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    Pay this man

    ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
    Hand ID 4243131
    $2/$4 NL Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 00:17:37 18/05/2014 ET
    Table 'Freebird', 6 seats max, Real money
    Seat 5 is the button. Small Blind $2, Big Blind $4
    Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
    Seat 1 (sitOut) : thecentaur, amount $388.30, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 2 (playing) : yahoonino, amount $200, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 3 (playing) : stikymess, amount $158, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 4 (playing) : d2bets, amount $277.80, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 5 (playing) : hockey216, amount $940.70, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 6 (playing) : spurginobili1, amount $276.90, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    spurginobili1: Small Blind ($2)
    yahoonino: Big Blind ($4)
    ** Dealing Down Cards **
    Dealt to hockey216: [9h, 6c]
    stikymess: Call ($4)
    d2bets: Fold
    hockey216: Fold [pre] ($0)
    spurginobili1: Raise ($12)
    yahoonino: Raise ($20)
    stikymess: Fold
    spurginobili1: Call ($8)
    ** Dealing Flop **
    Community cards: [8d, Th, Jh]
    spurginobili1: Check ($0)
    yahoonino: Bet ($12)
    spurginobili1: Call ($12)
    ** Dealing Turn **
    Community cards: [Kh]
    spurginobili1: Check ($0)
    yahoonino: Bet ($22)
    spurginobili1: Raise ($44)
    yahoonino: Call ($22)
    ** Dealing River **
    Community cards: [As]
    spurginobili1: Bet ($100)
    yahoonino: Call ($100)
    ** End Round **
    ** Evaluate **
    spurginobili1: Show Cards ($0)
    yahoonino: Muck ($0)
    ** Showdown **
    Main pot $354, Rake $2
    Summary yahoonino: bet $180, won $0, net $-180, HoleCards [Ts, Td]
    Summary spurginobili1: bet $178, won $354, net $176, HoleCards [Ah, Qh], HiHand [a royal flush] [Ah, Kh, Qh, Jh, Th], won $354 from main pot

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    u h o h!

    Quote Originally Posted by hockey216 View Post
    ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
    Hand ID 4243131
    $2/$4 NL Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 00:17:37 18/05/2014 ET
    Table 'Freebird', 6 seats max, Real money
    Seat 5 is the button. Small Blind $2, Big Blind $4
    Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
    Seat 1 (sitOut) : thecentaur, amount $388.30, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 2 (playing) : yahoonino, amount $200, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 3 (playing) : stikymess, amount $158, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 4 (playing) : d2bets, amount $277.80, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 5 (playing) : hockey216, amount $940.70, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 6 (playing) : spurginobili1, amount $276.90, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    spurginobili1: Small Blind ($2)
    yahoonino: Big Blind ($4)
    ** Dealing Down Cards **
    Dealt to hockey216: [9h, 6c]
    stikymess: Call ($4)
    d2bets: Fold
    hockey216: Fold [pre] ($0)
    spurginobili1: Raise ($12)
    yahoonino: Raise ($20)
    stikymess: Fold
    spurginobili1: Call ($8)
    ** Dealing Flop **
    Community cards: [8d, Th, Jh]
    spurginobili1: Check ($0)
    yahoonino: Bet ($12)
    spurginobili1: Call ($12)
    ** Dealing Turn **
    Community cards: [Kh]
    spurginobili1: Check ($0)
    yahoonino: Bet ($22)
    spurginobili1: Raise ($44)
    yahoonino: Call ($22)
    ** Dealing River **
    Community cards: [As]
    spurginobili1: Bet ($100)
    yahoonino: Call ($100)
    ** End Round **
    ** Evaluate **
    spurginobili1: Show Cards ($0)
    yahoonino: Muck ($0)
    ** Showdown **
    Main pot $354, Rake $2
    Summary yahoonino: bet $180, won $0, net $-180, HoleCards [Ts, Td]
    Summary spurginobili1: bet $178, won $354, net $176, HoleCards [Ah, Qh], HiHand [a royal flush] [Ah, Kh, Qh, Jh, Th], won $354 from main pot
    wow.... this situation reads alot like one of my first year law school exams..... an outta country sham website advertises on all of its tables that a royal pays 1500 pts, yet in one measly post by an adminstrator of the third-world country website, the administrator posted, very uncerimoniously, a one-line sentence saying essentially "promo ended"..... yet the sbullshitr tables still proudly entice unsuspecting members of real countries to play their tables with the promise of this huge 1500 pt payout (big money here, about 50 bucks).

