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    Two underdogs that have value Konjuh (women) and Zverev (men)

    Two young players playing today. First is Zverer (Ger) vs Ferrer (Esp) in Hamburg and 2nd is Konjuh (Cro) vs Vinci (Ita) in Istanbul. Both seem automatic fade versus their respective counterpart but will back on of them today. Konjuh played solid tennis in her game yesterday in Istanbul and she already played once versus Vinci in the WTA Auckland.

    The odds on Zverer vs Ferrer look like a lopsided affair. I wouldn't even consider to place anything on Ferrer at 1.11 Zverev is at 5.00. I would take make chances her with him for a upset.

    Konjuh vs Vinci is a rematch (kind of a revenge game for Auckland) for Vinci so I would expect her to bring her A-game today versus a 16 year old. GLTA.

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    I know that Ferrer is the world's number 6 in the rankings and that he won his last game 6-0 and 6-2 vs his countrymate Andujar. I take my chances for the upset here. GL.

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    Not sure they hold value. They may easily outclassed today even though Vinci lost once to Konjuh on concrete. But Vinci was on a huge losing streak that period. She plays with mind and thats what Konjuh havent witnessed this week, she played against auto-returners.

    Ferrer may pass the kid like a bulldozer too. If I had to make a Zverev bet I would take 2-1 @10+ish odds

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    Even when Ferrer beats him easily I wouldn't take that on the odds that are out right now, not even Ferrer winning 2-0. These two want to make a name for themselves, I see it a bold risk-venture backing both of them. I usually I don't take underdogs this big but in tennis underdog and favorite has to be viewed a bit differently.

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    over 19.5 games

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    i like the + games for both of the dogs

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    Both ML losers, unfortunately

    Like I said now she is playing with someone who has a brain

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    My concern is this Vinci can trouble Wozniacki. I gave a long thought before taking Woz outright @1.66 and dismissed Vinci outright @3.75.

    Slices are sometimes a weakness on concrete but with Woz sometimes losing her mind, that can be tight final if happens

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    Anyone have a working stream of the Vinci match?

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    I am watching on TV. But this channel has a streaming site too.

    Enjoy

    http://www.sportstv.com.tr/canli-yayin/
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    Was hoping to get 10.00 on Konjuh, shite!

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    I like Vinci's

    Legs and ass also looks good. All you need is a grocery bag

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManeOnFire View Post
    Was hoping to get 10.00 on Konjuh, shite!
    Put your 10.00 on Kravchuk ML

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    Kravchuk ML 4.25

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    Upset wont happen unless Ferrer gets injured but because of the crazy odds the play is still Zverev.

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    Very respectable set. Nice and full.
    Quote Originally Posted by kenz View Post
    I like Vinci's

    Legs and ass also looks good. All you need is a grocery bag

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    U never know with Ferrer... I've seen shit performances now and again from him... I just need +1.5sets zverev

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    Konjuh has a very good chance to win even though Vinci is serving for the set.

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    Konjuh beat Vinci on concrete from 0-1 this year. But different tourney, different spot( fighting for final) and better Vinci.

    Other than that konjuh is fighting well

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManeOnFire View Post
    Konjuh has a very good chance to win even though Vinci is serving for the set.
    prefer konjuh to vinci lol

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    Cappin they are wearing exact same dress, how can you go wrong here

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Upset wont happen unless Ferrer gets injured but because of the crazy odds the play is still Zverev.
    Thats if you had to choose a side, my only bet is small on the under 20.
    Last edited by jtoler; 07-19-14 at 11:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenz View Post
    Cappin they are wearing exact same dress, how can you go wrong here
    Do you have a link? Mine not working.

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    embarrassing thread is embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBlue77 View Post
    embarrassing thread is embarrassing.
    useless post is useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Do you have a link? Mine not working.
    Sorry did not check back here. If you want to watch Woz-Mladenovic same channel's link

    http://www.sportstv.com.tr/canli-yayin/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenz View Post
    Sorry did not check back here. If you want to watch Woz-Mladenovic same channel's link

    http://www.sportstv.com.tr/canli-yayin/
    Thanks, this one here is actually better bro. http://www.frombar.com/20140714/vv53...67-849464.html

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