10/22/2008 11:21 PM
ClicknGamble (SBR rating F), part of the same operation that hosted stiff sportsbooks:
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating F), DragonWager (SBR rating F) and BetCSL (SBR rating F), player complains of no-pay. ClicknGamble is soliciting players who were victims of
Capilleira-serviced sportsbooks. A Victim of
BigJuicyOdds reports being targeted by ClicknGamble.
Player:
I received a call from Joey on september 8, 2008, he first wanted me to post up, then he decided to take 4 of my players plus myself and give us a 1000.00 credit and settle up each tuesday.i agreed and the first week i was +1502.00. He sent the payout on wednesday and i received it thursday. the next week i was up 4820.00 and he said theguy that was backing him (a professional tour poker player) got hit hard and did not want me nor my players action and that he had never stiffed anyone and i would receive my money and he would notifiy me when the package had been sent and give me the tracking number. that has been about a month and one-half. i emailed him about three weeks ago and he again said he would let me know when the package had been sent. i have now emailed him several time and phoned him and he doesn't answer nor respond to me emails. just wanted to let you know so you can warn other players. Email address joeyjeaney@clickngamble.com and joeyjevaney@yahoo.com. phone numbers 1-702-425-5074 and 1-702-499-3093
5/15/2008 06:17 PM
Capilleira Group sportsbooks reach SCAM status
Operation management initially told SBR that they were not responsible for its anonymous licensees. After the closure of the first no-pay book, DragonWager, Capilleira management told SBR it would require its licensees to keep deposits on hand so not to facilitate theft. Capilleira management also told SBR that it would stand for all player balances at two of its brands,
WagerDaily and
Ultimate-Odds. In March a WagerDaily player reported that he was owed $23,364 and the sportsbook was off-line. The player was able to log in to his account through Ultimate-Odds where his balance was still showing as available. Capilleira management initially told the player that it would pay him in installments and take responsibility for the "book owner's" debt.
Capilleira:
I will pay you 10% of the balance starting April 1st and it will be sent by bank wire and this will be adhered to strictly.
Capilleira's owner failed to pay as promised and has avoided the client. WagerDaily reached a peak rating of C- before the first complaint from BetCSL was received. Capilleira-hosted books such as
BetCSL,
DragonWager and
BigJuicyOdds have stiffed players thousands.
4/20/2008 09:51 PM
BetCasinoAndSports, new Capilleira sportsbook, enters the SBR rating Guide at D-
Capilleira closed the majority of its post-up sportsbooks in March following the collapse of
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating F). Capilleira hosted the website and provided wagering and some payment processing for its webmaster client. The turnkey provider left only
Ultimate-Odds (SBR rating D-) online. BetCasinoAndSports is now one of two active
Capilleira books indexed in the SBR rating guide.
3/23/2008 10:16 PM
WagerDaily (SBR rating D-) and sister Capilleira-hosted post-up sportsbooks taken off-line. SBR will monitor payout requests for these labels. Stiff sportsbook
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating F) was the most recent Capilleira turnkey sportsbook to close with player funds.
3/17/2008 01:48 PM
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating F) ownership tells management "the tap has been turned off." BJO off-line
It appears the sportsbook's ownership is refusing to fund the operation and player balances will be stolen. The sportsbook built good will with players after bailing out a group of SBGglobal (SBR rating D-) victims late last year and continued with overly generous offers and incentives. BigJuicyOdds poker players will likely lose over $12,000 as well. SBR will communicate with BJO management as more information is know about the situation.
Update 3:35 PM: BJO poker players previously credited through new third party poker network. Debt to players figured to be much less than amount in free money accounts credited to SBG victims.
SBR was included on and email from BJO management to ownership.
"How many times were you told and asked again and again? We kept on saying to you that you are giving away too much. You can’t give away 100k and expect to get that back in a few weeks. You went from -105 to -103 to even money then back to -103 then bailing out all these players, then onto crazy bonuses. Now you finally have players depositing, we finally convinced you to start setting some limits to bonuses etc, we were gaining the players trust that we worked our *** off to achieve and you pull the plug!!! Did you finally realize the liability of this venture? Did you finally fully understand what it is you are doing? This was asked countless times, always with a reply from you “no worries, I want BJO to be the biggest sportsbook out there.” We had to shut the site down Richard, we simply couldn’t take the chance and allow players to deposit money and not be able to pay them their winnings"
3/17/2008 01:30 PM
BigJuicyOdds downgraded from D+ to F
1/19/2008 11:20 PM
Player vs. Oddsmaker (SBR rating D-) Update
Oddsmaker
originally voided almost $1000 in winnings after the player placed a $5 parlay with promotional funds. Oddsmaker rules state that parlays will not be accepted in connection with these bonus funds but do not address subsequent winning bets. Oddsmaker did state that they would be adding a statement in their rules that would inform future players that a single parlay bet may result in confiscation of other winnings from the bonus. Oddsmaker has since credited the player with $73, the amount won prior to the offending parlay wager.
