[lakerboy]

Bet early. Get the best lines. Klc last night took heat ml+ 280. It was was+ 450 to open. Now Harry loyd just posted nuggets -4. It opened -1.5.

[Jayvegas420]

But what about when the line moves against you and you wished you had waited?

[jtoler]

Some guys dont live and die gambling like us LB. People have families and other obligations, so do I, but I hit the lines when they first come out and know 80% of the time which way its going to move, if I want a better number I wait, if I know the number will get smaller I pounce.

[Jayvegas420]

I seem to know 50% of the time!

[Harry N. Lloyd]

If I could go back in time and buy Microsoft for $20/share I'd do it. In reality you have to buy at the market price. When Denver jumps from 1.5 to 4 you should recognize where the smart money is going.

[t-wizzle]

Heat line dropped because Jazz had a bunch of key players out.

[Ra77er]

Whats going on with the Timberwolves game?

Noah questionable?

[t-wizzle]

Whats going on with the Timberwolves game?

Noah questionable?

He blows anyway.

[lakerboy]

If I could go back in time and buy Microsoft for $20/share I'd do it. In reality you have to buy at the market price. When Denver jumps from 1.5 to 4 you should recognize where the smart money is going.

Harry I like your work you know that. Please don't tell me your not smart.

[lakerboy]

But what about when the line moves against you and you wished you had waited?

Accept the loss.

[downsouth]

But what about when the line moves against you and you wished you had waited?

If you are consistently having the line move against you then you should probably stop betting as odds are you are not winning anything over time.

[Sam Odom]

Sports gamblin' is ALL about #s

[jjgold]

Lines go other way too

All random

[downsouth]

Lines go other way too

All random

So much stupid

[Sam Odom]

Lines go other way too

All random

pounding any team tonight ?

[DOM_Toretto]

Bet favs early, dogs late. You don't want public dogs anyhow.

[Ra77er]

Duck got a good number on Ohio betting a dog early.

[triplecrown333]

i got burned once going in early when the coaches decide to sit players on b2b games

[Jayvegas420]

If you are consistently having the line move against you then you should probably stop betting as odds are you are not winning anything over time.

50%-50%.

I have a hard time believing anyone here beats the closing line with much more consistency.

[triplecrown333]

this reminds me of t powell, what happened to him? havent seen him since his last bitch thread...

[sportsfan9698]

Lines go other way too

All random

JJ is far more correct than most of you think. BUT the most important part of this is that the line move DOES NOT MATTER in 98% of the games. We tend to remember the games where the result is very close to the closing line, but in reality it rarely makes any difference. I will start a thread to illustrate this to everybody today. We have about 8 CBB, 9 NBA games, and a couple CFB. I will say that maybe one of them will fall into this category.

[lakerboy]

Sports fan. Just stop.

[sportsfan9698]

Sports fan. Just stop.

Stop what? I will start the thread and prove my point. If I am wrong you can laugh then

[sportsfan9698]

I will use the Bookmaker opening and closing line. It is widely available

[jtoler]

JJ is far more correct than most of you think. BUT the most important part of this is that the line move DOES NOT MATTER in 98% of the games. We tend to remember the games where the result is very close to the closing line, but in reality it rarely makes any difference. I will start a thread to illustrate this to everybody today. We have about 8 CBB, 9 NBA games, and a couple CFB. I will say that maybe one of them will fall into this category.

You cant prove that because its been proven otherwise. Besides common sense says otherwise also.

[Harry N. Lloyd]

SportsFan, college hoops numbers are razor sharp. A bad number there will kill ya. NBA not so much.

[sportsfan9698]

Hell I can do that now for last nights action.... here we go

Seton Hall -17 -15 won by 24 didn't matter
Troy -3.5 -6 lost by 6 didn't matter
Miss St -8 -9 won by 17 didn't matter

I will do the whole days action if you really want me to prove my point

[DOM-Ganador]

If you are an OVER total better, have to get in @ the opener. Unders should sit on their hands.

Lines a hellava lot more variance. Obviously love beating closer, but seems it simply hasn`t been
that significant to my BR.

BUT, LB is right. don`t chase line movement getting bad #s and MLs. That shit will kill you in long run.

[lakerboy]

Stop what? I will start the thread and prove my point. If I am wrong you can laugh then

I don't need to laugh. Sports gambling is all about getting the best lines.

It is the difference that covers juice.

My example is klc.

He took heat ml +280 last night. He should have gotten +425.

That's $145 he left on the table. On -110 spread lines that covers 14.5 lost bets on $100 bets.

[sportsfan9698]

I just looked over all of the action from Thursday... ONE game it mattered

Arkansas -12 -19 won by 16

that particular game moved to -17 at 8:31 AM. So unless you were going to get your play in the early morning, you will would not have avoided the number

[Sam Odom]

I don't need to laugh. Sports gambling is all about getting the best lines.

laker been getting the good #s for yrs

[sportsfan9698]

If you believe line shopping and getting your action in early is a bit edge, more the power to you. The truth is there are many very different ways to find an edge in this business. point shaving is one of them, but certainly not at all the only approach

[vividjohn45]

Its not always that easy. In nhl you have to wait for keepers to be confirmed. So opening lines are a gamble. As of 1145a today. No games keepers are completely confirmed and lines out since yesterday. Like yesterday i loved pitt ov 5.5. Pitt today in a 6 gm over streak. But keepers were not confirmed til late morning after their morning skate. And i was at work and missed the wager

[sportsfan9698]

^^^ Yes same goes for MLB you cannot wager MLB at all until you have a lineup which comes out in the afternoon for evening games

[vividjohn45]

If you believe line shopping and getting your action in early is a bit edge, more the power to you. The truth is there are many very different ways to find an edge in this business. point shaving is one of them, but certainly not at all the only approach

Dude. I work for a living in tulsa oklahoma like im associated with point shaving maffiasio covert operations. You make it out to sound. Like you know who point shavers are? Which if you did know who was point shaving. Why you cant pick winners.? **** also. Lol. You state point shaving is a edge. Lol. Like duh? No shit sherlock