3/2/2007 07:01 PM
Owner of defunct sportsbook,
bet4aces (SBR rating F) offering sportsbook hosting services for other bookmakers. The website called VisionSoftsa.com claims to "
Gain the trust of online players through fair play, transparency, and responsible gaming." This software was developed while
bet4aces was was unable to pay players who were eventually robbed of thousands. Thanks to SBR poster
Montreaux for information.
10/1/2006 11:10 PM
Stiff sportsbook bet4aces (SBR rating F) appears to have pulled the plug on its website. Players who have been tracking this scam are aware that balances can be viewed by logging into new scam site,
Sportsbook777.com (SBR rating F). Others are now learning that they have been scammed. SBR is currently investigating several other websites that may be affiliated with
bet4aces.
Player: "I have been frantically trying to figure out what is going on and then came across your site and see that they are on your Black List. I see that they have merged with/changed to Sportsbook777.com. I tried out my account info and password there and it works! But when I tried calling them, someone answered playing dumb and then said that he needs to call the wagering room and then will call me back and hung up the phone without even getting my number."
8/25/2006 10:52 AM
SCAM Alert: bet4aces (SBR rating F) marketing new website brand, BullDog777. Bulldog777.com is scheduled to replace
Sportsbook777.com today. SBR will continue to warn players about gaming properties affiliated with no-pay book,
bet4aces.
8/22/2006 01:53 PM
SCAM Alert: Sportsbook777 (SBR rating F) and
bet4aces (SBR rating F) using new bonus programs to lure in new victims for football season.
8/4/2006 01:24 PM
SCAM sportsbook, Sportsbook777 (SBR rating F) gives website immediate makeover after
SBR’s
bet4aces (SBR rating F) report. Players reminded to avoid.
8/1/2006 01:47 PM
SCAM ALERT: bet4aces (SBR rating F) advertising new sportsbook, Sportsbook777. Viet777.com
advertisements are currently running in a Vietnamese newspaper. Viet777.com redirects to Sportsbook777, which is a homepage for the same
bet4aces system.
7/1/2006 01:39 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bet4aces (SBR rating F) management confirms insolvency. Manager Charlie tells SBR that the sportsbook does not have player balances, and the problems are beyond the transferring of funds to merchant accounts. Charlie, who was brought in last month to assist with finances, says he has not been given access to funds as promised, and will leave
bet4aces early this month.
bet4aces continues to take deposits and should be considered a SCAM.
7/1/2006 01:23 PM
bet4aces downgraded from D- to F
6/25/2006 11:55 PM
bet4aces (SBR rating D-) players hope latest payout promises are fulfilled. bet4aces, which continues to miss its scheduled withdrawal dates, claims they will be able to process Neteller transfers this week. Some players have been waiting for their funds for over 3 weeks. Player inquires over LiveChat today:
Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with ’John’
John: welcome to
bet4acesJohn: how may I help you
you: A*****
you: You know the question, John.
John: sure and the answer is sir
John: we will be paying finally
John: all neteller members early this week
John: coming week
you: OK, just thought I’d check.
6/16/2006 06:26 PM
bet4aces downgraded from D to D-
6/12/2006 04:42 PM
bet4aces (SBR rating D) tells SBR they will not be able to process payouts until Friday, possibly Monday. The sportsbook blames new bank wire problems for the latest failed attempt to move money to their Neteller merchant and local bank account.
6/2/2006 03:28 PM
bet4aces (SBR rating D) unable to process payouts of more than $2,000. Management tells SBR that they must wait until funds are wired to
alternate Costa Rican bank accounts on Wednesday. SBR recently spoke with ownership, who anticipates a permanent solution to be in place before the end of the month.
bet4aces downgraded from D+ to D.
