[packattack]

What is DGS?

[packattack]

Well, i can only go by what i have experienced personally. Kennedy is the one i mainly dealt with. He and Andrew . I have to say that when i would call in and talk to others there i was not very happy with how i was treated at times. So i tried to just deal with Kennedy.

Once i was even going back and forth on trying to give them BACK money on a bet i lost and it was added in as a win. They actually gave me a hassle on that and even told Kennedy in an e-mail i had no case. WTH case for what? Trying to argue that i did not want to be credited for a win when it was a loss.

Towards the end when i was getting delays in payments it was not Kennedy that sent e-mails. Also it was not Andrew that sent one that said i would have to wait until 5/1 at the beginning of March. At this time was when Kennedy was on vacation.

I really do not know what to think about 2 employees stealing and leaving. They are either telling the truth or just trying to blame someone else for them not paying. But if they start paying everyone they owe that would be a good start. I still do not know about the $51000 the guy said he won in casino i still would have loved to see the cards .

As for this other book i hear they will bit the amount in there with a 10Xs rollover? So BM will possibly pay it still but they will get that at the new one? Or are they saying if they do that you will never get your cash at BM?

What I have been told is that the cash at CRS and BM are completely separate. If you hit the rollover in your account they will pay you. If during that time BM decides to pay you that money is yours also

[tomallen123]

10x rollover? That guy with 51k would have to turnover 510k

[captrobey]

What I have been told is that the cash at CRS and BM are completely separate. If you hit the rollover in your account they will pay you. If during that time BM decides to pay you that money is yours also

Well they may as well give it a shot then if they have nothing to really lose and just hope BM still pays them.

[packattack]

Word is that Payouts should resume with in the next few weeks well before the 60 days are up. Will keep everyone up to date.

[DwightShrute]

BetMayor: Merge or Bailout for Players?

By: Jim Quinn - Exlcusive to OSGA
Published: Apr 29, 2015

Even after 18 years in the online gambling industry, we occasionally see something new . . . and bizarre. That is the only way to describe the situation going on with BetMayor right now.

BetMayor started the football season of 2014 very strong. They went out and coerced clerks from top name sportsbooks to come work at BetMayor and have them recruit clients to come to play at the new book. This allowed BetMayor to hit the ground running and the first few months went well for the sportsbook. However, for the last several months slow pay complaints were followed by no pay complaints and now this.

Kennedy , a former clerk at BetMayor, who is known from many books he has worked at, is contacting his former customers and giving them their entire balance from Betmayor to play at a brand new sportsbook CRSportsBet. And by brand new we mean last week. He sent an email to customers regarding this new book stating of BetMayor, "The things you have been told are not true or correct, and I will not stand idly by while seeing my valued customers given the short end of the stick with a "wait and see" overtone." He does add in that, "BetMayor intends to honor all accounts and balances on all existing accounts as of today."

Meanwhile, BetMayor is telling their customers that they are in the process of a merger with a Panamanian company, Media-Tech, Inc. They sent out a note to current players and we received a copy of it stating that, "The principals of Media-Tech are experienced in the venture capital and mergers & acquisitions business and have been active for over 9 years." According the note the company will be acquiring 3 'high-end' sportsbooks and two casinos. But, in the meantime, for at least 60 days, no BetMayor players will be paid.

Kennedy is jumping on this and has offered players to transfer their balances to CRSportsBet and all they will have to do is complete a 10 time rollover and they will be paid out. This is highly unusual in the sportsbook world today. Every book we have ever tried to do a 'bailout' with, in the last decade, ALL have required a deposit of some kind from players. No legitimate sportsbook has ever offered to take on balances with no strings attached due to exposure and other factors.



We reached out to Kennedy at CRSportsBet and finally were able to connect with him today on chat. He claims that the people behind CRSportsBet have been behind several other sportsbooks in Costa Rica and that they have the money to support the balances from BetMayor players and run a full service sportsbook. However, he did add that not all players will be offered this new deal. Instead Kennedy, who has a good reputation with players, said, "I have given players that I know (some of which have been at various books with me for 10 years) a viable option in the meantime to continue to play with someone they know and allow them to sit on their BetMayor balances."

