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    If you don't want to tip then you should make your own food, cut your own hair, wash your own car, etc etc etc.

    Penny Pinching bastard.
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    I only tip for sex

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Ok I recently went back into the the service industry because I was terminated from my previous job which paid a set wage. I am a bellman at a nice 4 star hotel in NC. I bust my fukking ass for tips which in this hotel can be really good on a good night(over 100-150$) and shitty on a slow night (under 50).I make just a smidgen over minimum wage. I earn every goddam penny I make in tips and yes sometimes folks are really generous(another bellman got a 300$ tip last week) and sometimes I get stiffed for pulling up cars or carting 7 huge pieces of luggage to a room for 3 dollars. All in all its a good job and after having to take this job to provide for my family after filling out 50 applications in 3 months with 3 interviews I am grateful for this job. Its expected to tip for the services I provide. Not given if you feel like it. You pull a bellcart with 300 pounds of luggage around and not get pissed when some fukker driving a red Jag tips you 4 bucks when he is making 200k a year. Shut the fukk up.Would I prefer a wage of say 17-20 hr..maybe.But that would make the job boring and encourage the mediocre service and no chance of making that big gratuity.
    Hey beefcake, let me ask you something. Are guests allowed to take up their own luggage on a cart? I'm guessing they are allowed to park their own vehicle but it's possible that isn't an option either.

    Here is my point. It's great that you bust ur ass and want to provide for your family, but to many people ur a pain in the ass. I am not saying u personally, but your job position is. Many people also detect the attitude you've outlined in this post of an overall resentment towards your Jaguar driving clientele, that is unless they do what you want them to. They didn't get to where they can afford a Jaguar by giving away their money to whoever wants it.

    I'll give you an example. Not too long ago I was checking in at a hotel and there were some luggage carts lined up outside. I am perfectly able to unload my own bags, put them on a cart, and take them up to my room. So I finish checking in, go outside and wheel over a cart and load up the luggage to head up to the room while my girlfriend parks. There was no bellman around, but I'm almost to the elevator when some bell girl chases me down.

    "Sir, excuse me sir. You aren't allowed to take those carts." I say "Huh?" She says something to the affect, "These carts aren't for guests to use, only we can use them." In retrospect I should have just told her to go back outside and play with her stupid little hat, but I was tired from the ride and just wanted to get up to the room. I know what she wanted, for me to let her take the reigns and go up the rest of the way so she could then hold out her hand for some money. Penetrate that. I took my luggage off the cart and said, "Fine take it back then!"

    Sure, I don't want to just give people money for no reason, but it's more that I find it inconvenient to stand there and wait for a bell hop to unload my luggage (carefully hopefully), put it on the cart so that nothing is on top of something it shouldn't be, ask me my room number, ask me if I need something else, give me a ticket to hold on to, go up to my room and be stuck there for 15 minutes until the luggage gets there, hope the bags are being taken care of and the guy/girl doesn't steal, spit, mishandle anything because I'm driving a Jaguar, let them in, tell them where to put the bags, and then give them money for something I happily, quickly, and more efficiently can do myself.

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    People are getting so fat and lazy in this country because they can't carry two bags from the car to the elevator without a cart or a bell man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    People are getting so fat and lazy in this country because they can't carry two bags from the car to the elevator without a cart or a bell man.
    2 bags?

    You obviously have never traveled with a woman!

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    Its a question of european vs. american mentality in the end...

    We in europe think that everybody deserves to live a decent life: in the end we have less poverty, smaller gap between rich and poor, freedom to chose between more than two parties and a fair chance of everybody to achieve something with free education and free healthcare

    In the US you believe that everything has to be earned, although if you are born reach people already earned it for you and if you are born poor normaly you are ******. You have a bad and extremly expesive medical system, a culture dominated by lobbying and 2 parties, huge amount of homeless and a lot of people living in extreme debt. On the other side you have a lot of rich people too and lets not forget the 2nd amendment...that ranks as the develop country with the biggest murders and crime rate
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    If you don't want to tip then you should make your own food, cut your own hair, wash your own car, etc etc etc.

    Penny Pinching bastard.
    So you tip the mailman and McDonalds employees too, I assume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burkina2008 View Post
    Its a question of european vs. american mentality in the end...

