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    SerBS vs. AlBanians aBandoned

    this is a new one - abandoned in middle of match due to political reasons. lol. it is usually flood lights or rain or riots or some shit like that. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    it is usually flood lights or rain or riots or some shit like that. lol
    You guessed it, it's a drone!

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    it because of dumb patriotic albanians.

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    Those albanians are shit..i don't understand why are they so patriotic in weird way, i think if i'm not mistaken one person on that flag is some Albanian surgeon(or better say: butcher) who took organs from people for black market in cold blood. Such a devastating country, and i think this is shame for all europe. I follow politics so i know that European area, but Albanians are protected by USA and NATO and that is why they think they can do whatever they want..
    Shame shame..

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    all to do with Kosovo isnt it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    all to do with Kosovo isnt it

    Right vaugh.

    Those albanians are shit..i don't understand why are they so patriotic in weird way, i think if i'm not mistaken one person on that flag is some Albanian surgeon(or better say: butcher) who took organs from people for black market in cold blood. Such a devastating country, and i think this is shame for all europe. I follow politics so i know that European area, but Albanians are protected by USA and NATO and that is why they think they can do whatever they want..
    Shame shame..
    Shame on ALbania ?

    Who burned the albanian flag in the match Italy - Serbia , a match where Albania had nothing to do with?? http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ans-italy-riot

    Who killed the Toulouse's fan before 3-4 years ??
    http://www.france24.com/en/20090929-...ligan-attack-/

    How many times has Serbia been fined for their racism and hooliganism ?

    And why don't you explain the whole situation before the match and during the match (until 42th minute) ?
    http://threefivefive.net/2014/10/sev...e-in-belgrade/

    1) Bottles and smoke bombs were thrown to Albanian players anytime they were at the corner kick.Does UEFA allow this ?
    2) The fans were chanting all the time "Ubij ubij siptara" which means "kill kill albanians".Does UEFA allow this ?
    3) NATO flag was burned in the stadium.Does UEFA allow this
    4) The stadium was filled with Serb nationalistic political banners, like “Kosovo is Serbia” and other slogans relating to Bosnia and Croatia.Does UEFA allow this ?

    What did Serbian media do ? They speculated by saying that the brother of Albanian Prime Minister was controlling the drone , which was something bullshit just to blame the others.
    Here are the ones who controlled the drone , they are called "SHvercerat Shkup" and they are the fans of "Shkupi" team , based in Skopje,FYROM.
    https://www.facebook.com/Shvercerat1...type=1&theater

    At the end , i agree that the drone was too much provocative , but that was as a result of threats by serbian federation that any albanian entering the stadium and showing albanian symbols will be jailed.Albanian fans got furious from these threats and they promised they will be present in the stadium (which later resulted to be the drone?

    Serb fans burning Albanian shirt during the match :
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2782640&type=1

    Police making a harsh control to even Albanian players , but on the other hand the serbian fans can bring to the stadium any object they want:
    https://www.facebook.com/JETAOSHQEEF...type=1&theater
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    i think if i'm not mistaken one person on that flag is some Albanian surgeon(or better say: butcher) who took organs from people for black market in cold blood
    You are talking 100% shit.
    Those persons have fought for the independence of Albania back in 1912.Those 2 persons are named Ismail Qemali and Isa Boletini , you can google if you give a fuk.

    What are you saying is valid for Serbia.They have made a whole massacre to Kosovo , Bosnia and Croatia by raping and killing millions of people. Milosevic and other people are jailed by Hague court for their crimes and genocide , and this leaves no room for other discussion.
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    Lets see how will be in Albania then
    And i don't have time to tell you about history but please learn before writing here, you have google and other things and give me some evidence for what you are talking about so i can see for my own eyes, otherwise don't make false statements..
    And by the way, who fought on Kosovo 1389 ? Serbia vs Turkey empire(otoman) so please don't talk something which is nonsense..how is then Kosovo albanian?
    Also serbs from Croatia and Bosnia were expelled(lets say that) and then they went home on foot, so that is why Serbia fought with Croatia and Bosnia, 1000's of evidence are here for this and what is your evidence please tell me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishel2512 View Post
    Lets see how will be in Albania then
    And i don't have time to tell you about history but please learn before writing here, you have google and other things and give me some evidence for what you are talking about so i can see for my own eyes, otherwise don't make false statements..
    And by the way, who fought on Kosovo 1389 ? Serbia vs Turkey empire(otoman) so please don't talk something which is nonsense..how is then Kosovo albanian?
    Also serbs from Croatia and Bosnia were expelled(lets say that) and then they went home on foot, so that is why Serbia fought with Croatia and Bosnia, 1000's of evidence are here for this and what is your evidence please tell me?

