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    Here’s how much money was burned trying to stop Donald Trump
    Or, at least, here's *part* of the money.

    WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM|BY PHILIP BUMP










    Why are still continually highlighting to americans how cognitively inept they are??

    You think US non trumptards are proud of this??

    Talk about rubbing it in...

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    The entire United States political system is a debacle and a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Post that from ya Mud hut did you??

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    Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump has put Sen. Elizabeth Warren (R-Mass.) in his crosshairs.

    Trump on Friday night resurrected an old attack about Warren’s heritage and labeled her a “goofus” and a “basket case,” the Washington Post reported.

    "Her whole career is a fraud because she goes out and she says she's a Native American,” Trump told supporters at a rally in Oregon.

    “She is a Native American, five percent. And therefore her whole career because she was a minority — it's a disgrace what's going on in our country.”


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    Trump train has a big effect on men and women alike.

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    A little long winded but solid article...

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    Our Awful Elites Gutted America. Now They Dare Ring Alarms About Trump, Sanders—And Cast Themselves as Saviors

    Both parties ignored workers, spewed hate, enriched themselves, hollowed out democracy. Now the problem's populism?



    This week, on the night of the Indiana primary, I read one of the most loathsome political screeds it has been my misfortune to encounter.
    It was an alarm bell raised by Andrew Sullivan, arguably the greatest hypocrite of the Bush era, on par with his partner in many crimes Christopher Hitchens (remember “Islamofascism?”). Sullivan proclaims that the election of Trump would be an “extinction-level” event. Well, perhaps it will be.
    But the extinction Sullivan is most worried about is clearly that of his own breed of callous elites, who could care less about normal human beings who do not have decent jobs and who live in crappy housing and who are so desperate to find a way out of the trap that even someone like Trump starts sounding rational to them.

    Now this panic alert, designed to get us in line behind Hillary, is raised by the man who ended The New Republic as we knew it (which then went on to end and then end again), promoting racist and imperialist dogma during his reign at the magazine in the 1990s, and then, with his finger in the wind (which to him and that other arch-hypocrite Hitchens meant being like George Orwell), turned into one of the biggest shills for the war on terror, the Iraq war, the whole works, all the while denouncing the fifth column within our ranks. This so-called journalist, who has no record of liberal consistency, who keeps shifting to whoever holds moral power at any given moment, is scaring us about the mortal threat that is Trump.

    No, the danger is the elites, who have made such a joke of the democratic process, who have so perverted and rotted it from within, that the entire edifice is crumbling (to the consternation of the elites). Both parties are in terminal decline after forty years of ignoring the travails of the average worker (the Republicans admit they’re in the intensive care unit, while the Democrats calling for Sanders to quit already have yet to come around to admitting that they might have the flu), and voters on both right and left have at last—and this is a breath of relief—stopped caring about the cultural distractions that have kept the elites in power. No, they want their jobs back, even if it means building a wall, keeping Muslims out, deporting the illegals, and starting trade wars with China and Japan—because what else did the elites give them, they’re still opposing a living wage!

    Sullivan comes right out and says it: it’s all because of too much democracy, the same bugbear elites on both sides have been offended by since the “crisis of excess democracy” in the mid-1970s, the same lament that Sullivan’s masters in the ivory tower, Samuel P. Huntington and others, have been leveling ever since they made it their job to put the exuberance of the late sixties and early seventies to rest once and for all. So they engineered the neoliberal revolution, where the “qualified” elites are firmly in charge, and the only way to get ahead is not democratic (or individualist) unpredictability—and who is a greater exemplar of unpredictability than Trump?—but elite planning, a certain coldhearted “rationality” that is as efficient as any totalitarian system ever was in sidelining those who do not have what it takes to succeed.

    So, the problem, according to all the elites, is too much democracy. Thank you Andrew Sullivan, a Harvard humanities education—all that Plato you read!—was hardly ever put to worse use in the four-hundred-year annals of the institution.

    You, Andrew Sullivan, and the Democratic party flacks who want the Bernie supporters to throw our lot behind the most compromised Democratic candidate of all time, Hillary Clinton, and you, who are so worried about the wall and the ban on Muslims and the attack on civil liberties, will you please tell us who started it all?

    You did!
    You’ve all now, the elite punditocracy on either spectrum, suddenly become nostalgic for George W. Bush, because he didn’t—well, not always—use the crude and blatant vocabulary that Trump deploys to demonize Mexicans and Arabs and Muslims and foreigners. But Bush is the one who actually implemented, with your full support, plans to surveil, discriminate against (in immigration proceedings), and impose a de facto bar on Muslims from the “wrong countries” that is still, under Barack Obama, a severe disability on Muslims who may want to emigrate to this country.
    Where were you elites when Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the Democratic party elite spoke as one with Republicans on endlessly strengthening border security, on the need to mercilessly enforce immigration laws, on imposing such punitive measures against potential legalization that it becomes possible only in theory not in reality?