    We in europe think that everybody deserves to live a decent life: in the end we have less poverty, smaller gap between rich and poor, freedom to chose between more than two parties and a fair chance of everybody to achieve something with free education and free healthcare

    In the US you believe that everything has to be earned, although if you are born reach people already earned it for you and if you are born poor normaly you are ******. You have a bad and extremly expesive medical system, a culture dominated by lobbying and 2 parties, huge amount of homeless and a lot of people living in extreme debt. On the other side you have a lot of rich people too and lets not forget the 2nd amendment...that ranks as the develop country with the biggest murders and crime rate
    One important difference that you don't seem to be acknowledging as far as culture and standard of living is that Denmark is only about 5.5 million people 99% of which are white.

    Comparing that to the USA is like comparing little Tommy's Pop Warner (little league) qb stats in the suburbs to Blaine Gabbert's

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    One important difference that you don't seem to be acknowledging as far as culture and standard of living is that Denmark is only about 5.5 million people 99% of which are white.

    Comparing that to the USA is like comparing little Tommy's Pop Warner (little league) qb stats in the suburbs to Blaine Gabbert's
    Stats of Denmark are better than the average of the EU, but putting the EU all together, everything holds true and we are talking about 27 countries that have together more population than the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account View Post
    Got a tip for ya right here!

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    Hey beefcake, let me ask you something. Are guests allowed to take up their own luggage on a cart? I'm guessing they are allowed to park their own vehicle but it's possible that isn't an option either.

    Here is my point. It's great that you bust ur ass and want to provide for your family, but to many people ur a pain in the ass. I am not saying u personally, but your job position is. Many people also detect the attitude you've outlined in this post of an overall resentment towards your Jaguar driving clientele, that is unless they do what you want them to. They didn't get to where they can afford a Jaguar by giving away their money to whoever wants it.

    I'll give you an example. Not too long ago I was checking in at a hotel and there were some luggage carts lined up outside. I am perfectly able to unload my own bags, put them on a cart, and take them up to my room. So I finish checking in, go outside and wheel over a cart and load up the luggage to head up to the room while my girlfriend parks. There was no bellman around, but I'm almost to the elevator when some bell girl chases me down.

    "Sir, excuse me sir. You aren't allowed to take those carts." I say "Huh?" She says something to the affect, "These carts aren't for guests to use, only we can use them." In retrospect I should have just told her to go back outside and play with her stupid little hat, but I was tired from the ride and just wanted to get up to the room. I know what she wanted, for me to let her take the reigns and go up the rest of the way so she could then hold out her hand for some money. Penetrate that. I took my luggage off the cart and said, "Fine take it back then!"

    Sure, I don't want to just give people money for no reason, but it's more that I find it inconvenient to stand there and wait for a bell hop to unload my luggage (carefully hopefully), put it on the cart so that nothing is on top of something it shouldn't be, ask me my room number, ask me if I need something else, give me a ticket to hold on to, go up to my room and be stuck there for 15 minutes until the luggage gets there, hope the bags are being taken care of and the guy/girl doesn't steal, spit, mishandle anything because I'm driving a Jaguar, let them in, tell them where to put the bags, and then give them money for something I happily, quickly, and more efficiently can do myself.
    Well we push "Aggressive Hospitality" at my hotel..Guests are allowed to take the carts upstairs only after we have asked them a few times and then try to persuade them that it is our job to provide free of charge...if they really insist there is nothing we can do. We are not a chain and have our own rules, which is bad and good I guess. Most people who stay with us expect help anyway and come back numerous times a year. The hotel is more like a family with many employees having been there 10+ years or more. I understand what you mean about doing the work yourself and I dont blame you at all. But we always are trying to be there ASAP for the guest and 99% of the time we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post
    One important difference that you don't seem to be acknowledging as far as culture and standard of living is that Denmark is only about 5.5 million people 99% of which are white.

    Comparing that to the USA is like comparing little Tommy's Pop Warner (little league) qb stats in the suburbs to Blaine Gabbert's
    Thankfully we have a much larger economy than Denmark.

    you morons will come up with any stupid excuse to not tax the super rich and make the life of the majority more comfortable.

    Germany completely discredits everything the right wing says about unions, tariffs, welfare states, high taxes on super rich.

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    14 years in the restaurant industry. I'll try and squash this once and for all.

