10/13/2007 12:05 AM
SCAM: Latest bets4all (SBR rating F) victims told they will not be paid because they are either "professional players," have "inside information" or are "bookmakers" themselves. bets4all has previously told SBR that slow-paid players must disclose how they obtained their picks before they would be paid. In the past month six players have reported a no-pay complaint and are owed an average of $2,000. Bet4All will not answer emails or allow players to speak to a decision maker.
8/1/2007 11:58 AM
Yesterday's bets4all (SBR rating F) report prompts two players to submit new no-pay complaints.
Player: I have been trying to get my money from bets4all since late April. I have 1325 EUR on my account. They do not answer any of my emails. I have talked to several persons at their office. Last time I got an email saying they should pay – however that was three weeks ago. I have a friend that also has tried to get his money, he had 1640 EUR on the account.
7/31/2007 03:32 PM
bets4all (SBR rating F) withholding payment due to suspicion of syndicate wagering
The player's original withdrawal was requested in May. The sportsbook revoked his bonus and is withholding funds, demanding that the player reveal how he made his picks. bets4all users consistantly complain of the book's failure to fill payout requests and respond to email.
bets4all to player: Dear Mrs. ******, To further continue with your payout, we need the written information from you where you have your betting tipps from. Please write us a list with all betting sources you are using to get to bet on a certain game. You may well discribe it with an example for one of your bets. Best wishes, The bets4all.com - Team!
4/25/2007 06:59 PM
bets4all (SBR rating F) claims new victimsThe Austrian bookmaker was the subject of four no-pay complaints this month.
bets4all continues to try to wear players down so they will eventually give up pursuing their funds. One player reports initiating legal action against the sportsbook.
Player: I'd like to report a problem with this book. I requested a payout 4 weeks ago. They debited the amount from my account but did not make the payment. They have completely ignored the many emails I have sent them. On the telephone they say the person I need to speak to is not in the office but he will call me back - which he doesn't. One person I spoke to said they would not be making the payout and refused to give any reason. I asked his name, which he gave me. When I called again, the office said there was no person there by that name. I have called over twenty times, but they just play the same kind of games with me.
11/27/2006 09:43 PM
SBR mailbag: Three players report bets4all (SBR rating F) no-pays Player: I had opened an account with
bets4all before I knew about your site and the ratings that you give to Betting companies. Anyhow, I had Euros1703 in my account with
bets4all. On 4 September 2006 I requested a withdrawal of these funds. The funds were taken out of my account but were not sent to me.
Player: I am having issue’s withdrawing my balance from
bets4all.com I set up the withdrawal at the end of August (29th I believe) and, even though it was confirmed to myself 3 weeks ago that the withdrawal would be completed within a week I am yet to see the money in my account.
Player: Please help!!
bets4all not pay going on two months and don’t use email. I will check
SBR ahead of deposit. Is anything you can do?
8/30/2006 05:48 PM
Mailbag Complaints:
WorldBet (SBR rating D-): Player’s winning wager on FIBA basketball cancelled after match due to erroneous
betting odds. Book not responding to player emails requesting the book pay at correct market odds.
DragonWager (SBR rating D-): Book moving toward F rating after two more players report no-pay cases. DragonWager continues to supply odd excuses such as a surge in chargebacks.
bets4all (SBR rating F): Latest wave of no-pay complaints began last Tuesday. The sportsbook is using its usual excuse, stating it needs six weeks to verify legitimacy of credit card deposit. The
’verification process’ has lead to players waiting for months, years and some not being paid at all.
Sports-Gambling (SBR rating D-): New player reports confiscated $3,000 balance after transfer from
SunsetSports (SBR rating F-) account, for being "
too sharp". The
SBG Global (SBR rating D-) Group has confiscated over $33,000 in legitimate balances in past year.
