[bulldog23]

So, just as expected - the money was never sent... Top bookmaker if I've ever seen one

Bulldog - IBAN is just your bank account number.

No...I looked in all banks of my country there is no IBAN code, only SWIFT

[chachi]

SWIFT code is the first handful of letters/digits in an IBAN

[shari91]

Paddy Power 01/05/2014 -
Your username is: *****
As part of a routine review, we have identified your account as potentially accessing our services ***** and it is our policy to restrict play from individuals who are located there.
As such, we will unfortunately have to close your account. However, if you believe that our findings are incorrect and you are located in a country not included on our Restricted Territories List here, please contact our Customer Service team who can assist you.
We apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause. If you have any questions about this matter or you would like to arrange for any withdrawal of funds, please feel free to contact our Customer Service team using the details below.

Best Wishes,
Paddy Power Customer Service Team
---------------------------------------------
I played Paddy Power since 2011

I wonder when they added your country to the list. It could be a case where they suddenly blocked access to everyone from there and they were faced with having to verify docs and send out withdrawals and by bad luck something went wrong with yours. We haven't had any other complaints about them in quite awhile except for one guy who was upset because they stopped offering him a promotion without telling him in advance. Nothing to do with withdrawals at all. They're not an SBR sponsor and I don't even play with them any more so I have no reason to vouch for them but with all the complaints I've heard about them, it's never been because they're scammers. Regardless I'm happy to hear it seems to be sorted out now and make sure to let us know when you receive your $.

[bulldog23]

I sent all documents to them. money isn't present

[bulldog23]

I don't know for what reasons, but they refused to play with my country. Other bookmakers work

[shari91]

I don't know for what reasons, but they refused to play with my country. Other bookmakers work

That's been happening a lot the past year and a half or so and I suspect it'll continue to happen for Eastern Euro countries and some others unfortunately. The level of fraud and money laundering is way too high now so books are just deciding the amount of $ they're spending on fraud prevention is no longer worth it. Even at SBR it's reached the point it's out of control with posters from certain regions constantly trying to fraud our Betpoints system so you can imagine what a sportsbook would face. One Russian guy explained to me awhile back that he could make more trying to steal from SBR than he would from his job in a month so of course a sportsbook would be even more appealing as they can earn big $. It's sad because those people screw it up for everyone.

[DrRuss]

No...I looked in all banks of my country there is no IBAN code, only SWIFT

What country are you from, btw?

Most of the time the IBAN is a combination of your account number, swift code and some other identifiers; some banks can send money using the IBAN directly, without the SWIFT. Most that I know can use your account number and swift to send, without the actual IBAN, which is why I told you to just use your bank account number.

Just call your bank and ask them to give you the IBAN and SWIFT info, I don't think it would be on your statement, since only the account number is printed there.

[DrRuss]

That's been happening a lot the past year and a half or so and I suspect it'll continue to happen for Eastern Euro countries and some others unfortunately. The level of fraud and money laundering is way too high now so books are just deciding the amount of $ they're spending on fraud prevention is no longer worth it.

While this "sounds" plausible, the real reason Paddy and some other bookies are leaving Eastern Europe is because they cannot compete with Bet365, who have that market in the pocket. Looking at this here thread, no surprise that they have hard time competing with Bet365 for the little money there is in Eastern Europe.

Also, money laundering in Eastern Europe doesn't happen $1,000 at a time at some online bookie

It's sad because those people screw it up for everyone.

Lame excuse. If this was true, they would only screw it up for the players from Russia. Why would a bookie treat a Russian bettor and UK punter with the same level of scrutiny? Simple, because there are fraudsters everywhere

[bulldog23]

In promotions, free bets, betpoynts I didn't participate

[shari91]

While this "sounds" plausible, the real reason Paddy and some other bookies are leaving Eastern Europe is because they cannot compete with Bet365, who have that market in the pocket. Looking at this here thread, no surprise that they have hard time competing with Bet365 for the little money there is in Eastern Europe.

Also, money laundering in Eastern Europe doesn't happen $1,000 at a time at some online bookie



Lame excuse. If this was true, they would only screw it up for the players from Russia. Why would a bookie treat a Russian bettor and UK punter with the same level of scrutiny? Simple, because there are fraudsters everywhere

I'm not going to debate what their real motives are as I can only go by what I see in complaints here and from discussing the issue with books every time a country gets blanked out. Plus I'm the person here who deals with fraud for our itty bitty points program and it mirrors what's being reflected back to me from sportsbooks (and btw 365 is a sponsor here so more power to them if they're scaring everyone else). So if you have proof that these are the real reasons sportsbooks are banning these countries in droves then I'd love to see it just out of curiosity sake. Sportsbooks in Australia have been banning these countries for ages - well before 365 entered the market - and the response was always the same so I'm always open to hearing a contrarian point of view!