    What other countries do -- Doesn't matter. Service away from the US is effing horrible. Foreigners had a rude habit of flagging me down when they wanted something. Americans rarely did. Why? Because you HAVE to flag servers down in most countries, or they won't even come by. Europeans especially complain about how Americans don't adhere to their customs, but they are just as bad in a number of different ways, not just tipping. On British Airways for example, they even say over the loudspeaker how tipping 15-20% is customary here, but almost none of them pretend to hear it. They like to act comfortably ignorant to the fact that it's a different system here. Yet when you put automatic gratuities on a check, none of them say anything and they smile and pay it. On top of this, many foreigners are excessively needy (India, China, Mexico, the whole middle east, Russia are all the worst) and need every stupid little thing you can think of, and have no etiquette or consideration about it. If we all had to live in the wild someday, all of these people would be eaten within the first 3 hours.

    In the end, none of this matters. I choose to stay in fine dining. Why? Because in all my time there, I never met ONE American male or female that was just downright anti-tipping, and I've met tens of thousands of people doing this. And people like the OP and the handful of others that are like him are almost always priced-out of the places I've worked. People that justify being cheap in this way also can't wrap their heads around paying more for a better product and higher-end experience because they are mentally unable to see it that way. Go ahead -- complain away. Chances are you're out there making some other server/bartender's poor life miserable in a casual dining joint, not mine. Does not apply.

    It's no secret why Tarantino gave the anti-tipping ideal to the most fukked-out goofiest character in the entire movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burkina2008 View Post
    Its a question of european vs. american mentality in the end...

    We in europe think that everybody deserves to live a decent life: in the end we have less poverty, smaller gap between rich and poor, freedom to chose between more than two parties and a fair chance of everybody to achieve something with free education and free healthcare

    In the US you believe that everything has to be earned, although if you are born reach people already earned it for you and if you are born poor normaly you are ******. You have a bad and extremly expesive medical system, a culture dominated by lobbying and 2 parties, huge amount of homeless and a lot of people living in extreme debt. On the other side you have a lot of rich people too and lets not forget the 2nd amendment...that ranks as the develop country with the biggest murders and crime rate
    Burka dirka muhammad jihad, you have different values, yes, but they all come with tradeoffs, as is the history of life and universal state of man. With less poverty, you trade mobility for those who really desire and cultivate the most out of their gifts. Outstanding individuals is the tradeoff for this smaller gap (in general, though, only --- it is false that you don't have historical legacies that are tremendously wealthy on the same level and under the same criticism as you dish out here). Freedom to choose more is incorrect, not even close with the gov't regulation you have save for random stuff like drugs in pockets of Europe. That segues to political choice which is true, there is a bit more in Europe but it's under the guise of choice given the already granted socialistic style governments that are entrenched.

    Our medical system is expensive, but it is worlds above Europe in point of care intervention and cancer treatment. Not even close, bro. That's why none of it passes the sniff test. If you had a problem, would you go anywhere else in the world compared to the US? The culture here of many different people and political bickering with freedom to be a fatass and food on every corner is a problem, but we don't feel the need to governmentally control someone's eating; see? another tradeoff.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie Halves View Post
    14 years in the restaurant industry. I'll try and squash this once and for all.

    What other countries do -- Doesn't matter. Service away from the US is effing horrible. Foreigners had a rude habit of flagging me down when they wanted something. Americans rarely did. Why? Because you HAVE to flag servers down in most countries, or they won't even come by. Europeans especially complain about how Americans don't adhere to their customs, but they are just as bad in a number of different ways, not just tipping. On British Airways for example, they even say over the loudspeaker how tipping 15-20% is customary here, but almost none of them pretend to hear it. They like to act comfortably ignorant to the fact that it's a different system here. Yet when you put automatic gratuities on a check, none of them say anything and they smile and pay it. On top of this, many foreigners are excessively needy (India, China, Mexico, the whole middle east, Russia are all the worst) and need every stupid little thing you can think of, and have no etiquette or consideration about it. If we all had to live in the wild someday, all of these people would be eaten within the first 3 hours.

