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I don't remember the exact details but I wanted to make a bet at the Imperial Palace. I was the only one at the window and tried to make a bet. The clerk said one second and went in the back to get the manager. The manager told me that he would give me so much money at one price and then more at another price.Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker
If they were going to leave the line at -120, I think it's legal. I don't know for certain though. I'll find out tomorrow.
Yeah, it works like this I believe...
line is at team A +100. I want to bet $10,000. Book manager says no, we'll take $x on that. Then usually they move the line and allow you to bet more if you want. It usually is the same limit at both prices.
This happens with futures a bit, especially off prices. They'll take a couple hundred maybe on a long shot (200-1, 100-1) and then move the price (usually a ridiculous move that no one would ever bet). It's fukked but it is what it is.
Ages ago and I'm sketchy on the details and amounts but a guy was killing bases at the Barbary Coast. He would go there and try to bet $60k on a baseball game at -150. Manager would come out and say I'll give you $20k at -150, $20k at -160 and $20k at -170. I forget details but I do know he got 3 different prices.
Barbary Coast was the place to play MLB back in the day, might have been first book to offer reduced juice with 5 Cent lines on sides.
It depends on the establishment, who is working behind the counter, who the bettor is and so on and so on..............but some of what you have stated in this thread that you think occurs in Vegas does indeed happen in Vegas(rather ethical and/or within nevada gaming regulations or not), how frequently it happens would be a guess..............lots of places.
I believe that would be correct.
At the time I worked as a supervisor at the old Sands, believe we were the first place to offer -108 on football in the city.
This is precisely what I meant when I said much depends on the establishment..........barbary was known to cut limits, whereas most joints would stick to their regular limits posted at all times.
Every place that I worked at was given the option to allow the player to wager up to 50% more than the posted limit..........so say we had a limit of 10,000 on a game, the player could definetly get down 10k and if he wanted more, it was than the decision for us to give the player anywhere from 100-5,000 more
Fish, if you're a known sharp face, how easy is it to then use runners and spread 20K across 20 books? If those 20 went to a different book each time it would be virtually impossible to detect wouldn't it as long as everyone said nothing?
Yes, but we are talking lots of different scenarios here and discussing such things is difficult, especially for a writing challenged person like myself.
Remember, lots of books(one shop) have numerous venues(will hill, stations, cantor, mgm, etc., etc) and that is but one aspect to consider with your above theory.
Welcome bak fish head
All the dumpsters been raided
Raiders, I most definitely place MonkeyFocker in the IDIOT column and he is one of the most nasty, bitter individuals living on planet Earth.
MonkeyFocker and EmilyHaines have very similar personalities though Monkey is by far the more intelligent of the 2.
If I recall correctly, both of those clowns play a ton of poker and I am starting to notice a pattern of full time poker players being extremely bitter people.
From the guy who said this...
FYI, the probability of going 44-1 with a 60% win expectation would be 0.0000000103945629881252% (1 in 9,620,414,068). At 50% expectation, the probability is 0.0000000000028421709430% (1 in 35,184,372,088,832).
Happy to clear that up for you, GENIUS. Or do you still need clarification? LMAO.
Have fun slumming in the promo forum, Richie Rich.
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andywend...quite a big difference in a guy who plays live poker in vegas half the day (or used to) and a guy who makes posts crying about sbrpoker being rigged.
Couldn't agree more and he brings that bitterness with him wherever he goes. He's the type of guy that walks into a room and sucks the air right out of it.
I saw a photo of Monkey recently. Quite a good looking lad.
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Good stuff Fishhead. Be fun to hear more Vegas stories. How does it feel to be back there?
Ooooh Cantor... hired a bunch of math whizzes... will take $1million on anything...oooooh scary scary
They're a pathetic and scared book like the rest
Guys I'm about to release the coveted Cantor algorithm that is a closely held secret, stashed in the M vault surrounded by 24/7 armed personnel. If I disappear mysteriously after this post you know what happened.
Drumroll please....
If bettor is unknown to the book:
Cantor line = Pinnacle line + 5 cents juice
Cantor limits = (Pinnacle limits)/10
If bettor gets punched in the head for a living
Cantor line = Pinnacle line + 20 cents juice on the square side
Cantor limits = $5 million
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Feels great.....hope never to make the mistake of leaving for more than 6 months ever again.
Mathy, you will get a good dose of Cantor 12 days from now.
mathy if all they do is add juice on whatever the pinny side is, how do you expect or want to beat them? assuming theyl label u as a sharp?
why dont u just bet at pinnacle with less juice?
I believe what you say. Where can I follow the Cantor lines? I don't see Cantor or M on SO.
On teasers? Yes. But who isn't? They'll book $55k on an NFL side or total to anyone sharp or square without batting an eyelash.
Like you were saying, it is pretty rare to find off market numbers at Cantor. It's a great out for an originator. +EV teasers are low hanging fruit that will get you flagged pretty quickly nearly everywhere these days though. That's a big reason why I don't play them with regularity.
Cantor's lines are off-screen.
This
Give me deep enough pockets and I wouldn't bat an eye-lash at a 55k bet laid at a number no better than Pinnacle's either.
So what's so impressive? It only looks impressive compared to the pussy books who are just trying to charge squares more and shuddering at any sharp dropping 2k on the other side (Stations, Bodog, SIA, any Euro book).
I'd be impressed if Cantor lines actually had a significant opinion in them.
The real question is "Suppose Pinn/CRIS/Greek/5Dimes disappeared tomorrow -- does M still take a 55k NFL bet?" I doubt it. Since they're off screen, I don't know the answer, but I suspect they move off air with Pinnacle which as we all know any 5 year old could do.
If they're so sharp why are they even offering any low hanging fruit? The Vegas convention of -110 a side is quickly disappearing anyways.
I wouldn't call them impressive. The reason they get so much publicity is because they aren't what so many other books have become lately (like the ones that you named).
I don't believe the M would change if Pinny et al. disappeared tomorrow. They're the type of company that would seize the opportunity. Do they move off of air? Certainly. Do they clone Pinny on every market and every move? No. Of course, I'd love it if they took $55k bets and dealt mostly opinionated lines in major markets. How sharp would that be though? The market moves the number. It's a bit difficult for a book with geographic restrictions to have more efficient action than a(n almost) worldwide book like Pinny. Much of the big money in American markets on Pinnacle are betting Cantor lines simultaneously anyway (at least prior to the bust) because they take the size they do.I'd be impressed if Cantor lines actually had a significant opinion in them.
The real question is "Suppose Pinn/CRIS/Greek/5Dimes disappeared tomorrow -- does M still take a 55k NFL bet?" I doubt it. Since they're off screen, I don't know the answer, but I suspect they move off air with Pinnacle which as we all know any 5 year old could do.
They offer it to bring in action I would assume.If they're so sharp why are they even offering any low hanging fruit? The Vegas convention of -110 a side is quickly disappearing anyways.
mathy, u said u wanted to play cantors off numbers?
how do they have off numbers when all they do is juice pinny's numbers?
Read Monkey's post a few posts back..............................
Fishhead or someone "in the know" , what would say is the going rate for a runner in LV for someone wanting to get down 5-10 dimes per game ?
What sport(s)?
Usually in the $800-$1k/week range.
Might change if they have to run to various casinos.
I vote GOP in every election..but it has nothing to do with my sports betting hobby..there are plenty of reasons i vote GOP but dont want to turn this in to a political thread.
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