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    any bonus for the most part there is red tape especially smaller books

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    How aggressive they are with the bonus emails should be an indication that they most likely aren't in your favor at least that the feeling I get they send me 2 emails a day some days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaserpleaser View Post
    How aggressive they are with the bonus emails should be an indication that they most likely aren't in your favor at least that the feeling I get they send me 2 emails a day some days.
    There is something to this. They were very aggressive in trying to get me to take this particular bonus. Lesson learned. Done. Finite.

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    I think the entire prob is that the OP didn't understand about the "Bonus Requirement" rules & stipulations...... (and then wanted to create a thread to whine about it)

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    This is a pretty good shop right? I understand the bonus situation with Seaborne but other than that people get paid? SBR has them B+ and they have been around a while. JoeyBagel had me a little concerned and now I see this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
    This is a pretty good shop right? I understand the bonus situation with Seaborne but other than that people get paid? SBR has them B+ and they have been around a while. JoeyBagel had me a little concerned and now I see this thread.
    Good book. Just don't take ANY of their calendar promos AFTER you deposit.

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    Stop

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    At youwager, you don't have to complete your rollover before requesting a payout as long as you complete a certain percentage or leave a certain amount in your account. You should ask them.

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    good book
    pays on time

    make sure you leave money in your account when cashing out so they dont call you

    also refuse all bonuses
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    Fastest payout hands down. No matter what payment option you choose(except wire since never used wire option before), you get your money the same day or next day at latest.

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    I just got a payout today. It took 2 hours to get cash in hand from when i requested it. Fastest payouts in industry by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonsux View Post
    Fastest payout hands down. No matter what payment option you choose(except wire since never used wire option before), you get your money the same day or next day at latest.
    Fastest payout I'd argue is Nitrogen. Can request $50,000 worth of bitcoin and be paid within 5 minutes with them. ZERO FEES ALWAYS.

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    Interesting, can you still play there EV? 50k is a pretty decent chunk of change.

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    I only use youwager when they offer me a killer bonus. Solid book, pays fast, not a lot of betting options though.

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    Looks like I'm going to have to have sbr intervene. Youwager doesn't want to pay out. What a mess

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    It amazes me how little people research their books before they put their cash in. I have used youwager/betpop for around 10 years now and couldn't be happier. But, you have to understand their system and take advantage every step of the way. For this coming football season, I've deposited $800- actually $400 into Youwager and $400 in Betpop. As of now, I have a $690 free-play bonus at Betpop and $415 free-play bonus at Youwager. The free-play bonuses are earned a number of ways, including initial deposit %, free spin the wheels, scratch offs, magazine codes, calendar events, etc. It helps to become buddies with your contact their too, who always lets me know when special offers become available. Considering I've won won 4 out of the last 5 years there, they are quite generous. I've always gotten every withdrawal, quickly and without hassles. My only complaint with them was the constant calling by numerous reps to deposit more cash.....but those calls can be quickly eliminating by requesting NO MORE CALLS, which they will honor. But then it's up to you to email/call in to get the latest offers. Lastly, I've used many of the books listed and these guys are my go-to book- I'm very happy with them.

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    So, to specifically answer the above's frustration with withdrawals, here's how it works:

    1. Regarding your initial deposit, the money has to sit in your account for 30 days AND there must be a 4.5X rollover.

    2. If you chose to take the bonuses too, then the rollover works like this: add your initial deposit PLUS 1/2 your total bonuses. #1 above then applies.

    3. Lastly, add your initial deposit and 1/2 your bonuses and any winnings above that number are available for IMMEDIATE withdrawal with no waiting period or rollover.

    It's not difficult or unreasonable considering the amount of bonuses they are giving away, which are considerable.

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    do you work for them by any chance?

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    No, I don't work there or have any relationship with them other than a better. But I expected that kind of question with my detailed answers. The reason for my post was to clear up the crap you often read on these forums, which are full of accusations, incorrect info, faulty answers, and people commenting with other agendas. Personally, I don't care where anyone plays but it does bother me when a solid book is knocked. I like them, I play there and I get large bonuses on my minimal deposits. But you have to know how to go about it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBetYou View Post
    do you work for them by any chance?
    Most likely ... If you have to ask you thought it too

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshz View Post
    So, to specifically answer the above's frustration with withdrawals, here's how it works:

    1. Regarding your initial deposit, the money has to sit in your account for 30 days AND there must be a 4.5X rollover.

    2. If you chose to take the bonuses too, then the rollover works like this: add your initial deposit PLUS 1/2 your total bonuses. #1 above then applies.

    3. Lastly, add your initial deposit and 1/2 your bonuses and any winnings above that number are available for IMMEDIATE withdrawal with no waiting period or rollover.

    It's not difficult or unreasonable considering the amount of bonuses they are giving away, which are considerable.
    YouWager adds the calender promos and spins to an already completed deposit rollover. That is where I have had the problem. Then lately to keep my money have accused me of depositing "money on top of money" based on what the "system" tells them. Yet they can't tell me when I made another deposit. I made one deposit LAST YEAR and completed the 4.5X rollover before the football season was over. Now YouWager tells me I am depositing money on top of money, but not when I did it. I would know if I made another deposit with a book. YouWager must count each calender promo/spin as a deposit. Don't worry. I have only 247 dollars left after I had been told by two agents that I had completed ALL of the rollover bonuses, and when I do. I am done with them forever. Cash OUT!!!!!!