    In the end, none of this matters. I choose to stay in fine dining. Why? Because in all my time there, I never met ONE American male or female that was just downright anti-tipping, and I've met tens of thousands of people doing this. And people like the OP and the handful of others that are like him are almost always priced-out of the places I've worked. People that justify being cheap in this way also can't wrap their heads around paying more for a better product and higher-end experience because they are mentally unable to see it that way. Go ahead -- complain away. Chances are you're out there making some other server/bartender's poor life miserable in a casual dining joint, not mine. Does not apply.

    It's no secret why Tarantino gave the anti-tipping ideal to the most fukked-out goofiest character in the entire movie.
    Ralphie, great job laying down the law. I love it when outsiders criticize the US but without the big picture or the honesty to say that they and theirs aren't among the most disorderly around.

    Burkina, your gov't leaders are and have been letting the [non European] foreigners in, just like ours. You're catching up and the problem is, most of your economies are in a much worse shape than ours. Sorry to break the news, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Burka dirka muhammad jihad, you have different values, yes, but they all come with tradeoffs, as is the history of life and universal state of man. With less poverty, you trade mobility for those who really desire and cultivate the most out of their gifts. Outstanding individuals is the tradeoff for this smaller gap (in general, though, only --- it is false that you don't have historical legacies that are tremendously wealthy on the same level and under the same criticism as you dish out here). Freedom to choose more is incorrect, not even close with the gov't regulation you have save for random stuff like drugs in pockets of Europe. That segues to political choice which is true, there is a bit more in Europe but it's under the guise of choice given the already granted socialistic style governments that are entrenched.

    Our medical system is expensive, but it is worlds above Europe in point of care intervention and cancer treatment. Not even close, bro. That's why none of it passes the sniff test. If you had a problem, would you go anywhere else in the world compared to the US? The culture here of many different people and political bickering with freedom to be a fatass and food on every corner is a problem, but we don't feel the need to governmentally control someone's eating; see? another tradeoff.

    What a pathetic text...dude I dont tip and when 99% of the world is doing it one way and the other 1% is doing in another, its not normal that the 99% is wrong.
    You have more choice in the US? Dude you have 2 parties where u can vote, u have the strictest control on everything, your government controls ************, telephones, u r under survaillance by cameras all the time, you have legal lobbyism...

    Better medical system...haha u r so dumb it hurts. I already put it there somewhere but check it out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_H...ystems_in_2000). US is number 38...bellow countries like Morocco or Oman. You are the best in POC and Cancer...I dont know, but its possible. It only means you are crap in everything else.
    An you know what. I get cancer in Denmark and I dont have to pay a single cent for treatment and if its something really specif they send me to the UK or Swizerland to get the better treatment for free...But no! USA is the best! You sperak of stuff you dont even have a clue about. Have you actually ever left the US


    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Ralphie, great job laying down the law. I love it when outsiders criticize the US but without the big picture or the honesty to say that they and theirs aren't among the most disorderly around.
    Yes I love when the waiter comes from 5 to 5 minutes and asks if everything is ok, interrupting my conversation. "Idiot, if something was not ok, than I would have told you already! Sorry no tip!"
    Btw I already saw some restaurants in NY are adopting the policy of refusing tips...oh wait, but the true US is in some shithole in Montana right?

    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Burkina, your gov't leaders are and have been letting the [non European] foreigners in, just like ours. You're catching up and the problem is, most of your economies are in a much worse shape than ours. Sorry to break the news, man.
    Dude we have much more foreigners (non-EU) than you in the states (just check already other links I put above. The difference is that integration in Europe is a bit successful while in the US doesnt even exist. And immigrants are not the problem anyway


    Congrats u r completly delusional

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    It's funny that you don't know what you are talking about, nor to whom you are talking, but hey I could just be lying and making this all up. You would be very surprised about where I"ve been and what I've accomplished, apart from handicapping here, my man. But I don't blame you, you're just playing the odds --- just happens you are wrong in this case.

    I never said US is the best but your ignorance of the realities of healthcare is best proved through your absolutely, insane and maniacal suggestion that Morocco and Oman have better health care than the US. That could go down as the biggest brain fart and biased statement you just emotionally want confirmed. I'm sure you'd go to Morocco before the US for health care

    Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    It's funny that you don't know what you are talking about, nor to whom you are talking, but hey I could just be lying and making this all up. You would be very surprised about where I"ve been and what I've accomplished, apart from handicapping here, my man. But I don't blame you, you're just playing the odds --- just happens you are wrong in this case.

