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    Snowball
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    Toledo will win at BYU tonight. (155)

    This BYU team is in building mode, they are not prepared for the kind
    of offensive production Toledo generates. Toledo has swagger, they
    want to beat a pasty pinata like BYU, especially on their home turf.

    Expect the Rockets to outpace BYU's defense, get to the red zone
    frequently and score enough to win, maybe by over a TD even.

    Toledo's defense can also cut down on passing yards, BYU may get
    some runs but it's not going to be enough to outscore the Rockets.

    This is a homer line for BYU, the casual bettor has no idea what
    Toledo is really like, and they just see BYU at home and figure,
    "can't bet against that", well, yes you can.

    The weather will be sunny and clear, low humidity and 0-4 mph wind,
    which is important for the Rockets' superior speed and dexterity.

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    good luck, i might roll with this...

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    I was going to pound Toledo as well, but not sure how they will deal with light air in Utah so I took over 52.

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    agreed

    I like this Toledo squad

    not sold on new byu coach

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    I was looking at this earlier this morning. I think I'll agree with you and make a small wager here.

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    watch out for this team this year

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    I took BYU ML

    -180

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    Men vs the boys tonight ..... kinda crazy dont you think ... BYU -3 when they are 1-3 and Toledo is 3-0 ....... weird # ....pointing to a BYU in a blowout imo

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    elevation + clear eyed, bushy tailed, drug free men....will handle Toledo and their 600 feet above sea level conditioning

    lets knock some heads

    Mormon strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by House View Post
    Men vs the boys tonight ..... kinda crazy dont you think ... BYU -3 when they are 1-3 and Toledo is 3-0 ....... weird # ....pointing to a BYU in a blowout imo
    Gotta look at competition

    BYU played Zona, UCLA, Utah, WVU

    Toledo played Fresno State, Ark State and Maine

    I think Toledo could be a good play but surprised everyone on here is thinking they're a home run. BYU hung with all those teams, and edged out Zona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Time is Money View Post
    Gotta look at competition

    BYU played Zona, UCLA, Utah, WVU

    Toledo played Fresno State, Ark State and Maine

    I think Toledo could be a good play but surprised everyone on here is thinking they're a home run. BYU hung with all those teams, and edged out Zona.
    Agreed.

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    I took O52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooleez21 View Post
    Agreed.

    Exactly. If toledo played BYUs schedule and BYU played toledo, toledo would be 0-4 and BYU would be 3-0 and likely 10.5 favorites. Getting a solid td discount on the tough schedule BYU has played.

    Additionally, if you look at BYU opposing teams QBR, all relatively avg. They have a solid pass def and should be able to edge toledo. Toledo is in trouble in provo. Love the BYU play.

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    I look for Toledo to go 10-0 and just might go 12-0.

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    Toledo knows this and will be trying extremely hard tonight at the opportunity to coast the rest of the way in attempt for perfect record.

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    BYU has been tested and lost by a few points in each of their 3 losses. toledo hasnt been hit in the mouth yet but tonight they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4$$ion View Post
    BYU has been tested and lost by a few points in each of their 3 losses. toledo hasnt been hit in the mouth yet but tonight they will.
    Roger that. Toledo fake.

    Anyone know if the injury report is meaningful for BYU ?? I saw a bunch of guys but don't know if they are meaningful contributors or have solid backups.

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    BYU losses have been respectable and they could easily be 4-0 right now. they beat arizona, a team that played washington closely last game, they lost to ucla by 3 who almost beat stanford and lost a close one to utah.

    i dont see why byu doesnt win by 10+

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    Toledo hasnt played anybody.... BYU ML is the play...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    yet byu still only lost by 3 against a decent WV team @ WV. 3 of BYUs game have been on the road too while toledo has only played against a garbage arkansas state team on the road.

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    just going by what I see, guys.. watched them both play, feel Toledo worth an
    underdog bet for reasons stated.

    on the scale of extra small, small, medium, large, extra large
    this is about a medium, run of the mill size, i'm bigger on Duke tomorrow.

    probably not going to make it to game time finish, will be very late

    as always the way i play sports is to start small then build up by winning,
    i don't plop down thousands unless those thousands are winnings.

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    Good luck snowball may the better handicapper win this game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philmill View Post
    Toledo hasnt played anybody.... BYU ML is the play...!
    I've never understood this argument. If you think BYU is better, fine. But just because Toledo hasn't played anyone doesn't mean they aren't talented or capable of beating BYU. Yes, SOS is an important part of handicapping, but it isn't everything.

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    Not a fan of BYU's qb watched him for years he tries to do too much. Would love to take Toledo its not so much the weak schedule that might keep me off but rather the hunger BYU should possess after starting 1-3 and now back home. Toledo returned 3 guys on defense, their offense is gimmicky enough and they usually have enough guys to put pts on the board this looks like an over maybe. Toledo's offense may click early but I dont think BYU will have much problem putting pts on the board either.

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    Staff trying to force Taysom Hill to be a pocket QB when he's not. The numbers show it.

    I like Toledo too, but only enough for a lean. BYU a much better team when Taysom is running and eventually getting injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    This BYU team is in building mode, they are not prepared for the kind
    of offensive production Toledo generates. Toledo has swagger, they
    want to beat a pasty pinata like BYU, especially on their home turf.

    Expect the Rockets to outpace BYU's defense, get to the red zone
    frequently and score enough to win, maybe by over a TD even.

    Toledo's defense can also cut down on passing yards, BYU may get
    some runs but it's not going to be enough to outscore the Rockets.

    This is a homer line for BYU, the casual bettor has no idea what
    Toledo is really like, and they just see BYU at home and figure,
    "can't bet against that", well, yes you can.

    The weather will be sunny and clear, low humidity and 0-4 mph wind,
    which is important for the Rockets' superior speed and dexterity.
    swagger like we don't give a f...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Good luck snowball may the better handicapper win this game
    JJ Duke is not losing tomorrow.

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    Briggum will have God on their side.

    On the other hand, God has never been to Ohio

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    Over 51.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn View Post
    Briggum will have God on their side.

    On the other hand, God has never been to Ohio
    The Cavs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time is Money View Post
    Gotta look at competition

    BYU played Zona, UCLA, Utah, WVU

    Toledo played Fresno State, Ark State and Maine

    I think Toledo could be a good play but surprised everyone on here is thinking they're a home run. BYU hung with all those teams, and edged out Zona.

    How a team matches up is much more critical than strength of schedule. Always has been. Football is about matchups, not strength of schedule (although that's what people tend to focus on)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbfromgpt View Post
    How a team matches up is much more critical than strength of schedule. Always has been. Football is about matchups, not strength of schedule (although that's what people tend to focus on)
    Exactly. I've never understood the "well they haven't played anyone, so they're not that good" argument.

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    This UT team is for real. Watch.

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    Gl, hardly never make quarter bets but Imma roll with Rokets 1st quarter here.
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