[jessetk313]

So Nadal is 11-0 career vs Wawa including a 5-0 record on the hardcourt. Couple this in with the fact that Nadal really wants to add this WTF championship to his resume and I am left thinking..hmm....do we pound Nadal tomorrow?

[matt1216]

I think Wawa can take this. He's out to show the big Boys he can stay...... That backhand seemed to be back for wawrinka last match. I know Nadal wants this tournament, but wanting and ability are two diffrent things. Federer wanted the French open, but it never happened

[MoneylineExpress]

I think Wawa can take this. He's out to show the big Boys he can stay...... That backhand seemed to be back for wawrinka last match. I know Nadal wants this tournament, but wanting and ability are two diffrent things. Federer wanted the French open, but it never happened

Federer won the French back in 2009 when Nadal was out.

[matt1216]

Federer won the French back in 2009 when Nadal was out.

Yes, but federer lost a lot to nadal at the French open. My point is, if this is nadals weakest surface, and he's trying hard. Then there's nothing else he can do. If he wanted to win this he woulda done so a couple years ago. I think WaWa has a good shot. Ferrer didn't look completely into this match today.

[jessetk313]

I understand your point Matt. I guess what I am saying is that Nadal has owned Wawa regardless of the surface. Even though Wawa is playing good tennis I think Nadal has flipped a switch and is playing good tennis as well.

[sluggy1616]

I'm with matt on this. Not sure if I bet the games or the over. I might do both with a half unit on the money line.

Does anyone know how the prize money for this event is paid? I think that will play a factor in how hard Birdy and Ferrer will play.

[losschaser]

Wawrinka has never even won a SET against Nadal in 11 meetings. He might take a set tomorrow but I just do not see him winning at all. The line should be over 10.0 here. All that being said I still bet $100 on Wawa for the entertainment factor

[easyliving]

any value taking Wava+4 games?

[Noleafclover]

Wawrinka has never even won a SET against Nadal in 11 meetings. He might take a set tomorrow but I just do not see him winning at all. The line should be over 10.0 here. All that being said I still bet $100 on Wawa for the entertainment factor

Says its a bad line, takes it any way.

[Stokes36]

any value taking Wava+4 games?

http://www.tennisinsight.com/matchid183143105.htm

Only once in the 11 meetings has Wawa covered 4 games. If anything, I'd go with Nadal -4.

[sluggy1616]

i took the over. no play on the money line. A bit of a sketchy bet by my standards. I think Nadal is getting tired and I like how Wawa took Joker to 5 at the us open many months ago

[matt1216]

Guys look at the lines.... -4 nadal and wawrinka has only covered it once??? Yet there still giving -4???? This should give u your answer right there. Wawrinka will cover

[MoneylineExpress]

Rafa owns players with the one handed backhand. The topspin is too much. Might be tight, but Nadal should be safe.

[poet]

Rafa owns players with the one handed backhand. The topspin is too much. Might be tight, but Nadal should be safe.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Gasquet, Fed, etc...

[frugalgambler]

Wawrinka took Nadal to 7-6(10) in the first set in China, a few weeks ago (going 0-4 on breakpoints). It is not like anybody will be expecting much from Wawrinka tomorrow and the crowd is probably going to support him. I am taking a stab at Wawa 1st set @+285. If he loses the first set, there is a pretty good chance he will fall apart in the 2nd set, like he did in China, so I do not really like Wawa +4.

[MoneylineExpress]

In those 11 matches lost, Wawrinka has only won 1 set

[Sarunas]

Guys look at the lines.... -4 nadal and wawrinka has only covered it once??? Yet there still giving -4???? This should give u your answer right there. Wawrinka will cover

please! make the read on the sentence yous make writing. then make correct

make increase on the moneys in futures

[Stokes36]

In those 11 matches lost, Wawrinka has only won 1 set

Wawrinka has won 0 sets actually. lol

[poet]

please! make the read on the sentence yous make writing. then make correct

make increase on the moneys in futures

Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

[Sarunas]

Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

nos! not is the question of the englishes

is question of the logicals



Guys look at the lines.... -4 nadal and wawrinka has only covered it once??? Yet there still giving -4???? This should give u your answer right there. Wawrinka will cover

[kenz]

Berdych wasted 5 bps on the game just because he is nowhere near his last year form and a terrible returner and his mobility is poor. Wawrinka broke 2 out of 4 break points

Mark my words Nadal will tactically return the same way as in the Ferrer game and all returns will bounce high with the surface. That really locked Ferrer's game. Ferrer does not like high bouncing balls, just like Wawrinka. Add to that Nadal's return abilities that Berdych does not have => we may see -hcp tonight

[Tboonepickem]

Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

[jjgold]

Stan looks over net and knows he can not beat Nadal

He will try but I think easy straight sets

[jessetk313]

I hope so jj.

[pattymayo]

A nadal win here ensures he ends the season as world number 1

Also, if Stan can beat Ferrer in next match Stan will likely advance to the semis anyway

I just don't see Nadal missing a beat here. Probably play he under

[Simon Gruber]

Let's go Stan. Got + 4 -105, and +450

[BennyBigNuts]

I need a good link anyone got one?
All these ones I'm clicking on are dog shit on p2p.

[Bbfromgpt]

I'm following on flashscore.com

[BennyBigNuts]

I'm following on flashscore.com

Found a decent one

http://www.sportlemon.tv/20131104/vv...58-678290.html

[Betn247]

watchespn.com

[jessetk313]

Nadal is gonna bury me. Serving for the set and he's broken. Come on!!

[Bbfromgpt]

I wanna take a shot on Wawrinka live but just can't do it. This shoulda been over when it was 5-3 Nadal

[MoneylineExpress]

Wow vintage Nadal. Stole those last two points when Wawrinka had the upperhand in the rallies.

[frugalgambler]

Wawrinka is just playing like a spazz on the big points. Nadal just has this effect on players like Ferrer or Wawa.

Wow, as I was typing this, Wawa somehow broke back in the 2nd set. I was sure he was going to waste two more breakpoints. +4 has a good chance of covering (or at least pushing).

[matt1216]

You boys are lucky Nadal is even winning.... Stan break points almost every nadal service game