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    Quote Originally Posted by brendon View Post
    playing at 87% perfect strategy is not even considered good. you can go into any casino in vegas and carry a cheat sheet card...play 100% to the book and they don't even care.
    They probably care less about it in a land casino due the much lower number of hands you can get through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendon View Post
    he could still win a ton with more hands lost than he won if he's a card counter. But I think these online blackjack are continuous shuffle so that eliminates that possibility.
    Exactly- online the cards are manipulated. I had to block the casino there it was so bad. Always a 3-1 ratio of 20s and 21s the dealer gets to yours. So getting $51000 would be very hard especially seeing he lost more hands then he won. Still- if he did not cheat he should be paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They probably care less about it in a land casino due the much lower number of hands you can get through?

    actually, online would work more against the player. even a player playing at 100% according to the book, the house still has around .20% advantage, assuming players allowed to split and double down with no restsrictions. the faster the pace, .20% advantage is piling up.
    if i'm a online casino owner, i wouldn't care if my players play 100% perfect stragety. they'll just go broke slower but with online being much faster pace, it wouldn't matter
    Last edited by brendon; 04-22-15 at 06:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Courtesywipe View Post
    OK boys, time to find a another shop to play at. Do not put any more of your money in this place.

    I hope not The have been good for the last year or so...Now site issues though and been on hold 30 minutes, no call or email back.... and How can go from caller 1 to 2 3 times lol. tried waiting but that 51k issue spooked me...

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    I don't play casino. As long as they pay me, I'll continue take the high bonus and play there

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    Get your money out of here asap, total scam.
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    Looks like we should be ok all...found out got a merger going down and we all know bigger fish eat little fish so should get stronger. TBC...

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    They've shown they're willing to rip people off with no justification and they'll do the same to you if they get the chance.
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    I am wondering there were a couple others waiting for payouts . The Casino $51000 i really want to find out what is going on i hope they pay him. But has everyone else at least been paid? Is anyone still waiting for a payout or did they at least pay that? I thought there were a couple who said they were expecting payments did you guys get them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I am wondering there were a couple others waiting for payouts . The Casino $51000 i really want to find out what is going on i hope they pay him. But has everyone else at least been paid? Is anyone still waiting for a payout or did they at least pay that? I thought there were a couple who said they were expecting payments did you guys get them?
    As of right now I have not....2 pending.

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    I requested 2 payouts, received one so far

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    I hope you both get them - Dim how long ago did you get the 1st ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I hope you both get them - Dim how long ago did you get the 1st ?
    last tuesday

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    Been waiting for weeks now. they keep saying that they are having meetings and will know more at the end of the week but nothing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearsFan1 View Post
    Looks like we should be ok all...found out got a merger going down and we all know bigger fish eat little fish so should get stronger. TBC...
    Looks like you were right my friend , they just announced the Merger last night. However they said that they will resume payouts in No more more then "60 calendar days" . Now this is kind of crazy. I have had a pending payout for a while and know you have two. Are they going to make us wait until the merger is complete before they start paying people out again? I mean it is right dead smack in the middle of NBA, NHL playoffs and the start of the MLB season. People want to win and get paid right now. If this is the case that is just really bad business.

    Impossible to get a hold of them on the phone these days too....

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    Where did they announce this merger and who are they merging with??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomallen123 View Post
    Where did they announce this merger and who are they merging with??
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-...ech-inc-56787/

    BetMayor Sportsbook (SBR rating F) released an email notice last night to all account holders announcing that the online sportsbook has been acquired by Panamanian corporation Media-Tech Inch, which is allegedly part of a venture capital fund with focus on technology related investments. | Read more

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    I am truly surprised they made it this long to be perfectly honest.

    You could only rob Peter to pay Paul for so long.

    Couldn't have happen to bunch of nicer people


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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Forum View Post
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-...ech-inc-56787/

    BetMayor Sportsbook (SBR rating F) released an email notice last night to all account holders announcing that the online sportsbook has been acquired by Panamanian corporation Media-Tech Inch, which is allegedly part of a venture capital fund with focus on technology related investments. | Read more
    Do we have any idea what the other books in the merger are yet?

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    Seems like two of their employees had stolen from them at the same time of the Merger which is making the entire process a mess.

    Betmayor could of closed their doors after this mess and just stolen money but they are not . The 2 guys who stole money from them coincidentally offered BM clients the amount of money that is in their accounts in an account at CRSsportsbet.Ag with a 10X rollover as a way of making a mends with their clientele . To me that just seems awfully fishy considering the fact CRSsportsBet has absolutely no track record online at at Sports Book review site and it is also set up like a perhead shop.

    Personally I think Jeff is in a tough spot and actually trying to do the right thing.

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    I received the same email last night from betnayor about the merger. Hell, im not a big gambler but would like to get paid like eveyone else.

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    I believe BM has every intention to pay people once the merger is complete. The Company Acquiring them is just going through all the numbers and what not right now. Jeff expects people to start getting paid much sooner before the 60 days is up. The money stolen has just complicated things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packattack View Post
    Seems like two of their employees had stolen from them at the same time of the Merger which is making the entire process a mess.