We spoke with Jeff at BetMayor, as well, who insisted that the impending merger is true. He stated several times that players have been paid by BetMayor and will continue to be paid, just not for the next 60 days. He said that BetMayor is 'going nowhere' and will pay all players once a merger is completed.

We did some research on Media-Tech, Inc and found the following: The company website was initiated on April 23, 2015. When we tried to email the address posted on the website, the emails bounced. We called the phone number listed on the Media-Tech website and the number didn't ring, let alone get answered. And to top it off, the web domain is registered for only one year.

Jeff also informed us of something that truly dirtied the waters in this situation. He stated that 'Andrew' who was the CFO at BetMayor, stole $100K from BetMayor and he and Kennedy used that to start CRSportsBet. If this is true, CRSportsBet is vastly underfunded and their plan of covering the outstanding balances owed to BetMayor players, is more than just flawed, it's a twisted ponzi scheme that relies on players to lose who had previously won at BetMayor. Kennedy did not confirm any money being stolen by the former CFO of BetMayor, nor did he acknowledge the presence of anyone but himself from BetMayor currently working at CRSportsBet.

We have seen a lot over the years and usually can give affected players some direction. But this case leaves us baffled. On one hand we have Jeff and BetMayor, who owe out big money and if they were going to stiff players, they would have done so by now. On the other hand we have this new sportsbook that appears to be an implosion waiting to happen.

In our opinion, with all of this occurring players should not send money right now to either book! BetMayor players are urged to hang in there, and check back with OSGA often as this story is most likely, still be unfolding. Hopefully, before 60 days are up, we can provide some solid answers.

http://www.osga.com/online_gaming_ar...8#.VUI0VCFViko

[tomallen123]

What a clusterfuck

[DwightShrute]

Liars and thieves.

And yet, there are going to be guys that will go and play there knowing what happened here. Heck, there will probably be a couple posters that will defend their new shitty book. In fact, they will probably rave at how great their bonuses are, how they got paid quick, how nice they are and even post their picks to show how much money their are winning but probably never actually getting.

Kennedy will surely make up some story he knows will work on certain players and they will send him their money and start gambling there. "No Bob, we are not affiliated with Betmayor at all" ..... "Errr yes I did work there and yes I knew they weren't paying their players and yes its true that even up to the last days knowing of the pending closing of Betmayor, I was asking players to make deposits knowing that we were closing shop, it will be different here. Trust me Bob."

Andrew is probably already planning on how to rip off the new book and leaving the players high and dry once again.

I bet Jeff (Rodrigo) is in on all this. This is a story he and Andrew made up for Kennedy to spew for the next few months. Think about it. Stole a 100K and nothing happened? We do have police here in Costa Rica. He knows where he lives. I know one thing, if someone stole 100K from you or me, shit's gonna happen to him right?

Eventually, {BetMayor} will use new aliases and send a letter to their handful of new disappointed players informing them of some bullshit story as to how their new crsportsbet will be ceasing operations (maybe Jeff will steal 100K from them this time?) but hey .... there's great news .... they are opening a new one!!! Yippie!

Look at the ratings at sbr. They are very good indicator.

[DimSum]

I was thinking the same. There's no merge, the 60 days payout hold is to prevent players from doing cc. Chargebckk. But Jeff told me I will get paid next week so we'll see.

[captrobey]

Liars and thieves.

And yet, there are going to be guys that will go and play there knowing what happened here. Heck, there will probably be a couple posters that will defend their new shitty book. In fact, they will probably rave at how great their bonuses are, how they got paid quick, how nice they are and even post their picks to show how much money their are winning but probably never actually getting.

Kennedy will surely make up some story he knows will work on certain players and they will send him their money and start gambling there. "No Bob, we are not affiliated with Betmayor at all" ..... "Errr yes I did work there and yes I knew they weren't paying their players and yes its true that even up to the last days knowing of the pending closing of Betmayor, I was asking players to make deposits knowing that we were closing shop, it will be different here. Trust me Bob."

Andrew is probably already planning on how to rip off the new book and leaving the players high and dry once again.

I bet Jeff (Rodrigo) is in on all this. This is a story he and Andrew made up for Kennedy to spew for the next few months. Think about it. Stole a 100K and nothing happened? We do have police here in Costa Rica. He knows where he lives. I know one thing, if some stole 100K from me, shit's gonna happen to him.