As for the UK vs Russia - they don't treat bettors from each region the same. Have you even looked at this forum? How many UK born and bred punters do you know who have had to hold up their ID card next to their face for KYC? Or Aussie ones? Or Canadian ones? Do a search on this forum and you'll see a common theme... even if the punter has moved to the UK, if their original docs are from a no fly zone country they are treated much differently hence all the threads on here.

[bulldog23]

Several times I sent all documents

Response By Email (Graham) (12/06/2014 03.10 PM)
Hi
In order to have the funds sent back to you via bank transfer you are required to provide the following for the bank account you want fund to be sent to.
At your earliest convenience, can you please send:
- A copy of a Bank Statement/Utility Bill dated within the last 3 months (name and address must also be clearly visible). We do not require transactional information and therefore you may block out such before sending.
At Paddy Power we take the security of our customers’ data extremely seriously and any documents that you provide us with will be kept safe and secure at all times, in accordance with the Data Protection Act.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused, as soon as the requested documents are received and verified, we will reactivate your account.

[bulldog23]

"we will reactivate your account".

What for? My money is necessary to me!

[DrRuss]

I'm not going to debate what their real motives are as I can only go by what I see in complaints here and from discussing the issue with books every time a country gets blanked out. Plus I'm the person here who deals with fraud for our itty bitty points program and it mirrors what's being reflected back to me from sportsbooks (and btw 365 is a sponsor here so more power to them if they're scaring everyone else). So if you have proof that these are the real reasons sportsbooks are banning these countries in droves then I'd love to see it just out of curiosity sake. Sportsbooks in Australia have been banning these countries for ages - well before 365 entered the market - and the response was always the same so I'm always open to hearing a contrarian point of view!

As for the UK vs Russia - they don't treat bettors from each region the same. Have you even looked at this forum? How many UK born and bred punters do you know who have had to hold up their ID card next to their face for KYC? Or Aussie ones? Or Canadian ones? Do a search on this forum and you'll see a common theme... even if the punter has moved to the UK, if their original docs are from a no fly zone country they are treated much differently hence all the threads on here.

Nah, you are taking it from one extreme to the other. No one is talking about countries like Nigeria or Bahrain
The list of Paddy banned countries include Germany, Denmark, Australia, Italy, Spain, etc. Is it about fraud, as you say the bookmakers have relayed to you? It's clearly all about the money, which Paddy either don't have or don't want to spend (licenses, ads, etc.). They are small potato bookmaker anyways, even offline. Bet365 not only serves Eastern Europe, but even offers Bulgarian, Romanian, etc interfaces. Why would they bother if it was full of scammers? I've never heard of anyone having to hold their ID to their face at a decent bookmaker. And don't get me started on some of the things the US sportsbooks make the US customers go through

Bulldog - sorry guy, but you have entered the Twilight Zone. A lot of canned responses from Paddy and with SBR unable to "urge" them, who knows how long it will take until someone at Paddy actually gets this thing straight. The best you can do is send them whatever they ask for and hope for he best.

[bulldog23]

Several times I sent all documents

Response By Email (Conor L) (12/06/2014 07.45 PM)
We are sorry for this continued delayed.
Unfortunately the statement we need from you has to show your name, Swift code and account number.
Can you please send this in to us so we will be able to complete this bank transfer.

[bulldog23]

Money isn't present. So Paddy Power works. 42 days of Paddy Power don't pay my money!

[dance1959]

Idiot bank transfer need at least 3 working days!

[onemoregoal]

how much money? ill be dissapointed if its not at least $2000 - or 5000000000 in your currency
u will get paid, relax, go have fun.... fukk

[tommir99]

Money isn't present. So Paddy Power works. 42 days of Paddy Power don't pay my money!

Wow... takes almost as long as with Rubet. 51 days now... still no money

[bulldog23]

It exactly swindlers! My money doesn't pay! Carefully, it is speculators!

[bulldog23]

Response By Email (Ken) (14/06/2014 02.00 PM)
Thank you for providing the requested information. Your Bank Transfer will now be processed.

Please be aware that while withdrawals are processed by Paddy Power almost immediately, it may take your bank an average of 2-3 working days or up to a maximum of 5, to process this payment into your bank account.

[bulldog23]

Paddy Power - Response By Email (Ken) (17/06/2014 09.29 AM)
Your Bank transfer has been processed.

Please be aware that while withdrawals are processed by Paddy Power almost immediately, it may take your bank an average of 2-3 working days or up to a maximum of 5, to process this payment into your bank account.