6/2/2006 03:26 PM
bet4aces downgraded from D+ to D
5/31/2006 03:35 PM
bet4aces (SBR rating D+) schedules player’s $1,800 Neteller payout for fourth business day. Backlogged withdrawal requests will likely be a problem until the book adds sufficient banking resources. Players should be cautious while this new sportsbook struggles through the start-up process. Update 5/31/2006 6:30:23 PM:
bet4aces processes withdrawal today, a day before forecasted.
5/18/2006 11:51 PM
Third bet4aces (SBR rating D+) client complains during past week that the sportsbook misses scheduled withdrawal mark. bet4aces acknowledges difficulties moving funds to Neteller but has not made alternate banking options available to players. The bettor hopes to receive his Neteller transfer tomorrow, the fourth business day.
Player:
"I requested a $2K payout at 8:30AM on Tuesday and was told I’d have my money on Wednesday. Their processing window is 24-48 hrs for Neteller. But didn’t get the payout on Wed, and Thursday (today) I called them and was told I’d get it for sure this evening." "I still wonder if I’ll get the payout on Friday afternoon. This is really poor service. Tuesday AM requests not being processed until Friday afternoon???"
5/15/2006 01:28 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bet4aces (SBR rating D+) reports $2515 has been sent to client.
5/15/2006 12:14 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bet4aces (SBR rating D+) Slow-pay A
bet4aces player has been waiting since Thursday for a Neteller payout of $2500. The book blames the delay on the challenges of banking in Costa Rica and says it plans to expand its financial resources to other countries.
bet4aces states they are funding the company bank account today. SBR to update report when player is paid in full.
5/8/2006 01:43 PM
bet4aces upgraded from D- to D+
5/7/2006 11:41 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: Two more players report receiving sums in the amount of stolen
BetGateway (SBR rating F-) balanaces from
bet4aces (SBR rating D-). Those with a claim against Gateway should contact
SBR.
5/4/2006 09:56 AM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bet4aces (SBR rating D-) customer service manager agrees to credit player $50 for unlisted withdrawal fee and states that the website will be updated to show the withdrawal fee structure.
5/3/2006 06:26 PM
SBR mailbag:
10Bet (SBR rating C+): Player writes that
10Bet has cancelled his wager due to a bad-line, off by 10 cents, after the game was already in progress. Today’s phone calls to 10bet went unanswered.
Update May 9: 10bet provides documentation proving the wager was canceled prior to the start of match. 10Bet tells SBR of plans to add 24/7 phone support for US players.
bet4aces (SBR rating D-): Multiple players report timely payouts. One
bet4aces client complains of being charged a $50 withdrawal fee, despite the book’s banking page listing "
Free" withdrawals for all transfer methods. Upon inquiring about applicable fees, SBR was told to call back in the morning because "
customer service was at dinner".
SBG Global (SBR rating D+): Two players complain of confiscation of winnings due to having an account at a sister sportsbook within the
SBG family.
3/17/2006 07:11 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: BetonStars(SBR rating D) continues to struggle to keep merchant accounts funded. The sportsbook relocated to its
new office on 2/08/06 and management assured SBR that this would be the company’s turning point. BetonStars has since experienced persistent technical difficulties and players continue to report having to wait for their withdrawals. Customer service manager, John, recently left the company to join
bet4aces(SBR rating D-).
Player:
"I have been having a problem getting paid by BetonStars. I requested a $2500 Neteller payout on Monday (13th) and have yet to receive it. I called them back on Tues and Wed to re-request the payout and they said that I was "first on their list" to receive money but at this time they had no money in their Neteller account. They said they were waiting on funds to clear. Anyway, I waited Thurs and Fri, even placing a $1000 on Fri night (and losing). I just called to check the progress of my withdrawl and they said the customer service department was closed but they could process it for me and I should get it Monday (they didn’t say why it hadn’t been processed on Thurs or Fri). I will let you know what happens but I have a bad feeling about this. This is the first time I have ever used a Sportsbook of questionable reputation and I have learned my lesson. I don’t know if you have had any other complaints recently, but I don’t want anyone else to go through what I have gone through so I thought I should let you know."