    I never said US is the best but your ignorance of the realities of healthcare is best proved through your absolutely, insane and maniacal suggestion that Morocco and Oman have better health care than the US. That could go down as the biggest brain fart and biased statement you just emotionally want confirmed. I'm sure you'd go to Morocco before the US for health care

    Please.
    Better medical system...haha u r so dumb it hurts. I already put it there somewhere but check it out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_H...ystems_in_2000). US is number 38...bellow countries like Morocco or Oman.

    Of course I should belive you instead of the WHO (World Health Organization) from the UN...your pathetic seriously!

    And comparing knowledge of sports handicapping with knowleadge of Healthcare systems? Are you here to make us laugh, like a clown?


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    Ya know Burker.........

    Those with the most pride, are for sure, the most ignorant..........

    So you better not dare comment on Amerikan values,Lol.......

    So

    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

    Some men you just can't reach...

    So, you get what we had here last week,

    Which is the way he wants it !

    Well, he gets it !

    N' I don't like it any more than you do............

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    Burkina, I've been in medicine longer than you ever went to school, brother

    I don't have pride, I live in reality. My medical training was well beyond anything anyone else in the world went through, save for a small % of really great docs outside the US, which there are, but their skills were honed on the job after their training.

    I've been all over Europe and yes, even to Cuba. You are just spewing talking points. I'm telling you that I know they aren't true. But go ahead and go to your Moroccan doctor instead of me, my man


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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    Burkina, I've been in medicine longer than you ever went to school, brother

    I don't have pride, I live in reality. My medical training was well beyond anything anyone else in the world went through, save for a small % of really great docs outside the US, which there are, but their skills were honed on the job after their training.

    I've been all over Europe and yes, even to Cuba. You are just spewing talking points. I'm telling you that I know they aren't true. But go ahead and go to your Moroccan doctor instead of me, my man

    You must have missed "logic" in your philosophy class right?
    Just because you have some of the best doctors in the world does not mean that you have the best medical system, because your average Joe does not have access to the best doctors and because your average as statistics suggested (OFFICIAL STATISTICS FROM THE U.N., not your perception of reality) are worse than in the majority of the developed world.

    By YOUR logic, if some guy in Burundi becomes somehow the best doctor in the world, than Burundi has the best medical system in the world...

    And who are you to tell me that youve been more years practicing medicine than me in school, you dont know me fool, so shut the penetrate up, because you already proved that you cant even understand logic, so if one of the best doctors of the US cant understand logic, I am sure gonna go to somewhere else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burkina2008 View Post
    This is beyond ridiculous, the tipping scheme here in the US. Yes I am here performing an audit, but come on Ive lived all around the world and its ridiculous how prices are here: x + tax + tip!!! Anywhere in the world the price you pay is the price in the menu, tipps are for rounding the bill nothing else. 58,30 euro family meal, give 60 euros, thats a 3% tip and nobody will complain if you ask for the change. And you know what? Waiters and taxi drivers live much better in europe than in the US. So the problem is the Industry not the people that you say are cheap for not tipping.
    Instead of complaining about bad tipsters, complain about ur only profit driven government that does not create laws for the employeer to provide you with a decent salary!
    Also I am reading now that you are expected to tip for cleaning my room at the hotel every day? I am here working, my company pays 250$ a night to the hotel and I am suppose to give 5$ from my own money for a service that is included in the hotel price? You gotta be kidding me, its a really fckd up society the US
    So do us all a favor you cheap fuk dont love in the USA gtfo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burkina2008 View Post
    This is beyond ridiculous, the tipping scheme here in the US. Yes I am here performing an audit, but come on Ive lived all around the world and its ridiculous how prices are here: x + tax + tip!!! Anywhere in the world the price you pay is the price in the menu, tipps are for rounding the bill nothing else. 58,30 euro family meal, give 60 euros, thats a 3% tip and nobody will complain if you ask for the change. And you know what? Waiters and taxi drivers live much better in europe than in the US. So the problem is the Industry not the people that you say are cheap for not tipping.
    Instead of complaining about bad tipsters, complain about ur only profit driven government that does not create laws for the employeer to provide you with a decent salary!
    Also I am reading now that you are expected to tip for cleaning my room at the hotel every day? I am here working, my company pays 250$ a night to the hotel and I am suppose to give 5$ from my own money for a service that is included in the hotel price? You gotta be kidding me, its a really fckd up society the US
    I always tip 20% unless the service was beyond horrible or the server flat out pisses me off. I have only done this twice though. A lot of waiters and waitresses do not make a lot and depend on tips to make a living. What i do not like is when they want extra cash for doing something stupid .
    We just came back a couple weeks back from Mexico. That place is a tipping nightmare they want money for everything. One guy wanted me to tip his daughter for wrapping stuff we brought from them. I gave her a Dollar but still .
    But hotel room, Taxis (Even though it was not required in Puerto Vallarata ) , Waiters ,Waitresses, Tour guides , i always tip something to as long as i was taken care of properly.

