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    5dimes refused $400 BTC payout asking for ID/utility

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    What you describe is 100% normal and justified.

    Particularly with scumbags around trying to hack into accounts specifically to request untraceable/irreversible btc payments.
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    I think you're gonna have to send it to em. This is a pretty typical request from sportsbooks I think.

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    By the way I got ******* payout $180 recently, nothing changed in my account since than, they did not ask for ID that time, obviously they are trying to frustrate me to the point that i will give up and they keep the money
    Filed complaint with SBR, hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    By the way I got ******* payout $180 recently, nothing changed in my account since than, they did not ask for ID that time, obviously they are trying to frustrate me to the point that i will give up and they keep the money
    Filed complaint with SBR, hope that helps
    They do not have any history of trying to frustrate people to make them give up on trying to withdraw. Ever. And this is quite normal in the current environment.

    You don't need to submit a complaint. You just need to give them the ID they want or ask them to pay you via another method where they don't want that info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    ...You just need to give them the ID they want or ask them to pay you via another method where they don't want that info.
    thats the first thing i did ask them to allow payout via any other method, they refused, i guess you have not read my post before deleting it
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    Considering how fast SBR moderator deleted my post i am not getting any help here

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    Did u take a bonus?

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    yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    Considering how fast SBR moderator deleted my post i am not getting any help here
    You will get help if you need it. SBR admin will assess that. I just don't think you need any help personally.

    If they are insisting on the ID no matter what payout maybe they have some reason to double check it really is you. Maybe as simple as you have a new device or IP.

    It's good that they are very careful with btc payouts. You would be much madder if someone got your login info and made the withdrawal without them checking properly. I'm sure you would be asking them to cover the loss the loss in that case? If so, try to look at the KYC process as something good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    You will get help if you need it. SBR admin will assess that. I just don't think you need any help personally.

    If they are insisting on the ID no matter what payout maybe they have some reason to double check it really is you. Maybe as simple as you have a new device or IP.

    It's good that they are very careful with btc payouts. You would be much madder if someone got your login info and made the withdrawal without them checking properly. I'm sure you would be asking them to cover the loss the loss in that case? If so, try to look at the KYC process as something good for you.
    you are trying very hard to find an excuse for 5dimes, if you did not delete my original post you would see that there is no reason for security audit
    Its OK I understand 5dimes bought SBR 10 times over, you got to serve your masters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnythunder View Post
    Did u take a bonus?
    No did not take any bonus

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    Has 5D got any documents from you before?

    If not, don't be surprised verification is requested. Other methods like e-wallets are inherently more secure because you can't use them (extensively anyway) without getting verified. If you first deposited and withdrew with S.... or N...... and now deposited BTC, ran it up and want a withdrawal, I would expect 5D to either trust that you were properly verified by either of those two e-wallets and just send your BTC, OR assume nothing and protect you and itself against hackers and first make sure it's actually you asking for the withdrawal.

    Either course of action is acceptable in my view. It's good to be anonymous but only until you get fukked over by really bad guys. What do you have to hide anyway?

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    send in the information they want to get your money. there is really no other choice. this could happen at any sportsbook. once they ask for more information questioning anything about the procedure just makes you look more suspicious. good luck

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    We are talking about offshore sportsbook which is conducting illegal business by taking wagers from USA residents, its like Colombian drug cartel needs to see your ID because KYC and AML
    In my original post which was promptly deleted by moderator i described why i am so reluctant to submit scan of ID, i was victim of identity fraud and it cost me alot of money wasted time and aggrevation
    I am not confident in 5dimes ability to keep my information safe
    Anyways I got it, i am not getting any help or understanding here, at least i didnt spend $100 on BS Pro membership

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    i think the people here are trying to be understanding. but some of us realize that this sort of thing comes up once in a while when you are dealing with offshore gambling. each sportsbook makes up their own rules and we have no choice but to do what they want when ever they want in order to get our money. it does suck. over the years i have sent in id's more than once to the same place. i don't use any cc for deposits but still they ask once in a while. like i said it sucks. just 1 of the many things i don't like doing that i do so i can gamble offshore. i have been slowly taking out all my funds from every sportsbook. i am sick of the problems moving money. when i started a couple of clicks and a couple of minutes was all you needed to deposit or withdraw. now, it just sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    i think the people here are trying to be understanding. but some of us realize that this sort of thing comes up once in a while when you are dealing with offshore gambling. each sportsbook makes up their own rules and we have no choice but to do what they want when ever they want in order to get our money. it does suck. over the years i have sent in id's more than once to the same place. i don't use any cc for deposits but still they ask once in a while. like i said it sucks. just 1 of the many things i don't like doing that i do so i can gamble offshore. i have been slowly taking out all my funds from every sportsbook. i am sick of the problems moving money. when i started a couple of clicks and a couple of minutes was all you needed to deposit or withdraw. now, it just sucks.
    We do have choice now, BTC books like NitrogenSports get your funds in and out in minutes no ID required
    I think 5dimes is losing business to new more advanced cryptocurrency sportsbooks, thats why their try to steal every penny from existing customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    We do have choice now, BTC books like NitrogenSports get your funds in and out in minutes no ID required
    I think 5dimes is losing business to new more advanced cryptocurrency sportsbooks, thats why their try to steal every penny from existing customers
    No, it's just they don't like mickey mouse clients. They don't care about your pennies, believe you me.

