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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    I talked with RDG. Was told they are "backing' 1Vice. Said money there was good and they would meet payouts until 1Vice is "back on its feet."

    Griffin remaining in charge and everything staying the same except for RDG acting as a "Big Brother." No changes other than RDG processing payouts.

    Proceed accordingly.

    Thank you

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    Let's see what happens after the Super Bowl you play there now your nuts! Got a text today asking for a 2500 deposit no problem right away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    I talked with RDG. Was told they are "backing' 1Vice. Said money there was good and they would meet payouts until 1Vice is "back on its feet."

    Griffin remaining in charge and everything staying the same except for RDG acting as a "Big Brother." No changes other than RDG processing payouts.

    Proceed accordingly.
    did you talk to robbie? if not, then who?

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    exchange your bonus points now if you got any- just in case. just got $250- 40,000 pts.

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    Yeah I've been a big supporter of 1vice but I can't even deposit there until this gets ironed out. I hope everyone gets paid and its business as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    did you talk to robbie? if not, then who?
    Not Robbie. Don't want to say since they would probably prefer not to be named. A person in position to know.

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    I wouldn't take that to the bank. I'll be from Missouri on this one

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    Too lazy to read through 5 pages. I got a decent amount of money tied up with them right now. Can someone summarize what's going on with them and wtf is RDG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    ... Can someone summarize what's going on with them and wtf is RDG?
    Summary: you don't want to have your money tied up with neither 1vice nor RDG. And if you ever get paid, think of it as a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tradeout View Post
    Summary: you don't want to have your money tied up with neither 1vice nor RDG. And if you ever get paid, think of it as a bonus.
    I'd be careful in casting the net too wide. There's no reason to think RDG books are having trouble. I've been trying to get my money out of 1vice for sometime now and I got to the point yesterday where I could only conclude I was being punked by 1vice and filed my sbr complaint. I'd suggest contacting 1vice and then making a call for yourself as to whether you can trust 1vice to deliver without sbr intervention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Too lazy to read through 5 pages. I got a decent amount of money tied up with them right now. Can someone summarize what's going on with them and wtf is RDG?
    1Vice Sportsbook was reassumed by RDG Corp (the company behind Bet33, Americas Bookie, and other sites) following the Super Bowl. 1Vice was previously under this family of sportsbooks. The migration was performed Tuesday night. Let us know if you have any problems getting paid or accessing your account.

    Read more here: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/1vice/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Forum View Post
    1Vice Sportsbook was reassumed by RDG Corp (the company behind Bet33, Americas Bookie, and other sites) following the Super Bowl. 1Vice was previously under this family of sportsbooks. The migration was performed Tuesday night. Let us know if you have any problems getting paid or accessing your account.

    Read more here: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/1vice/
    Is joining RDG a good or bad thing for 1vice customers? Doesn't matter I can't take money out until I complete this RO. Probably got another 2 weeks or so of RO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Is joining RDG a good or bad thing for 1vice customers? Doesn't matter I can't take money out until I complete this RO. Probably got another 2 weeks or so of RO.
    Wrong people to ask. They rate 1Vice C and Americas Bookie D+.

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    Edit by SBR: Your complaint from this afternoon has been responded to.

    I still have not been paid. Contacted SBR with no response yet.
    Last edited by SBR Forum; 02-11-16 at 03:57 PM. Reason: added update

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Is joining RDG a good or bad thing for 1vice customers? Doesn't matter I can't take money out until I complete this RO. Probably got another 2 weeks or so of RO.
    RDG has more history behind them, not all of it good, which is why their ratings are where they're at.

    We've started to receive some reports from players who have fallen into the "wise guy bucket" and have been getting the runaround. The more information we have from you guys, the better. Please file a complaint if you think 1Vice is not being transparent with you on when your balance is being paid if you are no longer welcomed to play with them.

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    Would not give these people a dime right now

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    You would have to be a mental case to deposit there!!

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    Yeah, I really liked 1vice when I played there but cashed out before the poop hit the fan. I don't see how anyone can deposit there without the sharp players being paid. Again, I really enjoyed 1vice and hope they make good. They always treated me well but I was also not part of the NBA promo.

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    Yes i also had good experiences with 1 vice they paid me one time faster then i ever got paid! But that was then and this business is where are you know and they can not be trusted now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    I talked with RDG. Was told they are "backing' 1Vice. Said money there was good and they would meet payouts until 1Vice is "back on its feet."