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) read the SBR complaint report and has given the player a $1,000 free account with a 10x rollover.
1/17/2008 06:03 PM
LazerWager(SBR rating D+) & BigJuicyOdds(SBR rating D+) comment on poor Email Response Test results
BigJuicyOdds tells SBR they are investing in new hardware, will no longer use third party hosting for email, and look forward to being retested.
Lazerwager: "I then did remember that on Jan. 9th thru 10 that our prorgammers told me that our back up server was not recognizing or was filtering some emails specially the ones that were not from the email addresses saved into our data base and we happened to get the update done to the emails servers due to a problem with the emails which is why I am thinking that our customer service clerks never responded to that email. I am sorry to hear that due to this glitch in the system we were graded so badly and I hope that in the next test we will pass with an A+."
1/8/2008 10:11 AM
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) poker network, Dynamic Gaming Solutions (DGS) foldsBJO states that the provider has closed with licensee and player funds. BJO also tells SBR it will be transferring all poker balances to a new network provider, Dobrosoft. The migration of accounts is expected to take three days. Players can also request a payout or a balance credit in the
BigJuicyOdds sportsbook, which is separately operated. Players with other poker brands may be less fortunate. JunglePoker.com is owned by the Dynamic Gaming network and is not expected to settle accounts. G2Gpoker, a poker-only gaming site, has previously stiffed players as part of the Futurebet Gaming network.
12/6/2007 04:33 PM
CyberCasinoClub (SBR rating D-) absorbed by BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+). CyberCasino players should be able to access their accounts at BJO.
11/29/2007 10:13 PM
New sportsbook, BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) processes payouts to SBGglobal (SBR rating D-) victims. BJO has sent the first player to meet a 20 time rollover requirement on bailout funds $9,000 and states he will have withdrawn $25,000 over the course of four days. A second player was paid $2,000 via Western Union. BJO credited over $95,000 to former SBGglobal and
BetRoyal (SBR rating D-) bettors one month ago.
11/5/2007 11:46 PM
BetCSL (SBR rating F) and DragonWager (SBR rating F) victims asked to contact SBR
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) has stated that it intends to cover the balances of stiffed players from these two small sportsbooks. Balance credits are expected to be received next week and, like the
SBGglobal (SBR rating D-) relief offer, will carry a twenty time roll-over requirement without a deposit. BetCSL and DragonWager were both serviced by the same hosting and software company chosen by
BigJuicyOdds. BJO is currently under the microscope as victims from SBG try the new book after accepting a bailout offer.
10/29/2007 07:51 PM
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) credits players scammed by SBGglobal (SBR rating D-) and BetRoyal (SBR rating D-). Players who have yet to be credited with "bailout" money must
contact SBR to verify or correct SBG/
BetRoyal balance and account information. Confiscated winnings are expected to total slightly below $100,000.
10/25/2007 02:48 PM
BigJuicyOdds offering bailout to SBG Global and BetRoyal Victims
BigJuicyOdds (SBR rating D+) states it will credit players for winnings confiscated by
SBG Global (SBR rating D-) and
BetRoyal (SBR rating D-) without requiring a deposit. A 20x roll-over (balance must be played-through twenty times) will be required before withdrawals can be requested. Players who elect to accept the offer must
contact SBR. BJO expects accounts to be credited before the end of the week.
BigJuicyOdds is a new sportsbook using Capilleira software and sportsbook hosting services. Capilleira-hosted sportsbooks were rated as high as C- in 2006. All Capilleira-based books were downgraded due to a lack of safeguards for players by Capilleira management. Capilleira blamed anonymous principals behind both BetCSL (SBR rating D-) and DragonWager (SBR rating D-) for inability to pay players. BigJuicyOdds tells SportsbookReview it also intends to absorb balances from these sportsbooks next week. BJO will be reevaluated following feedback from former CSL, DragonWager and SBG customers.
10/24/2007 04:31 PM
BigJuicyOdds upgraded from D- to D+
9/10/2007 08:31 PM
BigJuicyOdds - SBR initiates coverage at D-
9/10/2007 08:24 PM
BigJuicyOdds enters the SBR Rating Guide at D-
Both books are operated by Capilleira’s sportsbook service. BetCSL (SBR rating F) and DragonWager (SBR rating F) also utilized the same operation. Both have stiffed players within the past year. DragonWager is now off-line while BetCSL remains and offers new deposit bonuses.