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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Sarpsborg/Aalesund Under 3 goals @ -168...


    - 4 out of 4 games between these two in Sarpsborg have had less than 3 goals each time;

    - Only 2 out of Sarpsborg's last 17 home games have seen more than 3 goals in a game;

    - Aalesund have lowest goals per game average in the league (2.13). They have the scored second fewest goals on their travels (6) but also only conceded 9 (fourth best);

    - Sarpsborg top scorer Olanare (5 goals) has left for China.
    I feel like you lose just looking at these facts without watching the games. When you know the players, coach, formation, their styles of play you get a better feeling of if its going under or over. I feel like these should be used as something extra when you actually know the two teams involved well. I've made only a couple bets on teams i had no idea about using statistics like these. they didn't turn out good

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    Well that's why your stake should be in accordance. I'm not saying it's a certainty, I'm betting 0.5% of my bankroll on it! Sarpsborg Coach is Brian Deane (former Leeds striker) and his style is to play attacking passing football so obviously there is always a chance that there can be goals in games they are involved in -hence why the over 2.5 is at minus odds rather than +

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    Shakhtar Donetsk/Dinamo Kiev Under 3 goals @ -168;

    Shakhtar Donetsk +0.5 @ -108;


    This could well be a goal-fest as it is Super Cup Final so teams wont play as conservative as they might in the league. I think this game will be one extreme or the other, either a tight 1-0 either way or a 1-1 draw and extra time, or will be a thrashing by Dinamo due to the amount of key players missing for Shakhtar. Most Ukraine journalists are predicting 1-1 / 2-1.

    Shakhtar will be without most of their key South American players as they have refused to return to Ukraine after they traveled to France for the friendly against Lyon (hence them being underdogs when normally the lines would be other way around). These players missing include Douglas Costa (27 apps, 4 goals), Alex Texeira (27 apps, 6 goals), Facundo Ferreyra (13 apps, 6 goals), Fred (23 apps, 2 goals), Ismaily (11 apps, 2 goals), and Dentinho. Bernard (18 apps, 2 goals) wont be involved due to resting after World Cup, and Eduardo (23 apps, 9 goals) has returned to Brazil with Flamengo. So some significant absentees, however, Dinamo Kiev are also missing some important players including best defender Kacheridi, midfielders Garmash and Niko Kranjcar are still recovering from knocks, and Miguel Veloso and Jeremain Lens arent involved due to World Cup exertions. Nigerian Striker Ideye has also signed for West Brom so wont be involved. Also doubts about Belhanda's involvement as he may be leaving and was in the World Cup with Morocco of course.

    If you look at the predicted line-ups (taken from Football-Ukraine.com) it doesnt look like Dinamo Kiev's side is necessarily stronger on paper than Shakhtar's despite all the absentees. Shakhtar still have Srna, Rakitskiy, Fernando, Taison, Marlos, Ilsinho, and Adriano - all very good players, plus Gladkiy has returned from Karpaty where he scored 10 goals last season so they have plenty of options.

    If there is a goal in the opening 15 mins and game is at a face tempo then I will look to bet the Over 1.75 1st half live as a hedge.

    Predicted line-ups:

    Shakhtar ": Pyatov - Srna Rakytskyy Kucher, Shevchuk - Stepanenko, Fernando - Taison, Marlos, Ilsinho - Adriano. "

    Dinamo ": Artem - Silva , Dragovich, Selin, Makarenko - Sydorchuk, Arun, Garmash - Kalytvyntsev, Yarmolenko - Mbokani.
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    Great info man..Thanks for doing the legwork on this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Shakhtar Donetsk/Dinamo Kiev Under 3 goals @ -168;

    Shakhtar Donetsk +0.5 @ -108;


    This could well be a goal-fest as it is Super Cup Final so teams wont play as conservative as they might in the league. I think this game will be one extreme or the other, either a tight 1-0 either way or a 1-1 draw and extra time, or will be a thrashing by Dinamo due to the amount of key players missing for Shakhtar. Most Ukraine journalists are predicting 1-1 / 2-1.

    Shakhtar will be without most of their key South American players as they have refused to return to Ukraine after they traveled to France for the friendly against Lyon (hence them being underdogs when normally the lines would be other way around). These players missing include Douglas Costa (27 apps, 4 goals), Alex Texeira (27 apps, 6 goals), Facundo Ferreyra (13 apps, 6 goals), Fred (23 apps, 2 goals), Ismaily (11 apps, 2 goals), and Dentinho. Bernard (18 apps, 2 goals) wont be involved due to resting after World Cup, and Eduardo (23 apps, 9 goals) has returned to Brazil with Flamengo. So some significant absentees, however, Dinamo Kiev are also missing some important players including best defender Kacheridi, midfielders Garmash and Niko Kranjcar are still recovering from knocks, and Miguel Veloso and Jeremain Lens arent involved due to World Cup exertions. Nigerian Striker Ideye has also signed for West Brom so wont be involved. Also doubts about Belhanda's involvement as he may be leaving and was in the World Cup with Morocco of course.

