[SBR Forum]

MarathonBet is claiming that a group of players from the same region who are connected have attempted to circumvent limits and abuse bonuses. They are choosing to enforce "fees", and allegedly void wagers from these players.

A number of these users have filed SBR complaints. We are still gathering facts and speaking with MarathonBet management on these issues to determine the extent of their evidence.

[mirmiroa]

In my case there was no bonus and i generarely dont think they offer any kind of bonus...
The only abuse is from marathon that in case u win voids bets and impose fees and in case u lose just impose fees
The whole story doent make sense and the amounts they stole seem to be very big
sbr need to protect players from these behavoours they dont have any bonuses and cant decide after months of betting to steal ur money
of course they will find excuses

[alexwalstow]

I have never known Marathon to offer any kind of bonus so that part is certainly a lie on their part. And I do not see what they mean 'circumvent limits'. The limits are applied on an account by account basis by their traders.

Sounds to me like Marathon is trying to pull a fast one. They offer the odds and they offer the limits for each account. All bets placed an accepted in good faith should be honoured. They are within their rights to ask for ID for each account and if this can be provided then they are legally bound as per their license to pay out correctly and cannot be voiding winning bets or applying scandalous fees plucked from the sky. They are well within their rights to close accounts if they wish but any activity previously on the account should be honoured.

[Optional]

Were you guys betting on the same things?

[minet123]

you send $/E/GBP to Russia in this day and age
you get what you deserve
Be grateful you get anything back
and it's not building Putins next gold plated banya

[kkkkk]

just a guess, maybe guys from same country using same paid service or same forums/sites place bets with good insider info. oops they won and the next shit bookmaker cant allow to lose that much. cheers

[bill009]

After two months of betting in big leagues (premier, primera, serie a, bundelsiga, nba) they decided to ''enforce "fees", and allegedly void wagers'' because ''circumvent limits and abuse bonuses''.
Do u want to talk about limits?? The limits are already at 10%, do u want to talk about bonuses? No bonuses from marathonbet.
I never treated like that from a book, i bet at many books for many months, never had same treatment. Sbr says that there are more complaints, so how much money marathonbet took from players??
Marathonbet never ever told me that they dont like me as a player, but after 2 months they just took my money. No serious excuse about that.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Don't think I've ever heard of marathon offering bonuses.

The nearest equivalent would be a cashback deal through moneybookers (which maybe explains why they reclaim fees?). I've heard of players elsewhere getting into trouble by repeat deposit/withdrawals to maximise this.

[Optional]

After two months of betting in big leagues (premier, primera, serie a, bundelsiga, nba) they decided to ''enforce "fees", and allegedly void wagers'' because ''circumvent limits and abuse bonuses''.
Do u want to talk about limits?? The limits are already at 10%, do u want to talk about bonuses? No bonuses from marathonbet.
I never treated like that from a book, i bet at many books for many months, never had same treatment. Sbr says that there are more complaints, so how much money marathonbet took from players??
Marathonbet never ever told me that they dont like me as a player, but after 2 months they just took my money. No serious excuse about that.

They did give you an excuse.

Do you have any idea why they might imagine you could be circumventing limits?

If your limits are already just "10%" as you say, it sounds like you could be exactly the type of customer who might get others to bet for him to get around that 10% limit.


None of you have anything to say about this question either eh?

Were you guys betting on the same things?

[bill009]

You think u ask sth serious, but u ask sth with no sense at all. Of course i can bet the same bet more than 1 time with my own account, no one needs more than one account. Is this enough for u clever boy?

[alexwalstow]

Why would it matter if people were betting on the same things? There is no law against that. As someone said many people could be using the same alert service or tipster. Can't start voiding bets and charging fees for that.

[mirmiroa]

i have placed more than 500 bets and marathon can confirm that

[brankica023]

Marathonbet never offer any bonus as i know,second i dont know where they say this guys are from but at most countries they already have 10% limits on accounts.When there was possible to repeat bets i bet sometimes 10-20 times on same bet and i dont see why it should be problem with it if they allow it,when they stop with it i just finish play with them.If they belive they bet on same bets they can limit their account,ask for verification and pay out the money.
Marathonbet stop to be one of the top bookies in my opinion 6 months ago and now there are more and more complaints about them.
In my opinion marathonbet is still easiest book to beat but their funny limits dont work for me any more.

