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    Phil Ivey suing the Borgata

    Poker pro Phil Ivey sues Borgata over cheating accusations, report says



    Poker pro Phil Ivey is countersuing the Borgata, which accused him of cheating at baccarat. (Getty Images)






    ATLANTIC CITY — Poker pro Phil Ivey is countersuing the Atlantic City casino that accused him of cheating.
    Ivey filed suit last week against the Borgata, which is in ongoing litigation with the former New Jersey resident about his use of edge-sorting while playing baccarat, according to a report on Pokerfuse.com.


    In the filing, he asked for the Borgata's $9.6 million case against him to be tossed and for compensatory damages, the report said. In edge-sorting, players observe defects on backs of cards and use their knowledge of the cards' markings to adjust betting strategies.






    Ivey allegedly had associate Cheng Yin Sun ask the dealer to rotate high value cards 90 degrees, which moved the flaw on the card back to the opposite corner and made it identifiable. Ivey also insisted that a shuffling machine be used (which keeps the cards from being spun and altered) essentially setting up a deck where he was able to identify the value of the next card off the deck to a certain degree.


    Ivey says card manufacturer Gemaco was responsible for producing cards within contractual and industry standards. He also says the Borgata knew the card manufacturing process didn't produce perfectly symmetrical card backs and later destroyed the deck of cards so they couldn't be used as evidence.
    In March, a judge denied Ivey's request to toss the Borgata'a lawsuit against him.


    Ivery, who grew up in Roselle before graduating from Old Bridge High School, amassed his the winnings in four separate marathon sessions at the Atlantic City casino in 2012. On one lucrative day in July 2012, he won $4.8 million in 17 hours by betting an average of $89,000 a hand, according to Court House News Service.


    Ivey asserts his success at the Borgata was based on skill and observation.
    The Borgata learned of Ivey's technique after officials there read a report about a London casino withholding $12.4 million he won there playing a game similar to baccarat in 2012. Ivey lost a lawsuit asking the casino to release the money, Pokernews.com reported.


    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
    Jeff Goldman may be reached at jeff_goldman@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @JGoldmanNJ. Find NJ.com on Facebook.


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    waste of money phil.......... you're a f'n cheat..... no judge or jury ever gonna throw you back the money you cheated your way into.......

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    I think this has more to do with the borgata blacklisting him and making his life difficult at other casinos. 0% chance he gets any money back. Have to LOL at the "skill and observation" argument. Skill at knowing card defects and asking the cards be dealt a certain way to observe said defect

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    Donk, legal question. If someone (an adult in their right mind)) begs u to fukk them (in front of witnesses) and you do--multiple times, do they later have a good case of rape against you? Just sayin......

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    Edge sorting & counting cards as well, are not illegal methods to gain advantage over house, they're just 'frowned upon'.
    Ivey didn't cheat, period.

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    well, funny u should ask, Katstale, as i once found myself in this predicament......... tho slightly variated.....

    had this hot brazilian model I had nailed several times back in Austin in law school.... Jane Lynch would call her a "fukk buddy".... she said she wanted to try a threesome, mmf.... so I lined up a friend of mine from corpus to come up for a weekend of partying/fun, and figured we'd go double team this hottie as a "pregame warmup" before hitting the sweet spot of Austin's night life, Sixth Street.......

    she said she was game, but when we showed up, shit went wrong..... She was dressed in the garters/heels/sexy lingerie I told her to have on when we arrived, but she didn't find my wingman suitable for fukking..... (We showed up around 6 on a sat evening, figuring to knock a few nuts out a piece before hitting sixth street).....

    I'd told her beforehand that she was to immediately start "servicing us" upon arrival, but I could tell she wasn't into my friend.... she asks me into the bedroom, and tells me she isn't into him, but says she wants to fuk me in the bedroom, leaving him out in the living room twiddling his thumbs.....

    now this puts me in a bad spot, as I'd told my buddy this ho was a sure thing, and hott as fuk..... and he obviously wanted to tag her, so I said, "no go.... you got our asses over here for a threesome, now it's time to get the show on the fukkin' road!" she starts begging me to fuk her, gets on her knees and tries to unholster my crank.... beggin' me for it..... I say "no, a deal's a deal.... let me go get _______ [name removed to protect the embarrassed]."

    she runs after me, still in sexy lingerie/heels, and tries to pull me back into the bedroom.... by now, ______ is reading the writing on the wall, and as I'm saying more shit about "all or none," _____ says "let's just go"...... I finally agree, and say, "yah, let's the get the fuk outta here and go get some pussy."

    this is when she decides to block the doorway to her condo, to try to prevent me from leaving. I say something along the lines of "move outta the way, we're leaving" [think Ludacris here, "move, bitch, get out the way, bitch, get out the way!!!"]. She pleads with me to stay, and ultimately says she'll do us both. I said something along the lines of what Kendrick Lamar would interpret to mean "bitch, you've killed my vibe," and again ask her to get away from the door......

    (The Donk is smart enough to know at this point, when dealing with a caliente crazy model from Brazil, DO NOT LAY A HAND ON HER). edit note: I do have to admit, seeing her standing there in that pearl-colored bustier and panties, in those stockings/high heels, all under duress and frantic, was turning me on in a weird rapist-type way, I suppose!

    She won't move, so I step back, and in doing so, knock a plant off her bar between the kitchen and the living room (accidentally). I say, "okay, let's you and I go into the bedroom." The second she moves from the door way, I'm out the door witih my friend in tow. We never look back and proceed to have an epic night on Sixth Street, with me scoring a hot-ass dancer from Rick's Cabaret in Houston within ten minutes of hitting Maggie Mae's........... left wingman on Sixth St, where he ultimately wound up in a fight with a pizza man on the street after I'd cabbed it back to my condo with the stripper from H-town, who'd deserted her friends as well to get some dick.....

    A few weeks later I get a citation in the mail for simple assault.........

    the bitch had called her friend, and explained the humiliating ordeal to her, who told her to call the cops..... because the Austin Police Department officers that arrived on the scene were obviously enthralled by and wanting to assist this hot ass babe, they wrote a report saying I'd thrown the ho outta the door way and into the potted plant that had been knocked off the counter.....

    got the case dismissed, after giving her some more dick solo and "romancing" her into not pursuing the charges.....

    so, you never know, Katstale, you just never know...........
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    He's a cheat in my book. But I would also do the same thing if I noticed a flaw. We all would. Tough spot.

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    Just trying to save his name. For the backlash that he has got from casinos it's a bad rap. He is a true gambler and you can only go to so many backdoor places with the kind of money he likes to play.

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