1. 12-02-16 12:21 PM #36
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    That is not what I meant if you were following the conversation you would know that.

    Are an asshole in real life or just an internet asshole?
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  2. 12-02-16 12:38 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfan9698 View Post
    That is not what I meant if you were following the conversation you would know that.

    Are an asshole in real life or just an internet asshole?
    Just not following the point shaving argument as a edge in sportsbetting. To know that data you have to be deep mafiasio. And only jj has that kind of connection around this forum. At least as a daily poster.
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  3. 12-02-16 12:47 PM #38
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    Sports fan.
    I might be wrong but, are you confusing point shaving with line shopping?
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  4. 12-02-16 12:48 PM #39
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    Point shaving involves players, refs & coaches.
    Line shopping involves the books.
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  5. 12-02-16 12:57 PM #40
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    I used the term point shaving meaning line shopping, and wagering early... anything in which you worry about 0.5 point and such.

    I was trying to make the point that the result of a cover or not covering rarely actually comes down to such matters... 95% of the games are decided by several to dozens of points.

    I know what point shaving means. my bad
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  6. 12-02-16 12:59 PM #41
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    I'd say it's closer to 85%-90%
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  7. 12-02-16 01:02 PM #42
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    I always have the best numbers because after I bet, I don't look at where line ended up. why should I?
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  8. 12-02-16 01:02 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfan9698 View Post
    I used the term point shaving meaning line shopping, and wagering early... anything in which you worry about 0.5 point and such.

    I was trying to make the point that the result of a cover or not covering rarely actually comes down to such matters... 95% of the games are decided by several to dozens of points.

    I know what point shaving means. my bad
    Any and every body even remotely related to sports betting would never insinuate "point shaving" to mean anything other than a player or players purposely not covering a point spread and youre the guy that's gonna prove that beating the closer doesnt matter?
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  9. 12-02-16 01:13 PM #44
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    Sportsfan, you have to think long term. Say that you bet 10 plays a day for a year at 110 to win 100.

    Say you made a total of 3650 plays.

    Normally, you win 1825, and lose 1825, for a loss of 9125

    Say that instead, you get the best line, and it matters only 5% of the time. So now, you win ~1916 plays, losing 1734.

    Total Profit 191,600
    Total Loss 190,740

    Total winnings 760$
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  10. 12-02-16 01:18 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Sports fan. Just stop.
    Funny as he jumps in every thread acting like has a clue but picks losers at an 80% clip....you can't make this shit up LB
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  11. 12-02-16 01:28 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    Funny as he jumps in every thread acting like has a clue but picks losers at an 80% clip....you can't make this shit up LB
    Oh really? I haven't looked at his thread. Wow.
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  12. 12-02-16 01:35 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Oh really? I haven't looked at his thread. Wow.
    No need to unless you need a good laugh or make sure you aren't on the same side as him
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  13. 12-02-16 01:36 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    No need to unless you need a good laugh or make sure you aren't on the same side as him
    Few drinks tonight then I Will weigh in.
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  14. 12-02-16 01:36 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    No need to unless you need a good laugh or make sure you aren't on the same side as him
    I will post my winners tonight... mostly for you guys to fade
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  15. 12-02-16 01:37 PM #50
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    No such thing as best time to bet a game

    Moves go against you a lot also

    Pinny juice more valuable
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  16. 12-02-16 01:38 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    No such thing as best time to bet a game

    Moves go against you a lot also

    Pinny juice more valuable
    Agreed.
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  17. 12-02-16 01:47 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    No such thing as best time to bet a game

    Moves go against you a lot also

    Pinny juice more valuable
    True but you don't get my point.
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  18. 12-02-16 01:50 PM #53
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    Live betting changes all.

    All I wanted yesterday was a Cowboys ML at -115 or less, had to control myself and be patient, which wasn't easy, but got it and hit it. Pick your spots, load your guns, and bring home dinner men.
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