    If you look at the predicted line-ups (taken from Football-Ukraine.com) it doesnt look like Dinamo Kiev's side is necessarily stronger on paper than Shakhtar's despite all the absentees. Shakhtar still have Srna, Rakitskiy, Fernando, Taison, Marlos, Ilsinho, and Adriano - all very good players, plus Gladkiy has returned from Karpaty where he scored 10 goals last season so they have plenty of options.

    If there is a goal in the opening 15 mins and game is at a face tempo then I will look to bet the Over 1.75 1st half live as a hedge.

    Predicted line-ups:

    Shakhtar ": Pyatov - Srna Rakytskyy Kucher, Shevchuk - Stepanenko, Fernando - Taison, Marlos, Ilsinho - Adriano. "

    Dinamo ": Artem - Silva , Dragovich, Selin, Makarenko - Sydorchuk, Arun, Garmash - Kalytvyntsev, Yarmolenko - Mbokani.
    great information i like this

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    Small degen play on Cardiff/Amkar Perm Over 1 goal 1st half @ +105...

    Cardiff's preseason games so far have had goals. They beat 1860 Munich 3-2 the other day in very hot conditions (will be cooler today) and had a shiiit load of chances. They were getting 4 players in the box everytime and could of been 3-0 up in opening 20 mins.
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    Was gonna play the Over 1 1st half live in Leverkusen/Loko at 10 min mark. Leverkusen scored in opening minute!

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    probably play the over 1.75 before 15 min mark

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    fuuck sake, 2-0 already! should of just played the over 1.25 before game started

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Small degen play on Cardiff/Amkar Perm Over 1 goal 1st half @ +105...

    Cardiff's preseason games so far have had goals. They beat 1860 Munich 3-2 the other day in very hot conditions (will be cooler today) and had a shiiit load of chances. They were getting 4 players in the box everytime and could of been 3-0 up in opening 20 mins.
    2-0 Amkar after 35 mins

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    Well done mate , keep those plays coming :,)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Small degen play on Cardiff/Amkar Perm Over 1 goal 1st half @ +105...

    Cardiff's preseason games so far have had goals. They beat 1860 Munich 3-2 the other day in very hot conditions (will be cooler today) and had a shiiit load of chances. They were getting 4 players in the box everytime and could of been 3-0 up in opening 20 mins.
    can"t see over 1 goal at befair or something like under 3 or is it that they dont offer this kind of bet.Big v which book do u use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chidondollars View Post
    can"t see over 1 goal at befair or something like under 3 or is it that they dont offer this kind of bet.Big v which book do u use?
    I use Pinnacle. Game is just about to finish now so u were probably too late. Bet365 took it down at ht tho so maybe they all did

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    Grimsby/Doncaster Rovers Over 1 goal 1st half @ +105...

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    Sarpsborg 2-0 up already so tht is dead! Probably will finish 3-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Grimsby/Doncaster Rovers Over 1 goal 1st half @ +105...
    Doncaster take the lead after 2 mins

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    Lol sarpsborg come out and score a third straight away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Grimsby/Doncaster Rovers Over 1 goal 1st half @ +105...
    2-0 Doncaster after 20 mins

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    Peterborough/Wolves Over 1.75 goals 1st half @ +106 live (16th min)...

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    Peterborough/Wolves Over 3.75 goals live @ -147... (62 mins)

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    Fuuck was just about to play the over in Everton game and they score

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    Only 1 more goal in wolves game but 2 more in everton

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    Icasa/Portuguesa Under 1 goal 1st half @ -161 live (3 mins)...

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    Atletico Go/Oeste Under 3.5 goals @ -161 live (1-0, 17 mins);

    Figueirense/Brgantino Under 2 goals live @ -133 (0-0, 16 mins)...

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    Ahh Bragantino score with their first shot of course

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    Wellington Phoenix/West Ham Under 4 goals @ -135 live (1-0, 13 mins)...
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    2-0 Prem defense my ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    2-0 Prem defense my ass
    I can see a push at worst. If you can get through the first 20 minutes the last will be subs and Wellington trying to claim a big scalp.

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    Arbing out with Over 4 at HT @ +154

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    See you got out, took it live after the third only had to sweat that Downing strike that was a fantastic save.

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    yeah would of been a goal fest if I'd of left it!

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    Ulsan/Jeonbuk Over 0.75 goals 1st half @ Evens (13 mins)...

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    koreans not interested in scoring! meanwhile Yokohama/Vissel which is was gonna play over in has two quickfire goals

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    not one goal in all the korea games

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    Me agree. Just wasn't our luck.

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