    Setting all the jurisdictional issues aside, the legal question is whether sbullshitr's continuing to advertise the promo has "legally revived" it, to nullify the one sentence "ending" of the promo. Depending on which jurisdictions' law is applied (spot all of the "choice of law" issues here in your answer--use the most signigicant contacts analysis for an "a"), if the law that is applied holds that the continued representations made by sbr -- after it's alleged ending of the promo -- that it will pay 1500 for a royal, in effect have revoked the alleged ending of the promo, sbullshitr must pay the 1500. A skilled judge will look to see what benefit sbullshitr has recevied from continuing to proudly display on its tables the promo, and if it finds that sbr has reaped a benefit from the continiued "misrepresentation" that it will pay on royals, the court will indeed make it pay Hockey the cash.......

    but, as I told beer dog, call johnny cochran's firm, have them use "ghost johnny's" voice to succinctly state to the the asian sounding women who anser the phone at sbr, "Pay Hockey his royal flush cash, or your asian tranny nuts I will smash!"

    they'll pay soon thereafter! Or tell em, "snoop doggy dog and dr dre are at the door!!!" at least that 'll get the party started!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    wow.... this situation reads alot like one of my first year law school exams..... an outta country sham website advertises on all of its tables that a royal pays 1500 pts, yet in one measly post by an adminstrator of the third-world country website, the administrator posted, very uncerimoniously, a one-line sentence saying essentially "promo ended"..... yet the sbullshitr tables still proudly entice unsuspecting members of real countries to play their tables with the promise of this huge 1500 pt payout (big money here, about 50 bucks).

    Setting all the jurisdictional issues aside, the legal question is whether sbullshitr's continuing to advertise the promo has "legally revived" it, to nullify the one sentence "ending" of the promo. Depending on which jurisdictions' law is applied (spot all of the "choice of law" issues here in your answer--use the most signigicant contacts analysis for an "a"), if the law that is applied holds that the continued representations made by sbr -- after it's alleged ending of the promo -- that it will pay 1500 for a royal, in effect have revoked the alleged ending of the promo, sbullshitr must pay the 1500. A skilled judge will look to see what benefit sbullshitr has recevied from continuing to proudly display on its tables the promo, and if it finds that sbr has reaped a benefit from the continiued "misrepresentation" that it will pay on royals, the court will indeed make it pay Hockey the cash.......

    but, as I told beer dog, call johnny cochran's firm, have them use "ghost johnny's" voice to succinctly state to the the asian sounding women who anser the phone at sbr, "Pay Hockey his royal flush cash, or your asian tranny nuts I will smash!"

    they'll pay soon thereafter! Or tell em, "snoop doggy dog and dr dre are at the door!!!" at least that 'll get the party started!
    On the other hand, since there's no real consideration, it would be difficult to define SBR poker as gambling, or to consider any significant damages done. On top of that, the US doesn't have the moral standing to make any such decisions, especially not after we've been ducking the WTC rulings against s concerning online gambling for years.

    In other words, don't look a gift donkey in the mouth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple_D_Bet View Post
    On the other hand, since there's no real consideration, it would be difficult to define SBR poker as gambling, or to consider any significant damages done. On top of that, the US doesn't have the moral standing to make any such decisions, especially not after we've been ducking the WTC rulings against s concerning online gambling for years.

    In other words, don't look a gift donkey in the mouth!
    The way hockey was crying after i left the table with 800 of his chips, only to rebuy a lesser rolloever in a lesser game, I'd say his 1500 pts are pretty damn significant to him..... what a puzzy he is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    The way hockey was crying after i left the table with 800 of his chips, only to rebuy a lesser rolloever in a lesser game, I'd say his 1500 pts are pretty damn significant to him..... what a puzzy he is!
    I don't give a shit about points. I blow all my points in the casino every time i get them. I don't care.

    I was objecting to the fact that you took my chips off the table.

    You can't buy in for 250, run it up to 1,000... then switch to another 2/4 table and only put 200 on table. You can't take 750 chips off the table.