3/15/2006 04:52 PM
bet4aces upgraded from F- to D-
3/15/2006 04:43 PM
SBR BillDozer reports: SBR meets with bet4aces(SBR rating D-); discusses affiliation with BetGateway. Edward, part of
bet4aces ownership, tells SBR that they will take responsibility for its association with SCAM sportsbook BetGateway and settle all delinquent accounts. Edward assures SBR that
bet4aces will "
right this wrong" and contends that he is operating a legitimate sportsbook. Ownership acknowledges that the company was built on BetGateway’s platform, that they utilized the same servers and equipment, and employed a Gateway manager, but is adamant that the company was purchased and is controlled by new ownership. Edward went on to say that Gateway manager, Henry, is no longer with
bet4aces and noted that
bet4aces is in the Torre del Este building and not in the Law Offices of Mauricio Gomez like past reincarnations of VipBetZone scam sportsbooks.
View bet4aces office photos here.
3/15/2006 03:33 PM
bet4aces(SBR rating F-) settling debts owed to BetGateway(SBR rating F-) account holders. Players stiffed by BetGateway should write to
Assistance@SportsbookReview.com immediately. SBR has confirmed that
bet4aces has sent over $80,000 to owed players.
2/28/2006 08:48 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: BetGateway(SBR rating F-) victims frustrated as they learn this scam sportsbook exists under new name,
bet4aces.
Player writes:
"First i was able to log in to bet4aces using the login info from betgateway and i saw my balance of 585$. i open the chat with edward and ask for cashout..first he said ok and after few days i chat with him again but this time he said " its not me who you talked with" and i was unable to log in to the account again."
bet4aces claims it purchased Gateway’s system without knowledge of the debt owed to players. The claim is made despite the fact that
bet4aces is located in the same building as Gateway, uses same members of management as Gateway, and has full access to BetGateway’s player database. SBR has offered to assist
bet4aces in settling delinquent accounts and
bet4aces recently paid one player $60,000 of the $120,000 balance accrued while using BetGateway.com.
2/7/2006 11:14 AM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: bet4aces(SBR rating F-) owner delivers $60,000 cash payment to player who has been owed $120,000 for over five months by
BetGateway(SBR rating F-). Edward, owner of
bet4aces, claims he purchased BetGateway’s facilities and inherited its staff but was unaware of the large debts to players.
Bettors should expect to receive their funds via the listed methods on the sportsbook’s banking page. SBR advises players not to engage in person to person transactions and to stick with sportsbooks who operate professionally and according to their stated procedures.
1/19/2006 02:45 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: BetIsGlobal(SBR rating F-) new sportsbook from the VIPBetZone(SBR rating F-) Group. Past scam books include VipBetZone, BetNowOnline, GoWagers, BetGateway and most recently,
bet4aces(SBR rating F-).
11/28/2005 10:52 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: Three sportsbooks disappear in last two weeks. FirstClassSportsbook(SBR rating F-), BetGateway(SBR rating F) and SSP International(SBR rating F) each decided that their scams have run their course. Players should be aware of reincarnations or sister sites of these phony bookmakers. BetGateway now operates as
bet4aces(SBR rating F-) and is cold calling potential players. FirstClassSportsbook’s sister site, PlayersTime(SBR rating F) steals player’s $19,000 balance. Substantial balances are at high risk. Both books focus their maketing efforts on off-line advertising and on bettors who are less likely to be aware of their unscrupulous actions.
11/19/2005 04:35 PM
bet4aces - SBR initiates coverage at F-, BetGateway downgraded to F-
11/19/2005 02:34 PM
SCAM ALERT: bet4aces is the new website for scambook, BetGateway (SBR rating F-). BetGateway has been off-line for two days and active players are now being asked to log in at
bet4aces and use
bet4aces’ Neteller merchant account. This is the latest scam site from former
VIPBetZone (SBR rating F-) owership.