    I have sent links for both : burned flag in Genoa and Toulouse's fan killing.These are facts about Serbian mentality and their behaviour

    Kosovo 1389 ? What are you saying dude ?

    You want evidence ? Just google about the massacre and genocide (for example Srebrenica massacre done against bosnians ) that Serbia has done in Balkan region.
    So , why are Milosevic and CO jailed by court of Hague ? Oh yes , judges are crazy and they have jailed innocent people without any proof and without any evidence.For sure , you have more evidences.
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    Except for the first minute, both sides stood relatively calm. I praise some Serbian players who tried to help, some Albanian players go away from the pitch in security.

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    bad examples on both sides. i travelled all through eastern europe/balkans a month back and albanians were the biggest pieces of shit. like legit pieces of shit, i have way too many examples. i have a serbian background but i am not patriotic, i actually found croatians to be the nicest people in europe. surprised it made this much of a ripple in the news, this shit goes down all the time in the former yugoslavia aswell as alot of other places in europe.

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    Who has provoked here in the videos as below ?

    I don't know what teams are playing here , but always the same with serbian fans : burning albanian flag and chanting "ubi ubi siptari"
    The same happened on yesterday's match , booing the national anthem and chanting from the 1st minute "ubi ubi siptara"







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    Quote Originally Posted by pellumb341 View Post
    I have sent links for both : burned flag in Genoa and Toulouse's fan killing.These are facts about Serbian mentality and their behaviour

    Kosovo 1389 ? What are you saying dude ?

    You want evidence ? Just google about the massacre and genocide (for example Srebrenica massacre done against bosnians ) that Serbia has done in Balkan region.
    So , why are Milosevic and CO jailed by court of Hague ? Oh yes , judges are crazy and they have jailed innocent people without any proof and without any evidence.For sure , you have more evidences.
    Lets type Jasenovac in Google and see what comes up
    As for Kosovo battle, i said Serbian people were in that battle vs Turkish people(more or less) so why is now Kosovo Albanian i don't understand that..why then didn't Albanians fought with turkish people?
    And how can they blame Franjo Tudjman when he died in 1999, and Slobodan Milosevic was in Hague in 2001, i know that history and i know there are no proof that state otherwise for that, but hey everyone can have their opinion...i'm just saying there are no proofs of that, only someone said that, someone said this(and for this i have proofs because i watched it and also i have friends from that part , and they have friends, and those friends have dads, and those dads have grandfathers so i guess everyone is lying...)

    By the way, are you Albanian?

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    Yes , i am.

    As for Kosovo battle, i said Serbian people were in that battle vs Turkish people(more or less) so why is now Kosovo Albanian i don't understand that..why then didn't Albanians fought with turkish people?
    It seems you have no idea what you are talking about.What the fuk have turkish people to do with Kosovo war ???????

    The Kosovo War was an armed conflict in Kosovo that lasted from 28 February 1998 until 11 June 1999. It was fought by the forces of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, (by this time, consisting of the Republics of Montenegro and Serbia) which controlled Kosovo before the war, and the Kosovo Albanian rebel group known as the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) with air support from the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), (from 24th March 1999), and ground support from the Albanian army.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War

    NATO supported Kosovo and bombed Belgrade , this is the reason why Serbia hates NATO.This is why the fans burned NATOS's flag during the Serbia - Albania match (is this allowed by UEFA?).
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-pictures.html

    The match should have been abandoned many times before the drone showed up.There were bottles and smoke bombs being thrown towards albanian players , fans chanting "kill kill albanians" , NATO flag being burned , a lot of political slogans in the stadium.All these things happened from 1st minute to 42th minute (minute when drone showed up)

    and Slobodan Milosevic was in Hague in 2001
    You are making yourself look bad.The war happened from 1998 to 1999.So , Milosevic being in Hague in 2001 seems normal.Not sure what your point is ?!