    The natural conclusion of these ideas is the literal wall, but Trump didn’t start it, he’s only putting the finishing touches on the discourse that you elites, on both sides, have inflamed for twenty-plus years. Bill Clinton started the demonization of immigrants—legal immigrants were made ineligible for benefits—for the first time since the liberalization of immigration laws in 1965. Bill Clinton ended welfare, tapping into racist discourse about African Americans, and permanently unmoored millions of people from the social safety net. No, Trump didn’t start any of it, Paul Begala and Karl Rove, representing both parties, and the elite interests they represent, poisoned the discourse.

    Elites on both sides insisted on not addressing the root causes of economic dissatisfaction, hence the long-foreseen rise of Trump. Paul Krugman, a Hillary acolyte, is nothing more than a neoliberal, whose prescriptions always stay strictly within orthodox parameters. Yet he was construed as some sort of a liberal lion during the Bush and Obama years. Not for him any of Bernie’s “radical” measures to ensure economic justice and fairness. Oh no, we have to stay within the orthodoxies of the economics profession. Now he’s all offended about Trump!

    The worst offenders of all are the American left’s cultural warriors, who daily wage some new battle over some imagined cultural offense, which has nothing to do with the lives of normal people but only the highly tuned sensibilities of those in the academic, publishing, and media ecospheres.
    The Hillary supporters have the authoritarian mentality of small property owners. They are the mirror image of the “realist” Trump supporters, the difference being that the Trump supporters fall below the median income level, and are distressed and insecure, while the Hillary supporters stand above the median income level, and are prosperous but still insecure.
    To manipulate them, the Democratic and Republican elites have both played a double game for forty years and have gotten away with it. They have incrementally yet quite comprehensively seized all economic and political power for themselves. They have perverted free media and even such basics of the democratic process as voting and accountability in elections. Elites on both sides have collaborated to engineer a revolution of economic decline for the working person, until the situation has reached unbearable proportions. The stock market may be doing well, and unemployment may theoretically be low, but people can’t afford housing and food, they can’t pay back student loans and other debts, their lives, wherever they live in this transformed country, are full of such misery that there is not a single word that an establishment candidate like Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush says that makes sense to them.





    This time, I truly believe, there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between them. When they did have a difference to choose from—i.e., the clear progressive choice, Bernie over Hillary, who consistently demonstrates beating Trump by double the margins Hillary does—the elites went for Hillary, even though she poses the greater risk of inaugurating Trump as president. And now you want us to listen to your panic alarms?

    The game, for the elites, is over. This is true no matter what happens with the Sanders campaign. The Republican party as we have known it since the Reagan consensus (dating back to 1976) is over. The Democratic party doesn’t know it yet, but Bill Clinton’s neoliberalism (and what followed in his wake with complicity with Bush junior, and the continuation of Bush junior’s imperialist policies with Barack Obama) is also over, or well on its way to being over. The elites are in a cataclysmic state of panic, they don’t know whether to look right or left, they have no idea what to do with Trump, they don’t know what to do with the Bernie diehards, they have no idea how to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

    And these same elites, both liberal and conservative, these same journalists and celebrities, became quite comfortable with Bush once the war on terror was on. They’ll get used to Trump too, his level of fascist escalation will soon be presented byThe Times and other institutions as something our democracy can handle, just as they continually assured us during those eight years of gloom that our democracy could easily take care of Bush. We, the citizens, don’t need to get our hands dirty with implementing checks and balances, the elites will do it on our behalf. Soon, once he starts talking to the elites, you won’t even be that afraid of Trump. Wait, he’s the one who wants to make America great again, and what’s so wrong with that?

    The election of Trump would end the Republican party as we know it, but more refreshingly it would also end the Democratic party as we know it. The limits of the academic left’s distracting cultural discourse in keeping economic dissatisfaction in check would be fully exposed. Trump threatens the stability of the fearmongering discourse of Sullivan and his like. The threat to their monopoly of discourse is the real reason for the panic.

    Oh, and Hillary, good luck fighting Trump with your poll-tested reactions. Your calculated “offenses” against his offensiveness against women or minorities or Muslims are going to be as successful as the sixteen Republicans who’ve already tried it. You won’t be able to take on Trump because you do not speak the truth, you speak only elite mumbo-jumbo. Trump doesn’t speak the truth either, but he’s responding to something in the air that has an element of truth, and you don’t even go that far, you speak to a state of affairs—a meritocratic, democratic, pluralist America—that doesn’t even exist.