    To use your own clever metaphor, you are like the guy who plays street ball for money and gets into a game with a local drug lord who makes up rules as he goes. Some people just don't like to lose and if you don't like it, beat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    We are talking about offshore sportsbook which is conducting illegal business by taking wagers from USA residents, its like Colombian drug cartel needs to see your ID because KYC and AML
    It's a very common practice. I don't think anyone who has provided an ID for proof has been hunted down like El Chapo.

    Your tone and reluctance to provide the information is starting to sound very suspect. There is a difference between being concerned and to start saying "well why should I what they do is illegal in the U.S."


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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    you are trying very hard to find an excuse for 5dimes, if you did not delete my original post you would see that there is no reason for security audit
    Its OK I understand 5dimes bought SBR 10 times over, you got to serve your masters
    It's funny when an idiot like you comes along and demonstrates so clearly how obnoxious prats are able to cause themselves trouble with books over simple things.

    You should get onto live chat and ask for the boss Tony and tell him about your complaint. You certainly deserve his help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    It's funny when an idiot like you comes along and demonstrates so clearly how obnoxious prats are able to cause themselves trouble with books over simple things.

    You should get onto live chat and ask for the boss Tony and tell him about your complaint. You certainly deserve his help.
    Personal insult as an argument from SBR moderator? Thats how low SBR standarts are now days?
    Good boy Optional, your masters will reward you properly, keep up good work, if anyone else complains about 5dimes start barking immediately huff-huff-huff
    By the way i am making screenshots of this, deleting my posts wont do much good

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    Personal insult as an argument from SBR moderator? Thats how low SBR standarts are now days?
    Good boy Optional, your masters will reward you properly, keep up good work, if anyone else complains about 5dimes start barking immediately huff-huff-huff
    By the way i am making screenshots of this, deleting my posts wont do much good
    ooooh so scary!

    None of your posts apart from the first clearly marked one have been deleted.


    have you spoken to Tony yet? Or sent in the ID? Or maybe you really are just a scammer who thinks coming on here and stamping your feet and making stupid allegations will somehow get you paid anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    ooooh so scary!

    None of your posts apart from the first clearly marked one have been deleted.


    have you spoken to Tony yet? Or sent in the ID? Or maybe you really are just a scammer who thinks coming on here and stamping your feet and making stupid allegations will somehow get you paid anyway?
    You really did not read my original post did you? I made $100 ******* deposit which i paid for with cash in local DollarGeneral near my residence, submitted pics of ***********, thats all money i had in my account before i got lucky with NBA wagers and run $100 up to $900, how is that a scamming? Over the years I did deposit and lost over $3K at 5dimes this was my first lucky month so i thought i can finally get some money back
    I will get to chat with Tony and will deal with 5dimes on my own since i dont get any help here dont you worry about that i dont need you to tell me what to do
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    Well im not a mod.......I think you are just a crying little bitch who's lying, how about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    You really did not read my original post did you? I made $100 amazon gift card deposit which i paid for with cash in local DollarGeneral near my residence, submitted pics of receipt and amazon card front and back, thats all money i had in my account before i got lucky with NBA wagers and run $100 up to $900, how is that a scamming? Over the years I did deposit and lost over $3K at 5dimes this was my first lucky month so i thought i can finally get some money back
    I will get to chat with Tony and will deal with 5dimes on my own since i dont get any help here dont you worry about that i dont need you to tell me what to do

    Please post the live chat transcript you have with Tony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    Please post the live chat transcript you have with Tony.
    Reasonable request, will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    Please post the live chat transcript you have with Tony.
    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    Reasonable request, will do
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    5Dimes is one of my favorite sportsbooks .If you want your money then follow the rules .If not then just continue what your doing ,I find your complaining very entertaining .

