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    Court 1 at Roland Garros

    Also known as the bullring.I wonder if its profitable to bet all overs on this court with every match played both ATP and WTA.My reasoning is that there is very little space to chase balls here.Just curious on seeing how this would play out.Four matches tommorrow.Lets see how this goes..

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    love the irrepressible effort to turn interesting observations into bet-worthy angles

    i'm on (with hi-interest/small-stakes) whatever experiment you devise


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    Kyrios cecchianato over 30
    Isner milkman over 38
    Kuzzy schvedova over 19.5
    Pliskova.Rodgers over 19.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Kyrios cecchianato over 30
    Isner milkman over 38
    Kuzzy schvedova over 19.5
    Pliskova.Rodgers over 19.5
    Kyrgios match then
    Kuznetsova match then
    Pliskova vs Rogers then
    Isner match

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    Kyrgios will be on and off the court like a cold shower. I don't think it's sunk in with most that he is a top 10 player right now, arguably top 5.

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    Nice call on the first one bud!

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    Kuzzy match going to cash too when it resumes.With the weather today the other two matches may be moved to other courts..Will see

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    Dammit rain..
    Cancel Isner match as its been moved and rogers match..moved too

    2-0 so far..Kuzzy will be winner

    Adding Chardy/mayer over 40
    Benneateau Pouille over 33
    Tsurenko Garcia over 20
    Svitolina Cirstea over 21

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    what is the reasoning that the size of the court is related to going over? not trying to be whatever but wondering if there is any thougth behind this, before i put money on it. thanks.

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    Sure man. My theory is that the crowd is right on top of the players with very little room to return balls.I would think it would tend to lead to more rallies which on clay anyway there is more.Coupled with the slow courts at RG anyway kind of cuts down the percentage of players to run away with matches on this court. Over the course of many matches compared to other courts one might gain an advantage on totals. Kind of like the green monster at Fenway or say the wind blowing out stiffly at Wrigley.

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    this is one of the strangest but very fresh new angles Ive ever heard gambling wise.

    hats off to the concept.

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    There's nothing to see here. Cecchinato has a killer one handed shot that played well today. I've seen the guy in person and he's capable of going far at RG in the right draw, not his year. Every side court has less room (some have far less) at these tournaments. I'd be willing to bet that there are side courts at RG with less room on the sides and the baseline than the bullring. Whole facility is a big relic.

    While I don't buy this angle for a second, I do think that some courts have such a unique character where it drastically effects one players performance. Depends on the court and depends on the player. This kind of thing, like the weather thing, are not efficient ways of handicapping these matches.
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    4-1..Counting pouille as a winner..

    Svitloina and cirstea moverd..so cancel

    Tommorrow..(hopefully no delays and all bullring matches go!!)

    1.Pospisil birdshit over 30.5
    2.Williams kontaevit over 19
    3.knapp aza brat..over 16.5
    4.Goffin Barrere over 26

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    this is one of the strangest but very fresh new angles Ive ever heard gambling wise.

    hats off to the concept.
    Thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don West View Post
    There's nothing to see here. Cecchinato has a killer one handed shot that played well today. I've seen the guy in person and he's capable of going far at RG in the right draw, not his year. Every side court has less room (some have far less) at these tournaments. I'd be willing to bet that there are side courts at RG with less room on the sides and the baseline than the bullring. Whole facility is a big relic.

    While I don't buy this angle for a second, I do think that some courts have such a unique character where it drastically effects one players performance. Depends on the court and depends on the player. This kind of thing, like the weather thing, are not efficient ways of handicapping these matches.
    Valid points..Lets see how it goes!!

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    Nice calls beef..Best of luck! Looking forward to some your insight on any dogs!

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    5-2 and a push..Or might as well call it a winner.Aza retired but it was already over..So 6-2..goffin match got moved

    Wednesday..simon pella over 37.5
    Nishi kuznetsov over 32
    Golubic safarova over 20
    Cepede royog Stephens over 19.5

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    I'm curious what is the overall o/u at this RG so far. It seems like the conditions are helping the overs, well does not help me , but I am seeing a lot of overs on the board.

    But regardless, nice thread.

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    when you speak of "court 1" are you speaking of Center Court or the actual Court One? which I classify as either a stadium court or a grounds court based upon attendance

    set specifics & I'll look it up

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    I filter buy Center Courts, Stadium Court and all grounds Courts

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    and do you want it built argued just against Roland Garros or all Clay? maybe all red clay? eliminating USA green clay) should it include Indoor Clay? (the Germany event) do you want this filtered by grain density? ETC

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    since elevations are different from Germany to Paris (Paris is lower) I can also back filter against that if you want

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    Just court 1.The bullring.Only at RG.

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    8-4 so far

    Thur..
    Nara Ivanavic over 19
    Razzano over 20
    Mathieu over 33.5
    Ferrero over 35

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    thats an interesting angle beefcake, I'll build a formula for that in my work, for all events

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    One push..one loss two wins

    10-5😁

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    Friday...
    Raonic..Martin over 28.5
    Nishi ...Nando over 34
    Pironkova..Stevens..over 20.5

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    Interesting! I will be rooting for a tie break in this early match for you!

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    Lol, I fukkin love this. Im on board.

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    Early winner!!..Lets hit the three teamer!!

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    Another angle to this is not just the close court and lack of space for rallies.Of course you could argue that less space for rallies would cause unders as points would be quicker.But the crowd is right on top of the players but smaller than chatrier or lenglen.So the adrenaline is more for the players here with raucous crowds.Players have even said they like the more intimate setting than the other two mentioned above as they are more intimadating.Of course throw in a crowd favorite or a frenchman and it gets even more amped.Also I think betting tiebreak in match would be a possibly solid play over time with the above mentioned intangibles.

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    just dropped 50 on it, lets go 3 sets!

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    12-6..Four games on Sat

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    Ferrer Lopez over 34.5
    Cuevas birdshit over 39.5
    Bergen's kasatkina over 21
    Svitolina Ivanovich over 21

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    Ana come on you pretty face

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