    Griffin remaining in charge and everything staying the same except for RDG acting as a "Big Brother." No changes other than RDG processing payouts.

    Proceed accordingly.
    seems like payouts aren't being processed like your contact said they would

    some get the message that they need another 10x rollover, others appear to be getting stiffed entirely

    Thank you for being patient while we transitioned to our new software solution, and upgraded our business model.
    We have done our best to accommodate all the accounts we transferred. We were able to have your account assumed with a situation of a 10x rollover of your current balance before a cash out can be requested.
    Feel free to contact me personalty, if you have any questions.
    Griffin

    Thank you for being patient while we transitioned to our new software solution, and upgraded our business model.
    We have done our best to accommodate all accounts. Unfortunately we were unable to have your account assumed because your style of play does NOT meet our new business model.

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    Getting interesting for sure. Not really a contact. I just called up and talked to RDG management. People assumed I had some kind of inside info.

    If they stiff the "sharps" here, I will post my full conversation almost word-for-word. Not that it will do any good but will show what kind of outfit RDG is.

    One way or the other, the only person coming out whole in this appears to be Griffin and Robert Zachary. Can't believe they just helped themselves to 50% of 1Vice assets. That is some brazen stuff going down. And best of all, they are going to get thanked for being stand up guys. Good deal if you can get it.

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    why is 1vice still rated C?

    come on sbr

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    Posted this in the other thread and will post it here as well--

    A+ book. They paid me out 15k+ last year. So far this year (2016), they have paid me 5k. After two $500 p2p, I requested a 3k payout. After almost exactly 30 days as promised, I received my 3k today.

    Great bonus book. Good communication from my experience. And they absolutely 100% pay. You sacrifice reduced juice for the big bonuses. So if you are ok with that, it's the best book out there (and I have been around while and have used most of the larger ones and even a lot of the smaller ones)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Posted this in the other thread and will post it here as well--

    A+ book. They paid me out 15k+ last year. So far this year (2016), they have paid me 5k. After two $500 p2p, I requested a 3k payout. After almost exactly 30 days as promised, I received my 3k today.

    Great bonus book. Good communication from my experience. And they absolutely 100% pay. You sacrifice reduced juice for the big bonuses. So if you are ok with that, it's the best book out there (and I have been around while and have used most of the larger ones and even a lot of the smaller ones)

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    Downgraded to D+

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Posted this in the other thread and will post it here as well--

    A+ book. They paid me out 15k+ last year. So far this year (2016), they have paid me 5k. After two $500 p2p, I requested a 3k payout. After almost exactly 30 days as promised, I received my 3k today.

    Great bonus book. Good communication from my experience. And they absolutely 100% pay. You sacrifice reduced juice for the big bonuses. So if you are ok with that, it's the best book out there (and I have been around while and have used most of the larger ones and even a lot of the smaller ones)
    No one believes this. They would have booted you a long time ago

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    After speaking with Griffin today (my first time I think speaking with him), I can assure that he is genuine and well-intentioned person.
    I think that there were definitely some bonus abusers (people making fake accounts etc.) that has made the wound much bigger than expected. They had offered great promos prior to this NBA one and paid out every time.
    I believe everyone will get paid eventually and rollovers are standard when there is a bail out like situation.

    This is no betislands operation, that many claim SBR helped promote. It is very easy to shut it down and Griffin has shown integrity as he is still there and contactable and I think relatively soon 1vice will be paying out like clockwork and thriving again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winner_13 View Post
    After speaking with Griffin today (my first time I think speaking with him), I can assure that he is genuine and well-intentioned person.
    I think that there were definitely some bonus abusers (people making fake accounts etc.) that has made the wound much bigger than expected. They had offered great promos prior to this NBA one and paid out every time.
    I believe everyone will get paid eventually and rollovers are standard when there is a bail out like situation.

    This is no betislands operation, that many claim SBR helped promote. It is very easy to shut it down and Griffin has shown integrity as he is still there and contactable and I think relatively soon 1vice will be paying out like clockwork and thriving again.
    Griffin couldn't run a Burger King

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    I got a bad feeling on this one,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Posted this in the other thread and will post it here as well--

    A+ book. They paid me out 15k+ last year. So far this year (2016), they have paid me 5k. After two $500 p2p, I requested a 3k payout. After almost exactly 30 days as promised, I received my 3k today.