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    Considering how fast SBR moderator deleted my post i am not getting any help here
    This is the MO of this website. You complain about 5 dimes, they immediately jump in to back up their advertiser/partner 5 Dimes. They cannot be impartial. That's why true watchdogs shouldn't accept dollars from sportsbooks ( which SBR originally said they would NEVER do, before going back on their word. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    send in the information they want to get your money. there is really no other choice. this could happen at any sportsbook. once they ask for more information questioning anything about the procedure just makes you look more suspicious. good luck
    I don't agree. There are other ways to validate its the right person. I have had sportsbooks try the " you have to fax us your id and utility" even when I had a ** withdrawal request. Whats the point ? I need ID to pick up the cash at **. So I will verify my identity at that time. This is just a stall tactic hoping the guy loses the money in the meantime. I have never had a sportsbook ask for shit when I am depositing and I have never had some mysterious ghost hack into my account and guess my password, account number, personal questions, email, etc and withdraw all my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    You really did not read my original post did you? I made $100 ******* deposit which i paid for with cash in local DollarGeneral near my residence, submitted pics of ***********, thats all money i had in my account before i got lucky with NBA wagers and run $100 up to $900, how is that a scamming? Over the years I did deposit and lost over $3K at 5dimes this was my first lucky month so i thought i can finally get some money back
    I will get to chat with Tony and will deal with 5dimes on my own since i dont get any help here dont you worry about that i dont need you to tell me what to do
    I don't think you are a scammer. Just being a bit silly. You will be paid assuming you are a regular punter and your ID checks out.

    There really is no good use going to Tony. He is just going to tell you you need to provide the info too.

    None of us like giving any book ID really but we all should know we do have to sometimes.

    (and please don't post specifics of your payment methods and transactions. See the FAQ term in post #1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDR View Post
    You really did not read my original post did you? I made $100 ******* deposit which i paid for with cash in local DollarGeneral near my residence, submitted pics of ***********, thats all money i had in my account before i got lucky with NBA wagers and run $100 up to $900, how is that a scamming? Over the years I did deposit and lost over $3K at 5dimes this was my first lucky month so i thought i can finally get some money back
    I will get to chat with Tony and will deal with 5dimes on my own since i dont get any help here dont you worry about that i dont need you to tell me what to do
    LOL. They don't worry about you verifying your identity when you are depositing and losing $3000. LOL. Only when you want to get back a small bit of it. Yes if what you say is true, that you have lost $3k, they are definitely doing this just to give you time and hope you lose more. At least you know in the future, if you have a 5 dimes complaint this isn't the place to come. Its always been that way, you complain about a non advertiser you will get every benefit of every possible doubt. You complain about 5 dimes you are a low down, thieving, scammer, lying, POS, worthless dog. When SBR first started out years ago, they promised they would never accept sportsbook money and the claimed they were the only true watchdog because all the others took sportsbook money and therefore could not be impartial. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeahMichele View Post
    LOL. They don't worry about you verifying your identity when you are depositing and losing $3000. LOL. Only when you want to get back a small bit of it. Yes if what you say is true, that you have lost $3k, they are definitely doing this just to give you time and hope you lose more. At least you know in the future, if you have a 5 dimes complaint this isn't the place to come. Its always been that way, you complain about a non advertiser you will get every benefit of every possible doubt. You complain about 5 dimes you are a low down, thieving, scammer, lying, POS, worthless dog. When SBR first started out years ago, they promised they would never accept sportsbook money and the claimed they were the only true watchdog because all the others took sportsbook money and therefore could not be impartial. lol.
    I disagree. I couldn't care less about non-advertisers because frankly there aren't many books I'd be willing to trust my money that aren't already an SBR sponsor one way or another.

    But while I'm very unhappy with how verify winners 5 times over and look the other way when a losing player puts his money in, I accept the fact there would be no online gambling industry - and possibly no online industry of any kind - unless certain security standards are adhered to.

    So back to my original question...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grivas_Digeni View Post
    Has 5D got any documents from you before?
    As in personal documents. I read the part about pic of a..... GC but you (conveniently?) keep avoiding the question about ID of the account holder. I'm prepared to quickly switch sides and start blasting 5Dimes for over-verifying if they, in fact, have your personal information already. If not... everything I posted here is still good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeahMichele View Post
    LOL. They don't worry about you verifying your identity when you are depositing and losing $3000. LOL. Only when you want to get back a small bit of it. Yes if what you say is true, that you have lost $3k, they are definitely doing this just to give you time and hope you lose more. At least you know in the future, if you have a 5 dimes complaint this isn't the place to come. Its always been that way, you complain about a non advertiser you will get every benefit of every possible doubt. You complain about 5 dimes you are a low down, thieving, scammer, lying, POS, worthless dog. When SBR first started out years ago, they promised they would never accept sportsbook money and the claimed they were the only true watchdog because all the others took sportsbook money and therefore could not be impartial. lol.
    This makes me sick to my stomach. It needs to be dealt with. The problem is however that verifying everyone who deposits any substantial amount, would take man hours. And those expenses will end up being taken out of players' pockets sooner or later (withdrawal fees, higher big etc)

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