79% of the public on Wainwright line opened Wainwright -142 it moved to -128
Blaton opened +131 now it is at +118 with only 21% of the public backing him
Looks like the angels are the play
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07-04-13 02:32 PM #1
Blanton +118
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07-04-13 02:38 PM #2
If it was only as easy as that.
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07-04-13 02:40 PM #3
Cards hammer right handers. Blanton has been good lately but he's still Blanton and this is the Cards were talking about here. Wainwright is a pure stud. Scores and odds has it 55% on Cards 45% Angels not as big as you'd think. Cards are the play here better pitcher and they crush righty's.
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07-04-13 03:07 PM #4
I like the cards as well but the line is screaming angels or stay away, too bad i took the cards like an idiot
I'm the worst capper in baseball here, bar none i'm absolutely getting my shit pushed in just like last year
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07-04-13 03:26 PM #5
They r moving the line to confuse u
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07-04-13 03:27 PM #6
I'm stayin on cards they just tryna drawthe public . Cards by two. +1.5 gonna get burnt I think
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07-04-13 03:27 PM #7
I parlayed big on mL cards and +1.5 angels
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07-04-13 03:45 PM #8
Giving yourself so many options in that parlay.... Can i book your bets?
Originally Posted by DeezusWINSTREAKT
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07-04-13 03:48 PM #9
Wainwo and cardinals bats against blanton amd angel bats.. dont overthink it. If you lose money on cardinal so be it.
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07-04-13 04:17 PM #10
Cards hit right handers well.
Blanton, at best, and this being kind, is a mediocre right hander at best.
Cards have the most balanced line up in the majors, and stat wise they have the third best offense in the majors.
I hate the way Matheny waits until the last second to post his lineup, he always does that for some reason, because I think he starts Cruz tonight behind the plate instead of Molina, but I have to wait another 2 hours.
Even with Cruz and his weak ass bat in the lineup, the top of the order still should torch Blanton.
Carpenter is an on base machine, Beltran kills fat Blanton, Holliday hits him too, but he's got a bad neck, so he's day to day.
Craig should hit Blanton too.
For the Angels to win tonight, Blanton has to be sharp while Wainwright being off at the same time.
Both offenses can rake, the big difference is Wainwright can lock down the Angel bats, I can't say the same for Blanton against the Card bats.
Key for Wainwright is to keep Trout off the bases, this way Pujols can't really hurt you,Angels haven't really faced Wainwright before, Pujols played first base behind him before going free agent, it's one thing to play behind him, another thing to face him.
Wainwright goes seven, turns it over to his lock down 'pen, if Wainwright does get into trouble late, Choate is a one out lefty specialist, and Rosenthal to Mujica is as good as it gets.
Don't let the line mind fuk the wager, you like the Cards (and I do in this spot) bet the Cards, I don't care much about the betting line going up and down like a yo-yo.
To the OP, if you like the Angels, then bet the Angels, don't let the line movement get you off the wager.
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS CAREER STATISTICS VS. JOE BLANTON BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS Matt Adams 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 Carlos Beltran 19 6 1 0 0 2 1 2 .316 .381 .368 .749 Matt Carpenter 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 Allen Craig 4 3 0 0 2 4 0 1 .750 .750 2.250 3.000 Daniel Descalso 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 David Freese 9 2 1 0 0 1 0 2 .222 .222 .333 .556 Rafael Furcal 7 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .143 .143 .143 .286 Matt Holliday 13 5 2 0 2 4 2 4 .385 .438 1.000 1.438 Jon Jay 6 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .500 .667 1.167 Yadier Molina 15 5 0 0 1 3 2 1 .333 .412 .533 .945 Ty Wigginton 6 3 0 0 0 1 1 2 .500 .571 .500 1.071 Totals 86 28 5 0 5 15 6 18 .326 .372 .558 .930 Points Awarded:
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07-04-13 04:47 PM #11
Nash I seriously doubt yadi isn't catching, I guess it conceivable he at dh but cards were just off Monday, think he already had a day over weekend, and cards off Monday again. U might be right but w cards needing a w to split the road trip I'd expect their best lineup.
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07-04-13 04:49 PM #12
It's sad that a bunch of loser trolls drove nasher off. Great post.