Eventually, Andrew (Fabian, maydacr.com) and Kennedy (Charles) will use new aliases and send a letter to their handful of new disappointed players informing them of some bullshit story as to how their new crsportsbet will be ceasing operations (maybe Jeff will steal 100K from them?) but hey .... there's great news .... they are opening a new one!!! Yippie!

Look at the ratings at sbr. They are very good indicator.

I assume i am one of the people you are talking about. I will probably do the same thing i did before i tried out Betmayor. I will go by what OSGA said.

Before i deposited there they said they were good to give a try . Once i did deposit there once i actually got paid i let everyone know . I did get a total of $13000 from BM before things went weird there the last month. But it was hard not playing there because they had everything i wanted all right there .When i won the first $5000 i would have never stayed there if they stiffed me. But they did not and they paid others too. In the end that last month i was not happy. I did have $3000 i wanted to cash out and i ended up losing it because i was told i would have to wait almost a month to get paid. After that i did not deposit i wanted to wait until i saw they paid everyone else.

Then the $51000 casino thing popped up. I do not know what to think of that. Jeff called me and i was on the phone awhile with him. I asked about that and i told him i do find it amazing he won that much after losing more hands then he won. I also played in this casino a few times and it was so bad i had to have it blocked. I won about 15% of the hands. I wish i could have seen the hands.From what i got it seems he lost all the low hands and won all the large bets. I do not have enough info to pick a side. But i did tell Jeff if he cheated he should not be paid. If he figured out somehow on his own without actually cheating what the hands were going to be i can see blocking the casino but he should still be paid what he won if he never actually cheated.

But i will admit yes i will deposit at Betmayor again down the road IF they pay every single person they owe cash to . I will not count the guy who won the $51000 because i do not have enough info.

Do i think Kennedy and Andrew stole from BM . I do not know maybe like you say they are all in on it together. This whole thing is weird .But i think OSGA has it right and i will go by what they say like i did before. If they pay who they still owe in the next 2 months after this merger i will probably deposit there again.

In the meantime for now i will probably deposit at Jazz and give them a try lol.

[captrobey]

I was thinking the same. There's no merge, the 60 days payout hold is to prevent players from doing cc. Chargebckk. But Jeff told me I will get paid next week so we'll see.

If they do pay everyone on here that they owe i will deposit there again but not before.

[DwightShrute]

Do i think Kennedy and Andrew stole from BM . I do not know maybe like you say they are all in on it together. This whole thing is weird .But i think OSGA has it right and i will go by what they say like i did before. If they pay who they still owe in the next 2 months after this merger i will probably deposit there again.

Thinking is different from knowing. Admittedly I don't know 100% either but I know much more. Andrew and Jeff do. But back to my previous statement, if someone steals 100K from you do you really think they can just go across the street, install internet and put up another sign ... "Open for Business? There are laws here also. No chance. Jeff only needs to call the cops and Andrew is toast. Kennedy also for that matter. Gee I wonder why this isn't the case? You are taking the word of liars and cheats. Kennedy never stole any money. He stole leads from Betmayor. For a decade that's all he's ever done. Book to book he goes grabbing more players along they way. Lies and steals. He has the gift of gab and some gamblers buy what he's selling obviously.

Last I heard is they had less than 25 players before they decided to close shop. Its off season, so I imagine even less after March Madness. Do the math. Robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn't last long. You were lucky enough to be Paul but there are many Peter's at that book. Then a Peter hit big for 51K. Uh oh! What do we do guys?

So they come up with plan ..."let's do this guys .... Andrew ... you pretend to steal 100K (like they even had 100K. No chance!) and open up a new shop and I will play the victim. I won't call the cops or anything like that of course. We'll get Kennedy to email our players and delay shit until hopefully football season gets here." Which coincidentally is just a little over 2 months from now and when people start thinking pre-season football. Hmmmm. I am sure its just a coincidence. If Andrew wanted to rip Jeff off, he would have done it during football or March Madness. That's much more believable. Again, no chance they had 100K sitting in the bank to steal anyways, so its a mute point.

Its hard to believe that knowing all this, you'd still be willing to send them money. Good grief. Good luck if you decide going there when they finally open shop. There are far too many sold books out there to be risking your money with these scumbags.