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    I'm still not exactly sure what you are talking about but I do know ALL free play (bonus) money is applied towards the 4.5X rollover- no matter what promotion they gave it to you. If you have $200 in your account, then you can particpate in certain promo's, which it sounds like you did. But that money still has to be turned 4.5X. Sounds to me like they added your new-season balance to the bonus money and multiplied it 4.5X. I believe you can reverse out any bonus money to enable you withdrawal anytime. OR they've "red-flagged" you as a difficult customer and are hoping you'll leave anyway.....LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshz View Post
    I'm still not exactly sure what you are talking about but I do know ALL free play (bonus) money is applied towards the 4.5X rollover- no matter what promotion they gave it to you. If you have $200 in your account, then you can particpate in certain promo's, which it sounds like you did. But that money still has to be turned 4.5X. Sounds to me like they added your new-season balance to the bonus money and multiplied it 4.5X. I believe you can reverse out any bonus money to enable you withdrawal anytime. OR they've "red-flagged" you as a difficult customer and are hoping you'll leave anyway.....LOL
    The feeling is mutual. I am difficult and they are being difficult. We will be parting ways soon enough. FYI, a 4.5X rollover should apply to the promo not the initial deposit twice. I could rollover a 50 dollar promo of 425 pretty easily, but if you add it to an already completed deposit bonus then its over 4000 dollars....................Again. That is the problem I have. Any knucklehead can rollover 50 dollars 4.5X, but having to rollover 50 dollars by ADDING it to a 1000 dollar already completed deposit is criminal.

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    If they are doing that to you, I agree with you. I just bet football and withdrawal everything at the end of the season and re-deposit for the next football season in August so I've never experienced what you're talking about. Why not try reversing out any bonuses and then try to withdrawal?

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    Seaborneq,

    i would contact poster Beantownjim he will be able to help your situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshz View Post
    If they are doing that to you, I agree with you. I just bet football and withdrawal everything at the end of the season and re-deposit for the next football season in August so I've never experienced what you're talking about. Why not try reversing out any bonuses and then try to withdrawal?

    That is what they have done to me and claim its the industry standard. BS. I have wagered over 10000 dollars on a 500 dollar deposit with a 4.5X rollover. You do the math, and they still won't let me cash out.

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    I think we all agree now it's a con. I had a similar one with 10Bet once. The catch was you didn't get any rollover bets done until you had spent the deposit bit of you funds -they form a clear divide between the deposit bit and the bonus bit with the deposit bit coming first. So you deposit 200 and get a 100 bonus, and when you bet 200 it does not make a dent in the rollover as you're betting with the deposit money

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    That is what they have done to me and claim its the industry standard. BS. I have wagered over 10000 dollars on a 500 dollar deposit with a 4.5X rollover. You do the math, and they still won't let me cash out.

    I hear you but the point is you've taken another "newer" bonus so the past doesn't matter anymore- only the new wagering since your new bonuses is considered towards the rollover I imagine. As I said in my first post, understanding all the rules is paramount when depositing in these sportsbooks. I have a friend who has earned over $1800 in free play money and refuses to wager it so he's not restricted on withdrawals. But to knock Youwager I think is a bit extreme. It's more a case of you not fully understanding the bonus rules which is hindering your ability to withdrawal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshz View Post
    I hear you but the point is you've taken another "newer" bonus so the past doesn't matter anymore- only the new wagering since your new bonuses is considered towards the rollover I imagine. As I said in my first post, understanding all the rules is paramount when depositing in these sportsbooks. I have a friend who has earned over $1800 in free play money and refuses to wager it so he's not restricted on withdrawals. But to knock Youwager I think is a bit extreme. It's more a case of you not fully understanding the bonus rules which is hindering your ability to withdrawal.
    It's a freaking calendar promo or free spin for no more than 50 dollars or 25. Yet you add that that to a completed deposit wager?? What's the points of completing the deposit wager if you are going to add to it? If you do 100 push ups and I tell you to do 10 more, would you expect to do a total of 110 push-ups or 210? Yeah. I'm adding the 10 to the original 100 that you have already done. So the original 100 are obsolete and no longer count. Are you doing 10 more push-ups or 110 more? Doesn't seem so reasonable now does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    That is what they have done to me and claim its the industry standard. BS. I have wagered over 10000 dollars on a 500 dollar deposit with a 4.5X rollover. You do the math, and they still won't let me cash out.
    really i hardly play there and ran 50 bucks to a max ** quickly and they let me do it both times

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    I'm awaiting upcoming bonuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    It's a freaking calendar promo or free spin for no more than 50 dollars or 25. Yet you add that that to a completed deposit wager?? What's the points of completing the deposit wager if you are going to add to it? If you do 100 push ups and I tell you to do 10 more, would you expect to do a total of 110 push-ups or 210? Yeah. I'm adding the 10 to the original 100 that you have already done. So the original 100 are obsolete and no longer count. Are you doing 10 more push-ups or 110 more? Doesn't seem so reasonable now does it?

    No, it does not seem reasonable. I totally agree. But, they're giving you free money so they have you by the balls. I got my OOBG magazine today so that code paid me an additional $50 and the scratch offs normally arrive around the same time. And remember, free spins on the wheel (or $25) on 9/3 and 9/8. I love free $$$$$$$$$.

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    Two posters defending these clowns, one with eight posts, another with 46 and they both joined after this thread was started. Both of you tell your bosses to pay up.

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    If you're balance is $0, would it make sense to accept the wheel spin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    Two posters defending these clowns, one with eight posts, another with 46 and they both joined after this thread was started. Both of you tell your bosses to pay up.
    They only pay when you win. It would appear you, on the other hand, go to the bar.

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