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07-04-13 04:56 PM #13
I took early games I liked and put $ on either side, cards ML and +1.5 angels. If cards win by 1 I win both sides and if I win one side , Im Still up.... no u can't book my bets I require payment in form of real currency not betpoints or units.... lol Originally Posted by gambler705
Either way I've already won somethn on that game. Redsox parlays and cubs +1.5 seems good so far, both seperate tied into ml and +1.5 respectively and already +money if one loses and huge win if game decides by 1 runLast edited by DeezusWINSTREAKT; 07-04-13 at 05:06 PM.
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07-04-13 05:02 PM #14
Ur good ole buddy will be back don't be so sad!!!! He will post a winner n deny trolls the fun!!! Originally Posted by No coincidences
Is this a great post because angels got blown out by almost ten runs yesterday? And because Miller outpitched them along w bullpen???? Nd because wainwright gonna destroy them ?
I'm calling it Angels 5-8 hits total 3-4 runs total.
I guess this is a great post because its a Low value +money bet, and the public is on cards therefore the angels will win.
This is how u bet? U jus go against public majority of time???? This isn't the NBA And even in the NBA favs win w public on em sometimes
Ppl are trippen if think this original posters thread is anything like Nashes . Nash writes up good stuff
Great post, THIS IS SO SHARP, cuz OMG PUBLIC 90%%% on CARDS!!!! SHAAAARRRPPPPPLast edited by DeezusWINSTREAKT; 07-04-13 at 05:20 PM.
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07-04-13 05:04 PM #15
NASH had real baseball stats and real baseball knowledge And more of an Angle then where the public is sitting.
Whether angels win or lose this post is complete garbage compared to Nashes post. And no I'm not being Nashes butt budy here I'm being Honest
Sbr comedy. such sharp analysis here
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07-04-13 05:07 PM #16
This is what sharp means on SBR??? Betting against public?? Noooo
Last edited by DeezusWINSTREAKT; 07-04-13 at 05:19 PM.
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07-04-13 05:12 PM #17
Sharp would have been DBacks yesterday to not lose 6th in a row and beat big public $$ harvey @ home...
Its sharp to think dbacks may not lose 6 in a row, and to go against this season cy young candidate
But its not "sharp" to just go against public
Would u agree??? or would u consider this sharp like nashes was? Nash had a great detailed write up and a smart one too, and compare it to this? Plz dont
Pretty sure no one used the word sharp and I don't mean to attack u but I hope u agree that this is nothing like nash post at all.
If anything nash had a sharp post, and this is trash compared to itLast edited by DeezusWINSTREAKT; 07-04-13 at 05:24 PM.
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07-04-13 05:15 PM #18
Well I may have gone off on nothing here so call me the fool but here comes Nash again with a great post I guess I overlooked it b4 going off on this sharp BS. Lmfao. Hope it atleast drew some kind of clarity on how I feel about ppl calling non public bets sharp
Ima edit my posts I had no reason to go off or single nocoin out for a question about how sharp this post was lolololol
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07-04-13 05:19 PM #19
This guy brings some real food to the table. Makes me feel better bout Cards. Thank you Nash real stuff Originally Posted by stevenash
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07-04-13 05:21 PM #20
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07-04-13 05:23 PM #21
I'm giving points to nash win or lose tonight on that post for some days here on out cuz I don't use em n hr deserve em haha. This what we need, smart ppl posting intelligent shit. Don't.mind my.nonsense about sharp this sharp that Im Sure u big guys know what it means ..... haha
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07-04-13 05:25 PM #22
Nash did u chase ur bet against that rediculous washington line or let it go???? Maybe next time Chase it? Nats were favored whole series n lost twice after gallardo right??? Worth a chase next time going against the grain maybe
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07-04-13 05:31 PM #23
like the lineup (if holliday has to play that is), descalso been big time and kosma not hitting so offense even deeper today.. Originally Posted by stevenash
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07-04-13 05:33 PM #24
i think cards will cover the rl tonight
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07-04-13 05:35 PM #25
I don't chase, never have, never will. Originally Posted by DeezusWINSTREAKT
I am a spot underdog player.
That is how I made my bank over the years.