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    All Sanders supporters should be made to live and WORK in Cuba or Venezuela for 90 days.



    They will either convert to che guevara rebels or come crying back to mommy's house in the good ole USA.

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    I'm ready for Trump to start hitting Hillary over her sitting on the board of Walmart for 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    All Sanders supporters should be made to live and WORK in Cuba or Venezuela for 90 days.



    They will either convert to che guevara rebels or come crying back to mommy's house in the good ole USA.
    And Trump supporters should go live and work in North Korea for 90 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    And Trump supporters should go live and work in North Korea for 90 days.

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    A vote for Trump is a vote for Icahn.

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    Donald J. Trump said he would not rule out an effort to remove Representative Paul D. Ryan as chairman of the Republican National Convention if he did not endorse Mr. Trump’s candidacy.

    Mr. Trump stopped short of calling for Mr. Ryan, the speaker of the House, to step down from his convention role. But in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Mr. Trump said there could be consequences in the event that Mr. Ryan continued withholding his support.

    “I will give you a very solid answer, if that happens, about one minute after that happens, O.K.?” Mr. Trump said. “There’s no reason to give it right now, but I’ll be very quick with the answer.”

    Mr. Trump has shown little interest over the last few days in placating his critics inside the party, including Mr. Ryan. Mr. Ryan, a representative from Wisconsin, said on Thursday that he was not ready to endorse Mr. Trump, citing reservations about his political style and policy agenda. The two men are scheduled to meet privately in Washington next week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Donald J. Trump said he would not rule out an effort to remove Representative Paul D. Ryan as chairman of the Republican National Convention if he did not endorse Mr. Trump’s candidacy.

    Mr. Trump stopped short of calling for Mr. Ryan, the speaker of the House, to step down from his convention role. But in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Mr. Trump said there could be consequences in the event that Mr. Ryan continued withholding his support.

    “I will give you a very solid answer, if that happens, about one minute after that happens, O.K.?” Mr. Trump said. “There’s no reason to give it right now, but I’ll be very quick with the answer.”

    Mr. Trump has shown little interest over the last few days in placating his critics inside the party, including Mr. Ryan. Mr. Ryan, a representative from Wisconsin, said on Thursday that he was not ready to endorse Mr. Trump, citing reservations about his political style and policy agenda. The two men are scheduled to meet privately in Washington next week.


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    This is where Ive always had a problem with Trump, if you dont say sweet things about him youre automatically his enemy. On every occasion he'll speak about a person in grandiose fashion to the point of overexaggeration if they say nice things about him, but if they dont then he'll try and rip that person to shreds. This is a significant character flaw that he's shown for the better part of 50 years. Its childlike and something he's never even remotely tried to work on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    This is where Ive always had a problem with Trump, if you dont say sweet things about him youre automatically his enemy. On every occasion he'll speak about a person in grandiose fashion if they say nice things about him, but if they dont then he'll try and rip that person to shreds. This is a significant character flaw that he's shown for the better part of 50 years. Its kid-like and something he's never even remotely tried to work on.
    That's the appeal of Trump. He's real. He's not a pussy. He fights back when attacked. Boo Fukking hoo your feelings and political correctness nonsense.

    We need more people who speak their minds rather than pretend to be something they aren't just to appease the easily offended.

    Some might say ...go back to your safe space and pick up some tampons on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Consider the ironic source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    That's the appeal of Trump. He's real. He's not a pussy. He fights back when attacked. Boo Fukking hoo your feelings and political correctness nonsense.

    We need more people who speak their minds rather than pretend to be something they aren't just to appease the easily offended.

    Some might say ...go back to your safe space and pick up some tampons on the way.
    How is that real, its the epitome of being fake actually. Just because someone says or thinks differently than me doesnt make them my enemy. Only irrational people operate like that. Nobody is going to agree with you all the time, I still communicate with you guys on a respectful level even though we disagree on many political things or is it only things about Trump. When someone says something positive about him then he automatically says positive over the top things about them, when in reality he may not even like that person. Now all of the nice things he's said about the Clinton's in the past he is going to say only bad things now only because he's running against her, if he wasnt he wouldnt say anything negative about her, not to mention they are friends, politics as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    How is that real, its the epitome of being fake actually. Just because someone says or thinks differently than me doesnt make them my enemy. Only irrational people operate like that. Nobody is going to agree with you all the time, I still communicate with you guys on a respectful level even though we disagree on many political things or is it only things about Trump. When someone says something positive about him then he automatically says positive over the top things about them, when in reality he may not even like that person.
    what you're doing, is making up an argument and then attempting to justify it by discrediting them. This is a common tactic used by those who are blinded by heavy bias. You love to categorize people in an attempt to justify your position.