    Former high Yugoslav officials were affirmed guilty of murder, deportation, and inhumane treatment of Kosovo Albanians in 1999
    http://balkanwitness.glypx.com/articles-trial.htm

    Bosnia genocide by Sebians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide
    Kosovo genocide by Serbians http://www.gendercide.org/case_kosovo.html


    We might say here whatever we want , but facts are facts and the fact is that Milosevic and other serbian militaries have already been sentenced by jail by International Court of Hague.

    Best regards !
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    Quote Originally Posted by pellumb341 View Post
    Yes , i am.



    It seems you have no idea what you are talking about.What the fuk have turkish people to do with Kosovo war ???????

    The Kosovo War was an armed conflict in Kosovo that lasted from 28 February 1998 until 11 June 1999. It was fought by the forces of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, (by this time, consisting of the Republics of Montenegro and Serbia) which controlled Kosovo before the war, and the Kosovo Albanian rebel group known as the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) with air support from the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), (from 24th March 1999), and ground support from the Albanian army.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War

    NATO supported Kosovo and bombed Belgrade , this is the reason why Serbia hates NATO.This is why the fans burned NATOS's flag during the Serbia - Albania match (is this allowed by UEFA?).
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-pictures.html

    The match should have been abandoned many times before the drone showed up.There were bottles and smoke bombs being thrown towards albanian players , fans chanting "kill kill albanians" , NATO flag being burned , a lot of political slogans in the stadium.All these things happened from 1st minute to 42th minute (minute when drone showed up)

    You are making yourself look bad.The war happened from 1998 to 1999.So , Milosevic being in Hague in 2001 seems normal.Not sure what your point is ?!

    Former high Yugoslav officials were affirmed guilty of murder, deportation, and inhumane treatment of Kosovo Albanians in 1999
    http://balkanwitness.glypx.com/articles-trial.htm

    Bosnia genocide by Sebians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide
    Kosovo genocide by Serbians http://www.gendercide.org/case_kosovo.html


    We might say here whatever we want , but facts are facts and the fact is that Milosevic and other serbian militaries have already been sentenced by jail by International Court of Hague.

    Best regards !
    I am saying, serbian people fought in Kosovo war way back in 1389, and before that Serbian people lived there, then how then suddenly Kosovo is Albanian territory? I know that majority on Kosovo were Serbian, so that is why i don't understand why are Albanians so crazy about that Kosovo when everyone knows that Serbian people fought for it and majority were Serbian there.
    Also you said why didn't Franjo Tudjman went to hague, and i replied that he died in 1999! Milosevic went to hague in 2001 so, if Franjo was alive then he would go there in 2001 more or less...
    Now thy are in court Serbs vs Croats and about those genocides..so we will see how wins... Trial started this year.

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    No one really cares in Europe about Albanian vs Serbia conflict. Or about Kosovo if that matters.
    It's a territory in which 2 million people live. We all know that Albanian population grew considerably and manage to get independence from Serbia.

    If economic and social growth comes to Kosovo, all those matters like the Serbian minorities right's and so on will be eventually overcome.
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    WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN SERBIA - ALBANIA ?

    FACT 1 :


    35th minute : bottles , smoke bombs and flares are being thrown toward the albanian player who is taking the corner kick.
    The referee is warning the captain Ivanovic , the lineman is leaving his position , 2 serbian players are trying to calm the fans.

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...e-albanese.jpg
    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...gli-spalti.jpg
    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...-e-oggetti.jpg
    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...e-sospesa..jpg


    FACT 2

    14th minute :
    flares being thrown in the pitch

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...9-fumogeno.jpg

    40th minute : bottle bwing thrown toward albanian player

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...erso-Balaj.jpg


    FACT 3 : The official Albanian flag , which must stand in the stadium , is hidden.