8/7/2005 08:11 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bets4all (SBR rating F) trys to bargain with SBR for a better rating. The sportsbook tells SBR they will pay the latest player to file a complaint if SBR gives the book a rating upgrade. They acknowedge the player deserves his money, having not violated any rules: "
We told Mr. ******* we will pay him but we will not accept that our received downgraded status from you will stay at this level. Maybe you can help us and Mr. ******* ."
SBR made it clear to
bets4all that warnings will continue for as long as the many no-pay cases exist.
7/24/2005 08:29 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bets4all (SBR rating F) management requests list of bettors with pending payout complaints from SBR. Players have not reported a payment since SBR last submitted a list to
bets4all in early 2004. It is unknown if this submission of over 20 delinquent account holders will again have positive results.
bets4all has become known as a deposit-only sportsbook that does not respond to emails. Players who have not yet submitted their complaint may email
Assistance@SportsbookReview.com.
7/8/2005 09:35 PM
bets4all downgraded from F+ to F
5/20/2005 06:41 PM
bets4all downgraded from D- to F+
5/20/2005 05:43 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bets4all (SBR rating F+) situation worsening. This Austrian sportsbook, which attracts players with a wide soccer selection, is now confiscating player funds and refusing to offer a reason why.
bets4all has joined SBR’s Blacklist with a downgrade from D- to F+.
3/8/2005 12:04 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bets4all (SBR rating D-) again in slow-pay mode. As of last week the book had paid all players who have submitted complaits to SBR. The payment process took over six months for most. SBR is now receiving new payout complaints.
2/22/2005 03:11 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: Three players report receiving payment in full from Austrian sportsbook,
bets4all (SBR rating D-). Players still owed by
bets4all may write to
assistance@sportbookreview.
11/24/2004 12:27 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: Clerk from Austrian sportsbook
bets4all (SBR rating D-) tells SBR that he is "not allowed to speak about
bets4all payment issues". SBR continues to get complaints from players who have been waiting months for a withdrawal.
bets4all confirms they have all necessary documentation and are unable to supply an explanation of why payments are not processed. Players report being told that credit card payouts will take six months for identity verification.
11/24/2004 12:05 PM
bets4all downgraded from D to D-
10/22/2004 04:43 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: Money Plays Casino (SBR rating F+), part of GoTo Entertainment, stalling player owed $3,000 for over 3 months. Management states the client is on a payment plan yet does not have a planned date for payment or set amount.
Sports Betting Lines (SBR rating F+) slow-paying customer since 10/7/04. Player has received sporadic emails over the last two weeks falsely claiming payment has been sent. Phone lines and live-chat are currently down.
BetOnSports (SBR rating C): Two players report being slow-paid. One player is waiting 10 days for FirePay payment while another is waiting for a credit card withdrawal from 9/17/04.
bets4all (SBR rating D-): Complaints continue to mount. Downgraded to D-
10/22/2004 02:55 PM
Sportsbettinglines.ca downgraded from D+ to D,
bets4all downgraded from D to D-
10/19/2004 06:31 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: Player files 1 month slow-pay complaint against
SportsbookUSA (SBR rating F-). SBR is also recieving an influx of new slow-pay complaints against
bets4all (SBR rating D).
10/12/2004 01:18 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bets4all (SBR rating D) pays player in full after 3 month delay.
Update 10/13/04: Wire prompts new players to report slow-pay complaints.
10/10/2004 02:24 AM
SBR mailbag: Valid slow-pay complaints come from players with
bets4all (SBR rating D),
Sports Interaction (SBR rating D) and
Bet Casino Sports (SBR rating F). SBR is currently investigating multiple complaints from
CyberSportsbook (SBR rating F+) players who claim their funds were wrongly confiscating for being involved in syndicate play. SBR continued to receive pleas for help from those being slow-paid by
BetPlatinum (SBR rating D-),
Oklahoma Sports Betting (SBR rating D-), and
English Sports Betting (SBR rating F-).