[captrobey]

Thinking is different from knowing. Admittedly I don't know 100% either but I know much more. Andrew and Jeff do. But back to my previous statement, if someone steals 100K from you do you really think they can just go across the street, install internet and put up another sign ... "Open for Business? There are laws here also. No chance. Jeff only needs to call the cops and Andrew is toast. Kennedy also for that matter. Gee I wonder why this isn't the case? You are taking the word of liars and cheats. Kennedy never stole any money. He stole leads from Betmayor. For a decade that's all he's ever done. Book to book he goes grabbing more players along they way. Lies and steals. He has the gift of gab and some gamblers buy what he's selling obviously.

Last I heard is they had less than 25 players before they decided to close shop. Its off season, so I imagine even less after March Madness. Do the math. Robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn't last long. You were lucky enough to be Paul but there are many Peter's at that book. Then a Peter hit big for 51K. Uh oh! What do we do guys?

So they come up with plan ..."let's do this guys .... Andrew ... you pretend to steal 100K (like they even had 100K. No chance!) and open up a new shop and I will play the victim. I won't call the cops or anything like that of course. We'll get Kennedy to email our players and delay shit until hopefully football season gets here." That's much more believable.

Its hard to believe that knowing all this, you'd still be willing to send them money. Good grief. Good luck if you decide going there when they finally open shop. There are far too many sold books out there to be risking your money with these scumbags.

That is why i am going to deposit somewhere else (I am looking at Jazz) and if i see that everyone has been paid and caught up at BM i will deposit there again but only after i see that has happened. I got that same link from OSGA i actually e-mailed them a few days back.It seems they are saying after 2 months if BM has paid who they owe they may be trusted i agree with that. If they have no intention of paying then like you said they are using this 2 months as a stale tactic and will not pay anyone. For now until i see what happens in a couple of months i will deposit at Jazz . They have good bonuses and limits not as good as BM but better then most.

[DwightShrute]

I said my peace. I am a bettor also, I don't want to see people get ripped off. Good luck to everyone and I hope we don't get a new thread in the future with CRSportsBet where they ripped off players as Betmayor.

[DimSum]

I'll find out next week if they gonna pay me or not. Will update here next week

[captrobey]

I'll find out next week if they gonna pay me or not. Will update here next week

Please do keep us updated Dim.

[Fire in da hole]

I actually received one or two emails from Kennedy.... I never deposited with the book, but for some reason he sent me the emails.

[BearsFan1]

I'll find out next week if they gonna pay me or not. Will update here next week

I too have spoken with Jeff and have been advised all will be taken are of hopefully a lot sooner than initially expected. That said all the speculation in the world won't change the outcome, so I stated before it behooves us that have payouts pending or balance to wait and allow them the opportunity to keep their commitment. I personally if they are able to come through would have to appreciate the fact that through the turbulence integrity was upheld, although I would say nowhere near the manner we desire. I have a pretty good amount there myself and trust I have no problem confirming when they make right, nor problem advising if they didn't to be continued...
In my head in saying(pay me my money) in my Russian rounder voice!

[packattack]

I too have spoken with Jeff and have been advised all will be taken are of hopefully a lot sooner than initially expected. That said all the speculation in the world won't change the outcome, so I stated before it behooves us that have payouts pending or balance to wait and allow them the opportunity to keep their commitment. I personally if they are able to come through would have to appreciate the fact that through the turbulence integrity was upheld, although I would say nowhere near the manner we desire. I have a pretty good amount there myself and trust I have no problem confirming when they make right, nor problem advising if they didn't to be continued...
In my head in saying(pay me my money) in my Russian rounder voice!

I think that BetMayor is going to make good on their commitment to pay their players. I have faith in them, after all if they were planning on stiffing players they would of closed down and left by now. It sucks that they now have to battle back from a Bad SBR Rating . The first year playing with them they were one of the best books I have ever used. The dynamic live betting and free payouts were Great as well as customer service. If they can go back to this they can really be successful

[DwightShrute]

.... I never deposited with the book

you are one of the lucky ones.

