Denver -7.5 pts and Denver to win the game. The only exception to the above is in North American sports where sides and totals can make up a multiple bet. "

5/22/2009 05:57 PM
Canbet canceled 27 correlated NCAA football parlays on different games; downgraded to C+
SBR has discussed the case numerous times with management in recent months. Canbet states that their software has never accepted correlated parlays where the point spread exceeds 33% of the total, and that the string of bets were accepted due to "operator error." Management also stated they believe the player was aware of this as he bet more than his average stake size and also deposited larger amounts to take advantage of these plays. Canbet:
Parlays should not have been offered on this game and were only offered on this game due to operator error. Company policy is to only offer such parlays when the point spread is roughly a third or less of the points total. The fact that the bets were not voided until after the match does not alter the fact that the parlays were accepted in error in the first place. Agreed, it is certainly not normal practice to detect such bets until after the event. Again, through operator error these bets were not detected prior to grading the event.
Canbet cites a rule that it claims supersedes the fact that the software allowed the wagers and graded them after the player's funds had been risked.
In the event that a line or price is put up in obvious error due to a human error by an employee, any customer wagers entered to take advantage of such error will be void.
The most applicable rule Canbet has for these wagers suggests that they were valid bets that are allowed.
Any multiple made up of more than one selection from the same event will be deemed a related contingency. i.e. Alan Shearer to score 1st & Newcastle Utd to win; Denver -7.5 pts and Denver to win the game. The only exception to the above is in North American sports where sides and totals can make up a multiple bet.

Canbet will remain under review as this and other disputes are discussed further and more is learned about Canbet's impending migration to its new platform and management. International All Sports Ltd. sold Canbet last week to Yin Khing Investments Ltd. IASbet's rating will also be reviewed. | IASbet Ltd: Canbet press release
3/10/2008 05:36 PM
Sports.com (SBR rating D-) & Linesmaker (SBR rating C-) close player's accounts; confiscate $1,765
The Sportsbook.com -hosted sportsbooks are known to give multiple promotions and bonuses over long periods of time only to confiscate funds if the user is deemed to be unprofitable claiming he/she "took advantage" of an offer or did something "not in the spirit" of the promotion. This player was told he took part in "free bet abuse" which is the label given when a player uses two $10 free bets on opposing teams or has simply collected multiple free bet credits at different Sportsbook.com-hosted brands over an extended period of time. Sales agents tell players during the sign up process that each book is a separate entity, is not affiliated with other brands, and that bonuses and accounts with different Sportsbook.com-hosted brands are allowed. The Sportsbook.com group's risk management department audits winning accounts looking for reasons to confiscate the amount of money the player has won through its time with the book. The scam affected many players in 2007 when the operation debited accounts thousands in winnings on correlated parlays. Sportsbook.com kept player losses from those same wagers.

Linesmaker ownership is expected to reverse the decision of its turnkey provider as it has in the past. SBR has asked both sportsbook brands' decision makers to review the claim.

10/19/2007 01:23 PM
Sportsbetting.com (SBR rating D+) joins BetUSA (SBR rating C-) in stating that it will not confiscate winnings from correlated parlays, which was the original action taken by service provider, Sportsbook.com's (SBR rating D+) operation management. Any players that have found their SportsBetting.com account to be debited should contact SBR or Sportsbetting.com.

BetUSA has added the following rule to address the lack of software control over correlated parlays. Other Sportsbook.com sister sites are encouraged to add similar language and warn players via email that this new stipulation exists.

Correlated parlay betting: The results of certain events can be considered to be correlated. For example, in college football betting on a heavy underdog (eg 35 point underdog) and the under in the game is statistically correlated. If players consistently bet correlated parlays then management reserves the right to regrade wagers. Wagers will be split so that half the stake will go on the pointspread and half on the under in the game. This rule applies from 19 October 2007. This will only apply to those regularly staking $50 or more on parlays and is intended only to limit professional bettors who consistently bet correlated parlays.
SBR Rules Monitor: BetUSA

SBR continues to discuss this matter with Sportsbook.com management with little progress. Sportsbook.com has agreed to credit players for losing correlated parlays since September 1st. This is of little consolation for most victims because only winning account holders were robbed during a time period when Sportsbook.com noticed players beating the book for large sums. Players do not have the option to recover losses from periods prior when they may have sustained a losing run. The offer by Sportsbook.com, although possibly reducing the amount stolen, further illustrates why the actions are unjust.


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