    Great bonus book. Good communication from my experience. And they absolutely 100% pay. You sacrifice reduced juice for the big bonuses. So if you are ok with that, it's the best book out there (and I have been around while and have used most of the larger ones and even a lot of the smaller ones)
    How can you read this thread then come in here and post that? This sh!t book kicks people out instantly when they beat them (and they have made this well known) but they let you beat them for 15k and said what the hell he seems nice, so we will alow him but noone else?
    You say A+ book then SBR downgrades to D+. Guess ur BS story did not impress the brass here.
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    He just trying to fish people in to a response like the one you have given

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    Here's the point to understand in this situation. I want to make this point clear because it does not seem that 1Vice and RDG understand it and SBR needs to understand it since they are going to have final say on this deal more or less.

    THIS IS NOT A BAILOUT. When Griffin says he just decided to make a deal with RDG that is technically true.

    RDG has decided voluntarily to take ownership in 1Vice and is not changing the ownership structure except for them taking the minority position.

    The only way balances can be reduced here via rollover is if the ownership structure is dissolved and RDG becomes sole owner of the business.The shareholders have to be wiped out.

    If Chase buys a position in your local bank, they do not get reduce your balance to pay for it.

    RDG has provided needed cash in return for ownership. They made a business decision to be a part of 1Vice. They cannot reduce balances. They cannot require rollovers. Should have thought of that before you bought in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookie View Post
    Any failed sportsbook is a black eye on the industry, and having been involved in one myself years ago, I feel that sportsbook operators should try and help when they can.

    Sites like SBR do a great job, exposing alot scam operations, I may not alway see eye to eye on the rating formula, but they are allot better then what I see at sites like TheRX and EOG.

    Z
    There's the money quote from the Big Enchilada in this deal. If you don't want a blackeye on the industry, you step up and take responsibility for your business decisions and treat this like a legit business transaction and not a scam sportsbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Nickle View Post
    There's the money quote from the Big Enchilada in this deal. If you don't want a blackeye on the industry, you step up and take responsibility for your business decisions and treat this like a legit business transaction and not a scam sportsbook.
    Interesting, but not of concern, whatever business deal they do concerns me ONLY if someone DOES NOT GET PAID. funny thing is I have seen two people here say they have been without problem, dlunc and Aortega.
    So what I can learn is ONLY TWO people have been paid thus far? Again this does not sound right.
    I have always been paid but have not requested this month as I thought let the dust settle why not, if they are transitioningsomething let them do it, I will get mine in a while. I like action every night so NBA starts again today I am in no hurry for money.
    Nickle we have spoke of this before and understand you hold a balance and like me are not concerned as no hurry on the money.
    I would like to hear from courtesySNIPE, alcapone, dark star, sean rachel. ALL BASHING away for some other agenda,
    My bet with you nickle is they DO NOT hold any balance in the situation yet believe their voice or opinion is worth something.

    I have always been super duper pissed at these fools chimming in where they do not belong, however in this one when I have a balance a book in topic, I seriously dislike the negative bashers who do not have one penny involved.

    However you mention sbr involved, how is this. The can discuss and mention stuff and be a go between I understand but twisting words "scam operation" would be considered out of context from the quote.
    I read it that sbr does a good job exposing and protecting from other outfits, that does not mean this is or has been any kind of scam.
    I made the call last night and then got called back. had a twenty minute conversation, nothing to ring bells about, nothing to report,
    everything seems ok to me. I wish them all the best in the transition.
    when I request a payout maybe looking at march 5th approx I will update you
    In the mean time, I am glad they have made a "BUSINESS MOVE" and there has been no run away and steal money.
    again I have to ask there has to be more than two people who have been paid.
    and if the nego nellies keep thrashing and bashing , it would be obvious some other outfit is paying them to post or free plays are being handed out.
    so come on bash folk dont be BASH-FUL lets hear it how much are you owed, seriously whats your balance and whats the issue?

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    DON"T CALL IT A COMEBACK LLCOOLJ!!!!

    That is true. But it concerns us one and all. You can't just be in this for yourself and get paid out of other people's funds.

    Just making this point Truthy because 1Vice is trying to screw people like our friend Downsouth out of half of his balance. They are doing this despite the fact that Griffin invited him into the book to come back. They are doing it despite the fact that he has provided very valuable documentation of payouts as a respected poster on this site.

    RDG has given money to have Downsouth paid in full. If he is not paid in full, he has a complaint to make and SBR has to rule in his favor and if it is not resolved, SBR should downgrade both books to F.

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