    Taking chips off the table is cheating.

    You are a cheater. You can't take another players chips off the table.

    BigDeem does the same thing. There is no ethics on SBR. It's bad enough with all the hitting and running around here, but everyone wants to also take your chips off the table as soon as they double up?

    Come on.

    I don't care about points.

    I care about you not cheating.
    Last edited by hockey216; 05-24-14 at 10:17 PM.

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    As much as I despise Donkey boy, I don't see how he cheated. There's a 30 minute rule for returning to the same table with the same amount of chips you left with. But no rule against leaving a table & going to a different table for a lesser amount. This happens all the time with the different size of rollovers people have. So if SBR isn't preventing it, how is it exactly cheating? Unethical perhaps, but cheating no. You "don't care about pts," so it really shouldn't concern you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockey216 View Post
    I don't give a shit about points. I blow all my points in the casino every time i get them. I don't care.

    I was objecting to the fact that you took my chips off the table.

    You can't buy in for 250, run it up to 1,000... then switch to another 2/4 table and only put 200 on table. You can't take 750 chips off the table.

    Taking chips off the table is cheating.

    You are a cheater. You can't take another players chips off the table.

    BigDeem does the same thing. There is no ethics on SBR. It's bad enough with all the hitting and running around here, but everyone wants to also take your chips off the table as soon as they double up?

    Come on.

    I don't care about points.

    I care about you not cheating.
    you're also forgetting to mention that YOU LEFT THE TABLE you whiny bastard..... so did the other guy, and then me, to go do yet another lame ass rollover...... in a casino, if I bust a table and the loser (you in this case), gets up and leaves, and I pick up my chips, then u decide to buy back in, I don't have to put shit up other than the minimum buy in...... and if points don't matter, stop f'n crying about them..... Just to humor you, after I donked off the other rollover that I changed to, I bought in for another 200 just to let you have a shot at them...... as usual, u missed...... I'm the first to say these rollovers suck, but don't call me a cheater for having to switch to yet another one after I finished off the bigger one against your donk ass......

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    you are a liar.

    I left for 1min, then came right back. You were still sitting at the table AFTER i returned.

    You were AT THE TABLE when i returned. You switched to another table AFTER that, JUST so you could take my chips off the table.

    Stop lying, to make it seem like i left, never returned, and you just happened to be at another table when i got back. You are a liar. That is not what happened.

    You said "gonna re-buy with a different freeplay" then moved to an empty table to make me find you there with 800 less points. You took my points off table, then moved to another table to buy in 200... when you had roughly 1,000 at the previous table.

    I don't care about points.

    I care that you stop cheating.
    Last edited by hockey216; 05-25-14 at 02:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    As much as I despise Donkey boy, I don't see how he cheated. There's a 30 minute rule for returning to the same table with the same amount of chips you left with. But no rule against leaving a table & going to a different table for a lesser amount. This happens all the time with the different size of rollovers people have. So if SBR isn't preventing it, how is it exactly cheating? Unethical perhaps, but cheating no. You "don't care about pts," so it really shouldn't concern you.
    we were playing heads up/3way, then he left table, taking my points with him, moved to an empty table (same limit), forcing me to play him at another table.

    He forced me to resume heads up at another table solely to take my points out of play.

    There was nobody at the other table. He moved to an empty table just so he could take my points out of play.

    When you are playing heads up, you can't make your opponent switch to another table after you double up, then buy in less, taking all of his points out of play.
    Last edited by hockey216; 05-25-14 at 02:05 AM.

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    I wasn't even going to bring this up, but when you invade my threads attacking me, the public has the right to know you are a lying cheater.

    Next time you come invade my threads attacking me, make sure you haven't cheated in the last 24 hours.

    This was a thread i created to try to reward a fellow poster for receiving a royal flush.

    You have no place attacking me, especially when you are a lying cheater, when i am just trying to reward a fellow poster with 1500 betpoints for a royal flush.
    Last edited by hockey216; 05-25-14 at 02:05 AM.

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    Education on how unethical going south is. See what professional players think. Freddy Deeb got accused of taking chips off table on High Stake Poker show, and other players got seriously offended. Freddy, knowing how unethical this type of cheating is, got defensive.


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    This thread was a reward for a player that won a jackpot for hitting a royal flush.