[jjgold]

most of the complaints are all new sbr users which I find very odd

[alexwalstow]

Hey baldie a lot of people just read the forum and then only join when they need to make a complaint against a book. Not that SBR is any help anyway. 100% on the books side.

[allin1]

most of the complaints are all new sbr users which I find very odd

Indeed some might not post with integrous intentions, but others might fall within the classic scenario:

bettor has a problem with a book
uses google
finds sbr
posts

Nothing odd in that imo.

[RichardMrNice]

As anybody thought about these people trying Manipulate a market. I know with the right amount of capital in smaller markets this can be easily done.

[SBR Forum]

With respect to the allegation of limits circumvention and coordinated play w/ other users, one of the players in question deposited nearly €200,000 in a 16 day stretch. We are still gathering facts and speaking to both sides concerning these issues.

[Optional]

You think u ask sth serious, but u ask sth with no sense at all. Of course i can bet the same bet more than 1 time with my own account, no one needs more than one account. Is this enough for u clever boy?

Still no answer to the simple question, have you guys been betting on the same markets?

There was no accusation or claim anything was wrong. Just an easy to answer question that you 'clever boys' have dodged three times.

Why would it matter if people were betting on the same things? There is no law against that. As someone said many people could be using the same alert service or tipster. Can't start voiding bets and charging fees for that.

Doesn't need to be against the law, just against the sportsbook rules. Books have been known to boot/limit players for simply using the same tout service. But it does beg the question... What tout service where you using? Should be an easy matter to prove to the book you were just following those tout picks if you were using a service.

If you weren't using a tout, what's your next best excuse if your bets are the same as other people? Just a strange co-incidence that a person with limits reduced to 10% suddenly has a doppelganger who makes the same bets maybe?

[alexwalstow]

I'm not involved in this complaint was just making a general point. I very much doubt there is a rule in Marathons ts and cs that states "If you make the same bets as any other marathon users we can void these bets should they win and confiscate part of your funds". No doubt they do have some wishy washy ambiguous rule that they can make out to mean that but then don't they all.

[mirmiroa]

of course there were not similar bets i was never told anything like that
as i already told u i have placed many and huge bets in the bigest leagues

[darkhat]

if it's just friends sharing picks they should be paid

same thing betrevolution tried to claim before they started scamming

[Mikeyanks23]

if it's just friends sharing picks they should be paid

same thing betrevolution tried to claim before they started scamming

Exactly

[Optional]

To be fair, if a book has limited and you choose to circumvent those limits by having a friend bet for you, then you are breaking the rules.

[mirmiroa]

There is no official reply from sbr or marathonbet yet

[zochris]

I think that this is serious! But first we have to know if there was any complaint from the marathon to the player! If marathon has warned the player for the big deposits its right to take the fees!Can we find that?

[bill009]

So what is happening here? Why no response from sbr or marathon?

[LEOLEO]

yes they pay

but they limit any successful bettor within a week,
to gross low limit wagers...

even sometimes outta the gate
in europe AND CANADA,

[jjgold]

That is a practice many European and UK books do so that's not a surprise not a negative.

yes they pay

but they limit any successful bettor within a week,
to gross low limit wagers...

even sometimes outta the gate
in europe AND CANADA,

[addictedto]

I see the thread is old, but however to mention that a friend of mine was threated very badly by Marathonbet - he is an old customer there for years. They suspended his account out of nowhere, they request documents although his account is already verified. Then they don't answer his emails for days, while livechat is clueless - they don't even speak a proper English. My friend is no racist but he says every time on livechat is Muhammed or Husain.

Me personally would never deposit money to such joke as Marathon and would warn all my friends. And what about the limits? 5 bucks bets? This is hilarious.

SBR should protect player's interests against such practices. I wonder also what their regulator is doing.

[Digo]

I did use e-wallets and never had any problems with payouts. Just crap limits.

[asdf21]

one of the players in question deposited nearly €200,000 in a 16 day stretch.

That gotta be the biggest deposit ever