    Betmayor could of closed their doors after this mess and just stolen money but they are not . The 2 guys who stole money from them coincidentally offered BM clients the amount of money that is in their accounts in an account at CRSsportsbet.Ag with a 10X rollover as a way of making a mends with their clientele . To me that just seems awfully fishy considering the fact CRSsportsBet has absolutely no track record online at at Sports Book review site and it is also set up like a perhead shop.

    Personally I think Jeff is in a tough spot and actually trying to do the right thing.

    Packattack, where did hear that the 2 guys that stole from betmayor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by packattack View Post
    Seems like two of their employees had stolen from them at the same time of the Merger which is making the entire process a mess.

    Betmayor could of closed their doors after this mess and just stolen money but they are not . The 2 guys who stole money from them coincidentally offered BM clients the amount of money that is in their accounts in an account at CRSsportsbet.Ag with a 10X rollover as a way of making a mends with their clientele . To me that just seems awfully fishy considering the fact CRSsportsBet has absolutely no track record online at at Sports Book review site and it is also set up like a perhead shop.

    Personally I think Jeff is in a tough spot and actually trying to do the right thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Do we have any idea what the other books in the merger are yet?

    We can only hope...f rating ouch! Not sure who would make deposits with them after reading this but pack I'm with you...if they/he makes it right I'll consider staying. If they want to have a shot of staying in business they need to do whatever it takes to pay out what's owed to customers. None of that is our fault.

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    guys, what do you think 2 so-called employees stole? An office chair or two? A laptop? Coffee? Post-it notes?

    Don't believe this nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    guys, what do you think 2 so-called employees stole? An office chair or two? A laptop? Don't believe this nonsense.
    At the end of the day unfortunately it really doesn't matter what we think it we are owed payouts, all we can do is hope for the best and if it doesn't happen make sure we use every online venue to try to make sure no one ever gives them another dime. But it behooves us to give them a shot to make good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearsFan1 View Post
    At the end of the day unfortunately it really doesn't matter what we think it we are owed payouts, all we can do is hope for the best and if it doesn't happen make sure we use every online venue to try to make sure no one ever gives them another dime. But it behooves us to give them a shot to make good.
    I feel for you or anyone who deposited there and is owed money. I hope they make good. I really do. Believe me.

    I did my best to warn people several times in this thread (see post #164) because I knew this was going to end bad. It wasn't a guess.

    Good luck to anyone who is owed money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    I feel for you or anyone who deposited there and is owed money. I hope they make good. I really do. Believe me.

    I did my best to warn people several times in this thread (see post #164) because I knew this was going to end bad. It wasn't a guess.

    Good luck to anyone who is owed money.
    So my ? Is this...are there any F rated books still in business that have turned it round? and made good?

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    I heard it from the GM himself. The story did actually make sense. 2 Guys from there are trying to take all their customers over to a book called CRSSportsbet which has no history of ever being in business yet was said to be in business for years now. Very strange.

    Dwight for some time had said things about BM . What made you feel like it would end badly? Was it just because they are a small book or do you have any information about the people there that made you feel that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by packattack View Post
    I believe BM has every intention to pay people once the merger is complete. The Company Acquiring them is just going through all the numbers and what not right now. Jeff expects people to start getting paid much sooner before the 60 days is up. The money stolen has just complicated things.
    Jeff Cash (aka NO CASH FOR NOBODY!) is the guy who personally put me off for the past two weeks, then
    on thursday AND friday before the merger email went out monday assured me i would be paid no later than today(tue. 4/28/15).

    They are just saying whatever they have to say to placate players to get through the moment.

    Jeff no cash for nobody and the cat named Joe are some slick talkers.
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    Something fishy going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by dherd View Post
    Jeff Cash (aka NO CASH FOR NOBODY!) is the guy who personally put me off for the past two weeks, then
    on thursday AND friday before the merger email went out monday assured me i would be paid no later than today(tue. 4/28/15).

    They are just saying whatever they have to say to placate players to get through the moment.

    Jeff no cash for nobody and the cat named Joe are some slick talkers.
    what do you expect? They are a couple used car salesman sitting under a grass hut in a 3rd world country.

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    Well, i can only go by what i have experienced personally. Kennedy is the one i mainly dealt with. He and Andrew . I have to say that when i would call in and talk to others there i was not very happy with how i was treated at times. So i tried to just deal with Kennedy.

    Once i was even going back and forth on trying to give them BACK money on a bet i lost and it was added in as a win. They actually gave me a hassle on that and even told Kennedy in an e-mail i had no case. WTH case for what? Trying to argue that i did not want to be credited for a win when it was a loss.

    Towards the end when i was getting delays in payments it was not Kennedy that sent e-mails. Also it was not Andrew that sent one that said i would have to wait until 5/1 at the beginning of March. At this time was when Kennedy was on vacation.

    I really do not know what to think about 2 employees stealing and leaving. They are either telling the truth or just trying to blame someone else for them not paying. But if they start paying everyone they owe that would be a good start. I still do not know about the $51000 the guy said he won in casino i still would have loved to see the cards .

    As for this other book i hear they will bit the amount in there with a 10Xs rollover? So BM will possibly pay it still but they will get that at the new one? Or are they saying if they do that you will never get your cash at BM?

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    I wonder if they received the 51k from DGS and just pocketed it.

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