Congrats. Now you don't have to wait several weeks to maybe get your money

[Optional]

I think that BetMayor is going to make good on their commitment to pay their players. I have faith in them, after all if they were planning on stiffing players they would of closed down and left by now. It sucks that they now have to battle back from a Bad SBR Rating . The first year playing with them they were one of the best books I have ever used. The dynamic live betting and free payouts were Great as well as customer service. If they can go back to this they can really be successful

I am not sure there is a way to battle back from a F rating without paying the player his 51k of blackjack winnings.

Not in this decade anyway.

[sourtwist]

I think that BetMayor is going to make good on their commitment to pay their players. I have faith in them, after all if they were planning on stiffing players they would of closed down and left by now. It sucks that they now have to battle back from a Bad SBR Rating . The first year playing with them they were one of the best books I have ever used. The dynamic live betting and free payouts were Great as well as customer service. If they can go back to this they can really be successful

Betislands was great in the beginning also

[dherd]

they are still taking bets and accepting deposits.

if they owe you money you can still wager with them.

they are betting those with account balances due will, say f\*\*k it, bet
the money back as lost money anyway with nothing to lose, AND LOSE
their balances back to bm. which will cut their liabilities.

so, the net effect is - deposits flowing in. creditors losing their balance back to them,
no cash flowing out.

at some point they will become liquid again.

they will pay off their chronic losers to keep them coming back, and slow pay or screw
anyone with a successful track record.

[DwightShrute]

they are still taking bets and accepting deposits.

if they owe you money you can still wager with them.

they are betting those with account balances due will, say f\*\*k it, bet
the money back as lost money anyway with nothing to lose, AND LOSE
their balances back to bm. which will cut their liabilities.

so, the net effect is - deposits flowing in. creditors losing their balance back to them,
no cash flowing out.

at some point they will become liquid again.

they will pay off their chronic losers to keep them coming back, and slow pay or screw
anyone with a successful track record.

what a great business. Win Win for them, lose lose for you.

[DwightShrute]

I think that BetMayor is going to make good on their commitment to pay their players. I have faith in them, after all if they were planning on stiffing players they would of closed down and left by now. It sucks that they now have to battle back from a Bad SBR Rating . The first year playing with them they were one of the best books I have ever used. The dynamic live betting and free payouts were Great as well as customer service. If they can go back to this they can really be successful

[dherd]

what a great business. Win win for them, lose lose for you.

a great business model isn't it. Money goes in - lies and excuses go out!

[Stockdale]

[BearsFan1]

Being awful quiet for the last few days, anything new popping up?

[captrobey]

Being awful quiet for the last few days, anything new popping up?

Only thing i got was a phone call from a girl at BM saying she has great news about my account. I did not bother calling back because i will not deposit there until i see the others on here have been paid. I am not counting the $51000 casino one though i would need to know more about that one .

[BearsFan1]

Only thing i got was a phone call from a girl at BM saying she has great news about my account. I did not bother calling back because i will not deposit there until i see the others on here have been paid. I am not counting the $51000 casino one though i would need to know more about that one .

I hear that. Dim is gonna keep us posted and I will as well as have a few payouts pending..

[DimSum]

Kennedy credited my account at CRSB with 10x rollover. if I still have money after the rollover, I'll let u guys know about the payout.

Betmayor offered me a weird payout method which is to do a clean chaarggebacck on my previous deposits. I don't like chrgebacck and probably won't do it. I don't expect a real payout from them anytime soon.

[DwightShrute]

weird payout?
do a clean chaarggebacck?
I don't expect a real payout?


this shit just writes itself.


Kennedy will sell you his first-born if that's what it takes for you to continue losing over there now.

[OUTCAST]

Kennedy credited my account at CRSB with 10x rollover. if I still have money after the rollover, I'll let u guys know about the payout.

Betmayor offered me a weird payout method which is to do a clean chaarggebacck on my previous deposits. I don't like chrgebacck and probably won't do it. I don't expect a real payout from them anytime soon.

DimSum, do you still have a balance at BetMayor? How does that work? If you have time and don't mind explaining it.

[DimSum]

Yea I still have balance there. Don't really have time to explain this mess but if u read the previous posts on this threat, u will find eveything.

[Legions36]

Sorry u guys are having problems but I do remember letting u guys know a while back what happened, that they called me from the same # as scambook Dimeline. After I posted it here they stopped with that phone # a month later calling me from a new one. Did u guys think I would make something like that up?