[bulldog23]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paddy Power - Response By Email (Martin) (17/06/2014 03.40 PM)

I am contacting you in relation to a recent bank transfer withdrawal you had requested from your Paddy Power account. I'm afraid the BIC number you have provided us with is incorrect and we are unable to process your withdrawal. Can I kindly ask you to forward us in a bank statement dated within the last 3 months, clearly showing your BIC and IBAN to save any further confusion.

I certainly understand any frustration you may have in relation to this issue and do sincerely apologise for any inconvenience with this issue.

[bulldog23]

Money isn't present. 47 days of Paddy Power don't pay my money! Speculators !

[dontknowhowtobet]

I'm ROFLing because of the English you use ... let me teach you a few words:

• Money is not present = Don't say that. Instead, you should say:
  The money is not showing up in my bank account yet!
• Swindlers! Speculators! = LOL ....
  Just say "cheaters" or "liars" or whatever instead.

They ask you for a statement showing your account number and SWIFT.
BIC = SWIFT
SWIFT = BIC

Show them a statement or document from your bank showing your SWIFT number and Account Number.

Or use another account if they allow you, so it would finally be processed.

[dontknowhowtobet]

SWIFT number and Account Number.

My bad, it's called SWIFT code, not SWIFT Number.

[bulldog23]

I sent all bank details, all documents to e-mail Paddy Power
Beneficiary Bank - SWIFT - Intermediary Bank - SWIFT - Beneficiary Customer - card No.

Specially for Paddy Power opened other account which hasn't been attached to the card

Money isn't present! ​Paddy Power specially drag out process

[dontknowhowtobet]

I sent all bank details, all documents to e-mail Paddy Power
Beneficiary Bank - SWIFT - Intermediary Bank - SWIFT - Beneficiary Customer - card No.

Specially for Paddy Power opened other account which hasn't been attached to the card

Money isn't present! ​Paddy Power specially drag out process

Yes, they are not being helpful.
Do you not have a moneybookers account so they can send you the funds there?

[bulldog23]

The deposit was a DC
skrill - the account is open

[bulldog23]

You In ***** there is no IBAN code. NO! DOESN'T EXIST! ONLY SWIFT!
I sent all documents and requisites to you! ! !

Paddy Power Darryl
If possible can you give us a contact number for your bank as we will require the IBAN number (International bank account number)

[bulldog23]

Sent links to other banks, where specified in the details of only SWIFT code.

Money isn't present! ​Paddy Power specially drag out process

[bulldog23]

Money doesn't send. The account blocked. Money isn't present

Paddy Power- Following a routine check, we have identified that you have accessed your account from a Restricted Territory. (See here for a list of countries that are restricted from Paddy Power)
As this is in breach of our Terms and Conditions your account has been de-activated.
I am sorry but due to legal reasons Paddy Power Plc no longer accept customer ********* or anyone using their IP address.
I apologise for any inconvenience caused.

[bulldog23]

In Paddy Power work drunks, drug addicts? Money doesn't send.


Paddy Power - Response By Email (Phillip) (20/06/2014 12.44 PM)
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
There appears to be some confusion regarding this issue, and I apologise for this. Your bank transfer was successful, and the money is on the way to your account in the amount of ***
The withdrawal was made on the 17th of June - 2014-06-17 09:27:53
It can take 2-5 working days to be processed by your bank, so the money will be in your account by next Tuesday.
Apologies for any inconvenience or confusion caused in regards to this matter.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paddy Power - Response By Email (Tom) (21/06/2014 09.03 PM)

For a cheque to be sent out, we just require Proof of address, e.g. Bank Statement/Utility Bill dated in the last 3 months (you can black out any purchase data if you wish to keep these completely private)
Alternatively we can set you up with a Bank Transfer. For Security reasons before you make your first Bank Transfer you must provide us with a copy of your bank statement along with a Form of Photo ID. Once you provide these details once you will not have to do so again.
Your Full Name
Your Username
The amount you are withdrawing
Your Bank Name
Your Bank Address
Your Account Number
Your Sort Code
Your Swift Code

[Hareeba!]

A whole 4 days without a further silly squeal suggests PP must have finally found a means to make the payout but the maddog won't withdraw his absurd accusations?

[bulldog23]

Money isn't present 55 days. Probably Paddy Power bankrupt. Or specially tighten time.

Careful, do not pay money. Play dangerous!

[bulldog23]

At first reported that sent money 2014-06-17 - 09:27:53, then that sent 2014-06-17 - 13:59:37. Got confused, don't know when sent money. Likely they didn't send money!