    Trump is doing what he needs to do to win. After the game is over, most of the time it's water under the bridge. That goes with almost any aspect of life. Look at sports for example. Did you see the Yankees game last night? Is Ortiz and irrational person? Did you see him go nuts after the ump called a ball a strike. No. He's a human who felt he was wronged. He lost it. He's isn't the first to do so and certainly won't be the last. Humans do that time to time. No one is perfect. Hockey players fight on the ice and go for beers after the game. We can go on and on with examples.

    People are just mad because Trump is better at the gutter talk than they are. They have known this forever but still attack him knowing what the outcome will be. Yet, they can't help themselves. You could make a better argument that they are the irrational ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    what you're doing, is making up an argument and then attempting to justify it by discrediting them. This is a common tactic used by those who are blinded by heavy bias. You love to categorize people in an attempt to justify your position.

    Trump is doing what he needs to do to win. After the game is over, most of the time it's water under the bridge. That goes with almost any aspect of life. Look at sports for example. Did you see the Yankees game last night? Is Ortiz and irrational person? Did you see him go nuts after the ump called a ball a strike. No. He's a human who felt he was wronged. He lost it. He's isn't the first to do so and certainly won't be the last. Humans do that time to time. No one is perfect. Hockey players fight on the ice and go for beers after the game. We can go on and on with examples.

    People are just mad because Trump is better at the gutter talk than they are. They have known this forever but still attack him knowing what the outcome will be. Yet, they can't help themselves. You could make a better argument that they are the irrational ones.
    No, no, and no. Ortiz doesnt apply here either, whom I agree with. Trump's reasons for doing what he does has nothing to do with being noble. I get he's going to discredit her and say negative things about her even though theyre friends, I get that, I would do the same if I was running against her if we were friends. The difference with Trump and all of his tirades against whomever doesnt agree with him is that for him its all about image. He has an incurable disease that plagues him with maintaining an image. He cares dramatically what the public thinks about him. He's been against any and everything that in his mind may for one second do any sort of damage to the way anyone remotely views him. In his mind his image is all he has, he's no different than a shyster who sells snake oil who although may be struggling himself, maintains a pricey look about them, faking it until they make it, in order to trick the next victim in order to sell his oil and drain every nickel from the deceived. Its Trump's name that sells, the licensing brand, the image. This is the same guy who'd have his staff rush to newspaper stands every morning and cut out any negative articles about him. I get it, Shruter. This mindset may also be akin to the very fact that no matter what Donald does, no matter how negative I could even dream, you would never say it was bad, negative, or a wrong thing, but rather the reverse, something positive and good, that in itself is a problem also. Brooks would define that a sheep, but only if on the other side.

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    Who would have thought when all the candidates signed the pledge to support the nominee, that Jeb would be the one to break it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    No, no, and no. Ortiz doesnt apply here either, whom I agree with. Trump's reasons for doing what he does has nothing to do with being noble. I get he's going to discredit her and say negative things about her even though theyre friends, I get that, I would do the same if I was running against her if we were friends. The difference with Trump and all of his tirades against whomever doesnt agree with him is that for him its all about image. He has an incurable disease that plagues him with maintaining an image. He cares dramatically what the public thinks about him. He's been against any and everything that in his mind may for one second do any sort of damage to the way anyone remotely views him. In his mind his image is all he has, he's no different than a shyster who sells snake oil who although may be struggling himself, maintains a pricey look about them, faking it until they make it, in order to trick the next victim in order to sell his oil and drain every nickel from the deceived. Its Trump's name that sells, the licensing brand, the image. This is the same guy who'd have his staff rush to newspaper stands every morning and cut out any negative articles about him. I get it, Shruter. This mindset may also be akin to the very fact that no matter what Donald does, no matter how negative I could even dream, you would never say it was bad, negative, or a wrong thing, but rather the reverse, something positive and good, that in itself is a problem also. Brooks would define that a sheep, but only if on the other side.
    Nailed It. Do we really want a master self promoter running the country. Sounds dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Who would have thought when all the candidates signed the pledge to support the nominee, that Jeb would be the one to break it.
    They all knew the pledge was BS before the ink was dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks26 View Post
    Nailed It. Do we really want a master self promoter running the country. Sounds dangerous.
    Please tell me you're being sarcastic....are you not aware of the Clinton Brand that has been a tracking critics for decades and now they Trump fires back at people he's the one dangerous????

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Please tell me you're being sarcastic....are you not aware of the Clinton Brand that has been a tracking critics for decades and now they Trump fires back at people he's the one dangerous????
    No not being sarcastic, in some ways the Clinton's are more dangerous than Trump. They both suck, & the American people should not have to choose who sucks the less.

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