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...e-nascosta.jpg


    FACT 4 : Serbian fans chanting "kill and slaughter , so the albanians don't exist anymore " during the match ( before the drone showed up ).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxZU...91MJyuTQQvmFDw


    FACT 5 : NATO's flag being burned

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...della-Nato.jpg

    FACT 6 : A slogan "Kosovo is Serbia" is standing in the stadium...Is not that a provocation and political slogan , which are not allowd by Uefa and Fifa ?

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...%A8-Serbia.jpg

    FACT 7 : Another flare being thrown in the pitch

    http://www.toscananews.net/home/wp-c...e-fumogeni.jpg


    These all 7 facts occured before the drone showed up ,
    you still dare to say that everything was normal during the match ??
    You still dare to say that the fans were calm and peaceful during the match ??
    You still dare that the match was abandoned because of the drone ??

    The match should have been abandoned many times before the drone showed up in the air , because there were too many things : strong objects being thrown in the pitch , racist chants "kill kill albanians" towards albanian players , political slogans , burned flags and other things.

    So , shame on Serbia michel and not too Albania.This is a precedent for Serbia , they were warned by Uefa and Fifa many times ago and i think there will be a harsh punishment for them now.There will be a punishment for Albania too.
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    At the end of the day, FIFA is a bunch of pieces of shit for pairing us Serbians every year with either Croatia, Bosnia, Albania. Etc. It goes to show they are looking for ways to eliminate or kick us out of soccer competition. Serb fans weren't there to support the team since they don't care about that, they're there to intimate Albanians. Albania did the most stupid thing they could have ever done which was sending a drone over a soccer stadium, if you were the bigger and more intelligent side you would laugh at the pathetic attempt by Serbia to scare the opposing side. Instead you're presidents brother decided to fly a drone over a stadium, with the greater Albania flag, emphasizing Kosovo as part of that, making Albanians look pathetic as hell, Kosovo was handed to them because of the whack ass Americans who came in and got there fingers in there for no reason. Albanians will come out clean in this one, since NATO, USA, and Italy love them off, Serbia will lose the remainder of their games cause it doesn't look like anyone will play for these guys anymore after this.

    EDIT: These games should just be played in an empty stadium like CSKA and Bayern

    Good joke: What does Nokia and Serbia have in common?
    They both get smaller every year.

    Typical beef started by media and other sources, at the end of the day had we still been former Yugoslavia everyone would be at peace and we would be number one in the world with ease. But we are all too stubborn and live in the past.

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    At the end of the day, FIFA is a bunch of pieces of shit for pairing us Serbians every year with either Croatia, Bosnia, Albania
    This is the first time Serbia and Albania have been drawn in the same group.
    Serbia and Croatia have been drawn in the same group only once as far as i can remember.
    Serbia and Bosnia have never been drawn in the same group as far as i can remember.

    It goes to show they are looking for ways to eliminate or kick us out of soccer competition
    You are always making troubles , i can mention 3 cases in space of last 5 years

    1) Serbia u21 - England u21 , racism and violence from serbian towards english players.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ins-night.html

    2) Partizan - Toulouse , Toulouse's fan was killed in Belgrade.
    http://www.france24.com/en/20090929-...ligan-attack-/

    3)Italy - Genoa , serbian fans burning an albanian flag (what has to do Albania in this match ???)
    http://metro.co.uk/2010/10/12/italy-...-genoa-544868/

    And you still blame UEFA that are looking for "ordinary reasons" to kick you out ?

    Instead you're presidents brother decided to fly a drone over a stadium
    This is a speculation from your media just to give political sense to this match.There were 40 albanian fans in the VIP section , there was a very harsh control from police towards them , so your media is totally lying.
    If you'r interested , i will show you some photos of the person who was controlling the drone.The drone was being controlled from outside the stadium.

    As i said before , the match should have been abandoned too many times before the drone showed up (i listed you 7 facts , any of them with image , real footage and minutes )

    P:S Respect to Serbian and Albanian players , there was a fair play between them in the field , except some pushes for few seconds during the mess.
    Last edited by pellumb341; 10-17-14 at 11:26 AM.

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