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    Store bought medical credentials are just that...

    Doctors are trained in today's day and age by, you guessed it, profit driven Insurance corporations..

    Doctors work for and answer to insurance companies, any way you slice it,period..

    Doctors today "specialize" in one area for a reason, which is to keep them completely clueless in all other areas of medical wisdom.

    They are nothing more than one area technicians employed by Insurance corporations..

    You see when you are limited from a broad medical educational view you will be limited to simple diagnosis..

    Keep the patient sick by treating just the symptoms is a win win by all involved except the patient/consumer.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Store bought medical credentials are just that...

    Doctors are trained in today's day and age by, you guessed it, profit driven Insurance corporations..

    Doctors work for and answer to insurance companies, any way you slice it,period..

    Doctors today "specialize" in one area for a reason, which is to keep them completely clueless in all other areas of medical wisdom.

    They are nothing more than one area technicians employed by Insurance corporations..

    You see when you are limited from a broad medical educational view you will be limited to simple diagnosis..

    Keep the patient sick by treating just the symptoms is a win win by all involved except the patient/consumer.......
    Most of my Clients are on Medicare although i do dabble in the Exchanges (Obamacare) and signed a few people up. I like putting my clients on true Med Supps so they never have to worry about the crap that goes on. Medicare also will only allow the doctors to charge a certain amount so they do not overcharge and take advantage of their patients.
    But then you have the excess charge they can do if you are not their patient and out of State. Most States have this and allows Doctors to charge 15% over the amount and they can pocket the cash. Hmo's and most Med Supps do not cover this. Well 2 Med Supps out of 10 do if you know what to look for. So unless you live in Pa make sure you have something decent .
    If someone is on Medicare though the Doctor does not have to fear the Insurance Company as much as having to fear Medicare. If you are under 65 yes most people do not have Medicare unless they have been Disabled for 2 years. But if one of my Clients gets screwed by a doctor i do not go to the insurance Company first- i counter with filing a complaint with Medicare because they can do way more damage to the doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Store bought medical credentials are just that...

    Doctors are trained in today's day and age by, you guessed it, profit driven Insurance corporations..

    Doctors work for and answer to insurance companies, any way you slice it,period..

    Doctors today "specialize" in one area for a reason, which is to keep them completely clueless in all other areas of medical wisdom.

    They are nothing more than one area technicians employed by Insurance corporations..

    You see when you are limited from a broad medical educational view you will be limited to simple diagnosis..

    Keep the patient sick by treating just the symptoms is a win win by all involved except the patient/consumer.......

    You know little to nothing in this case, you're talking to a diagnostic imaging specialist, I'm not limited

    Keep the patient sick is a bunch of bogus conspiracy crap, health care is a win-win because people don't take care of themselves. They eat too much and are too stressed in the US compared to other places, no doubt. That's why Burkina has no idea what he's talking about when he states health care is bad in the US. I've been to Cuba, they have little to no food to eat relatively, so they have much less complicated problems. They also have low stress as there is not much to do there, no worry about working 2 jobs, there is barely a single job for most people.