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07-04-13 05:41 PM #26
For sure I like it. I chase in certain situations but often the line will go to either side. I'll chase + money, but won't chase -120 or higher
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07-04-13 05:45 PM #27
Me too, like I said in a post, I'm on cards ML and Angels 1.5 trying to middle. I got lopsided $ tied onto +1.5 so now I will hedge for a little on Cards -1.5 at + money. I trapped em for a small earnings, but I'm throwing all possible payout on Cards to win anyways. I'll break Even on that parlay if I lose on -1.5. Originally Posted by MonkeyMoney
All confusion aside, I think -1.5 has a more than solid chance of hitting against LA . Look at wainright Pitching and last nights score. This game says blowout city also. Blanton wag worse than williams
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07-04-13 06:08 PM #28
Past performances and stats are relevant to one's own record keeping, not to the outcome of the game in MLB. Many things can go wrong against your stats in any given game. I used to work in analytics field - SAP BI, databases - and love numbers. My edge is clearly coming from studying the win-loss columns of the teams that play each other. And I won't elaborate further on my edge. For example, I clearly knew NY Yankees and Chicago WSox would win today, though everyone knew how bad White Sox was. Anyways, What I'm trying to say here is that past numbers would give some idea, nothing else, especially in MLB. Originally Posted by stevenash
As for the Angel pick, I think they would win tonight, though I have no money on either team.
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07-04-13 06:28 PM #29
Going from wins losses? So if Angels won 6 in a row, lost 1, now they gonna win cuz of how wins and losses come in? It
Its baseball. Back n forth winning/ losing happens more than streaks. So as long as u don't run into a W or L streak you may be okay with that. Guessing is good, u can bet on win loss momentum And do well....
Why do you "think" angels will win tonight? A win/loss column guess??
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07-04-13 06:28 PM #30
I know what u talking about. A team being "due" ....
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07-04-13 06:31 PM #31
But if your using your method towards this angels cards game I think this is unique. Time and time again, a small loss streak for teams that have a big win streak is also "due"
U won that whitesox by a walk off homer.... donno how u knew that would happen But great job. guess u knew they were due for a walkoff hr??
Or do u mean you got lucky????
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07-04-13 06:35 PM #32
i personally think blanton is better than williams and more to the point williams was tailored made for cards with his over 70% throwing fastball ass...they are both similar in they have both padded their numbers vs some weak hitting lineups and while i do think cards will hit blanton it wont be anything like the bp they got vs williams last night.. think cards put up 4/5 runs tonight which ill always take my chances with waino with that kind of support.. Originally Posted by DeezusWINSTREAKT
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07-04-13 06:39 PM #33
Thx bank I trust u on that .cuz I hear everybody calling Blanton a gas can and never Heard williams mentioned. Williams has been good, under 4 e.r.a. almost every time he started and put up a good start 95% of the time. Blanton is still fat and its 100 degrees in cali I'm sittin in it..
Wainwright has the edge here, and I think Blanton will be possibly nervous and most definitely a bit tired in the heat from today. Should be a hot night down there in so cal maybe 80s... u think his fitness will play into his pitching at all today???
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07-04-13 06:45 PM #34
i dunno bout that, he been fat forever so id assume he used to it by now, lol.. blantons peripherals are actually pretty solid and unlike williams he actually mixes in a fair amount of off speed/breaking stuff so that in itself will be more of a challenge for stl... honestly unlike yesterday when my cards tt over was all about knowing they would tune williams up my play on stl tonight has very little to do with blanton and everything to do with i always bet on waino when i get him at a reasonably cheap price, you bet waino every time you get him -140ish or less you end up a fair amount at the end of the year.. Originally Posted by DeezusWINSTREAKT
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07-04-13 07:39 PM #35
I beg to differ. Originally Posted by bhoor
I have had this debate thousands of times.
Hitter v. Batter past performances are very real and valid stat when handicapping.
It's an indication of what a batter does against a pitcher. If a group of hitter collectively are, say, 23 for 57 lifetime against a certain hitter, it more than likely means that lineup owns that pitcher and will continue to do so.
If a certain hitter is 11 for 25 with 8 walks, it means that pitcher won't come into that batter, or has trouble pitching to him.
After I first handicap the starters, I break down the available bullpens, then I go to past history of batter v. hitter.
To ignore that stat, is ignorant handicapping.
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