    In respect for my attempt to reward this player, this thread is closed. We can have a discussion about ethics in a private setting.

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    I'm just playing for fun.. Apparently sbr hates me in the summer series.. It's getting ridiculous now

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    shows u how closely i read that hand..... I THOUGHT U HIT THE ROYAL, HOCKEY..... I was advocating that you should have received it. If we ran a poll on whether I'm a hit n run cheater, i think u'd stand alone on both counts.... hittin' n runnin', and cheating..... The only time i've ever hit n ran i warned the table I had like five mins to play, and was going to get it all in on some hand, and then, win or lose, I was out. When I tripled up three hands in, I said "Add me to the list.... I'm gone." As much as we've played together, I'm surprised you would question my motives. I had another rollover to play, and playing two heads up tables on sbr, as quick as that action is, and playing one table on another site, is maddening..... tables pop up left and right and you damn near time out every other hand. I've never hit n ran u, and once again, in the words of George W.: YOU CUT AND RAN FROM THE TABLE!!!!! You didn't bust out, but your thousand starting stack was down to around 2-300, and YOU BAILED!!!!!!! Alright, outta respect for whoever the hell hit the royal and got shafted, that's the last I'll say anything about it on this table.

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    Since nobody has brought it up yet, this promo ended a while ago too...beerdog actually got shafted on his royal when he hit it before they announced it was done, don't think he's been paid yet. Pay THAT man his money SBR

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    oh whoops i thought the promo was still going. i took a long break from sbr poker and didn't realize it ended.

    honest mistake.

    was just trying to get a guy paid since i thought promo was still active.

    hell, the tables still say "Royal flush pays 1,500 points."

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockey216 View Post
    hell, the tables still say "Royal flush pays 1,500 points."
    Why the false advertising SBR? If you're not honoring promo, remove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockey216 View Post
    oh whoops i thought the promo was still going. i took a long break from sbr poker and didn't realize it ended.

    honest mistake.

    was just trying to get a guy paid since i thought promo was still active.

    hell, the tables still say "Royal flush pays 1,500 points."
    Yeah, seems silly...but it's not like people are playing because of it either, just slightly disappointing if you get one I guess. The casino says "where dreams come true", and we all know it doesn't always work that way

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    We will honor royals until the software can be updated. Users will have to send a PM to this account, the SBR Forum account, with the exact hand history.

    Thanks.

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    If the user doesn't have PM access?

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    I just pm'd sbrforum with the hand history telling them to pay spurginobili.

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    Damn....I wish I would have wrote down the hand # on my royal a couple weeks back. Just figured the promo was done.

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    just got the PM from SBRForum that SBR awarded spurginobili1 the 1500 points for the royal.

    Thanks, SBR!

    Congratulations, Spur!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockey216 View Post
    just got the PM from SBRForum that SBR awarded spurginobili1 the 1500 points for the royal.

    Thanks, SBR!

    Congratulations, Spur!

    Wow! Thanks Hockey. I'd forgotten about it. Didn't expect anything since they announced that the promo was over.

    Mighty righteous of you sir.

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    Daaaaaamn, nice work hocker and SBR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockey216 View Post
    Education on how unethical going south is. See what professional players think. Freddy Deeb got accused of taking chips off table on High Stake Poker show, and other players got seriously offended. Freddy, knowing how unethical this type of cheating is, got defensive.

    great vid

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    If the user doesn't have PM access?
    and he wanna be a baller.... shot caller..... 10" blades on his broke ass impala!!! get it u dumb fck..........

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    good luck with it! All indications are it will be paid........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple_D_Bet View Post
    Daaaaaamn, nice work hocker and SBR!
    don't forget about johnny f'n ghost cocharan.... "pay spurno on his royal flush, or our third world website I will crush!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    and he wanna be a baller.... shot caller..... 10" blades on his broke ass impala!!! get it u dumb fck..........
    Get this Donkey?

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    Thank you for your points. I truly appreciate it.

    I was just trying to get a fellow poster paid 1,500 for his royal.

    Didn't expect any donation, but hey, I just put your 300 points to good use and bought a $20 Papa Johns pizza for 425.

    Thanks!

    (love this site for the free pizza)


    Last edited by hockey216; 05-28-14 at 01:34 AM.
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