    But sure, Cuban health care is better, keep living in their dream world, especially when you get AIDS and they put you in a sanitorium (I've visited there and been to these places). It's great having "health care" but little freedom

    Burk,

    get the F out with this BS, I know better, I'll give you 100-1 I've been in school and trained longer because it's a fact, jack --- you'd have to be an IVY league PhD working for the state Dept CIA or NSA to even come close and even then you wouldn't overtake my arse

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    OP is spot on, tipping in the US is root of all evil. Breaking news from Ferguson is that Michael Brown was simply trying to tip the officer for a job well done, and the heated argument that developed over tipping turned deadly. How many more people have to die before people stop tipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    You know little to nothing in this case, you're talking to a diagnostic imaging specialist, I'm not limited

    Keep the patient sick is a bunch of bogus conspiracy crap, health care is a win-win because people don't take care of themselves. They eat too much and are too stressed in the US compared to other places, no doubt. That's why Burkina has no idea what he's talking about when he states health care is bad in the US. I've been to Cuba, they have little to no food to eat relatively, so they have much less complicated problems. They also have low stress as there is not much to do there, no worry about working 2 jobs, there is barely a single job for most people.

    But sure, Cuban health care is better, keep living in their dream world, especially when you get AIDS and they put you in a sanitorium (I've visited there and been to these places). It's great having "health care" but little freedom

    Burk,

    get the F out with this BS, I know better, I'll give you 100-1 I've been in school and trained longer because it's a fact, jack --- you'd have to be an IVY league PhD working for the state Dept CIA or NSA to even come close and even then you wouldn't overtake my arse
    Do you have the authority to diagnose
    Kienbock's disease?
    POTS?
    CFS/ME?
    Vagus nerve damage?
    I know you can't and I'll bet that you never heard of these disabling diseases as well..
    I'll go as far to say that even if you did face these diseases head on you would be immediately ridiculed/shunned by your peers..

    Do you think that Lyme disease can be cured with a few weeks of antibiotics like the rest of the Insurance giants who lobby to sway Doctor's grossly by financially infesting the Lyme disease guidelines panel of so called "EXPERTS"?

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    You know that I can't yet I'm a specialist in musculoskeletal imaging, son ? Good try, I look at the lunate bone on wrist MRIs every day, son --- you have know idea what you are talking about or to whom you write

    I have forgotten more anatomy than you know, sir, of course I know about cranial nerve 10 and the diseases associated with it

    I've seen many people treated and cured from Lyme, but go ahead and believe what you want, my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    You know that I can't yet I'm a specialist in musculoskeletal imaging, son ? Good try, I look at the lunate bone on wrist MRIs every day, son --- you have know idea what you are talking about or to whom you write

    I have forgotten more anatomy than you know, sir, of course I know about cranial nerve 10 and the diseases associated with it

    I've seen many people treated and cured from Lyme, but go ahead and believe what you want, my friend
    Just because you cant even answer anyone straight, I am gonna answer you in the same way.

    "Hahaha dude u r a low-life small-town nurse from the midwest living out on insuranse fraud. Go blow some more guys on the train tracks to see if you can complete ur STD bucketlist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burkina2008 View Post
    Just because you cant even answer anyone straight, I am gonna answer you in the same way.

    "Hahaha dude u r a low-life small-town nurse from the midwest living out on insuranse fraud. Go blow some more guys on the train tracks to see if you can complete ur STD bucketlist"

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    I'll stay classy knowing you don't have a clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    I'll stay classy knowing you don't have a clue
    wrong you stay clueless because ignorance is bliss for you...btw when you come back from the train tracks dont forget to wash your teeth

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    internet tough guy who can't outdo StackinGreen in handicapping or in medical knowledge

    check it son, all verifiable

    keep losin' and postin' my man

    cuz we know you won't tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    You know that I can't yet I'm a specialist in musculoskeletal imaging, son ? Good try, I look at the lunate bone on wrist MRIs every day, son ---

    I have forgotten more anatomy than you know, sir, of course I know about cranial nerve 10 and the diseases associated with it

    I've seen many people treated and cured from Lyme, but go ahead and believe what you want, my friend
    Oh yeah, what is the procedure on treating Kienbock's disease?

    What diseases are associated with the Vagus nerve function?

    Cured from lyme just made you as incompetent as your jackass peers,lol...
    All autoimmune diseases are incurable..
    They can be put into remission and managed but are certainly not curable...
    Wow,you are incompetent,but no need to feel bad,you were EDUCATED this way,son......



    You know why doctors hate and ridicule the internet?

    Because you people can no longer lie to and bullshit the patient........

    Here's another brainteaser for ya son,
    What is Livedo reticularis and what is it connected to?
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