[PorkChop]

Everyone is fired up this morning, i love it

[BigdaddyQH]

It is real simple. Clemson has been there, done that. Louisville has not. On top of all of this, it is a night game in Death Valley. Turnovers should decide it. This is the type of game that will be great to watch with nothing riding on it. That why there is so much line movement early on. The books have to sucker all of the degenerates who can't watch a game into a wager. That is about 95% of the people in here who actually may wager 51-10 bucks. For the Sharps, it is probably a pass. This could be a bait and switch. Watch the line closely, especially on Saturday.

[t-wizzle]

Wiz you think line moves by Saturday more to L'Ville?

No I think it's moved about as much as it will. Louisville will be at most -2.5 but more likely it hops around between -1/+1.

[sweep]

It is real simple. Clemson has been there, done that. Louisville has not. On top of all of this, it is a night game in Death Valley. Turnovers should decide it. This is the type of game that will be great to watch with nothing riding on it. That why there is so much line movement early on. The books have to sucker all of the degenerates who can't watch a game into a wager. That is about 95% of the people in here who actually may wager 51-10 bucks. For the Sharps, it is probably a pass. This could be a bait and switch. Watch the line closely, especially on Saturday.

hey idiot, in less than half the years in existence Louisvilles records match up well with Clemson...both 50/50 in bowl games, Clemson with a 60 year head start. DUMBFUKK!!!

[t-wizzle]

Why argue about either of these programs' histories? Different players, different coaches, etc. Neither team is a historical powerhouse.

[Memento]

Why argue about either of these programs' histories? Different players, different coaches, etc. Neither team is a historical powerhouse.

Internet says not true: Clemson has a .604 winning percentage after playing nearly 1150 games over 120 years. Clemson owned the ACC in 80's....'81 nat. champ. They have 21 conference championships and finished in the top 25 rankings 31 times.

[TheCaliforniaKid]

Louisville is 5-5 vs winning teams and also just 3-5 ON GRASS. Clemson 13-2 and 23-4. I'll take the established team that's supposed to be contending for a championship. Clemson wins this game.

[astro61200]

I'll be on Louisville for a bit, but the over for more. Could easily go over before the 3rd quarter ends.

Also, to those talking about Clemson being established blah blah, Louisville was a FG away from playing for the NC about 10 years ago, had Michael Bush not gotten hurt in the first game they probably would have been there. Routinely in the top 10-15 during Petrino's first tenure, and back to a top 15 team for the second half of Strong's era.

Regardless, it doesn't matter much. Neither of them is football royalty so their pasts, when the current players weren't born or were only in 3rd grade, doesn't mean anything.

[TheCaliforniaKid]

Established meaning the team that was in the Championship game 9 months ago; not the team you quote from years ago. You just better defined what I wrote. Thanks so much!!

[TPowell]

I'll def have money on Clemson if I get plus odds. Put simply, Louisville is NOT that much better than Clemson. Clemson has a great home field edge and this will be a night game with College Gameday there. I'm not sure Jackson and the young OL will be able to handle such an environment. If they can't, Louisville will be in all kinds of trouble offensively.

[Knockonwood]

I'll take Defense anytime over offense...............................

[astro61200]

I'll take Defense anytime over offense...............................

So.. you're on Louisville?

[astro61200]

So.. you're on Louisville?

Scratch that, just saw Clemson massively improved their defensive stats against a FCS team 2 weeks ago. So guess that means you're on Clemson.

Good luck to everyone, I'll be on Louisville. Their general stats are a skewed since they bring in their backups in the 3rd/4th quarter every game. Maybe the starters will get a full game in this time.

[CanuckG]

[CanuckG]

Shocked Clemson is a home dog here.

[gambler705]

Cards actually should be -5

Wrong line

Might be huge play

What planet do you live on?
Louisville may win , thats not the point, but where on this planet would u ever expect to get Clemson +5 in this spot??????

[astro61200]

Cards actually should be -5

Wrong line

Might be huge play

This guy gets it. Not often I say that about jj, but he's on it this time.

[shooms79]

It's gonna be a crazy game. I locked it in Sunday before lines changed. I have Louisville +2 +8 in a tease with Uh and TT. And now that line flipped may tease Clemson +8/9 and double dip uh and TT. Go big or go home Boyz.

[rm18]

Lville was +11.5 a couple weeks ago.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Wiz you think line moves by Saturday more to L'Ville?

Lot of money coming in on Ville. I think the line moves more. I will be on Clemson and will also look for a Live bet early if Ville goes up early. This is shaping up to be a public burial already.

[PorkChop]

Lot of money coming in on Ville. I think the line moves more. I will be on Clemson and will also look for a Live bet early if Ville goes up early. This is shaping up to be a public burial already.

Absolutely.

I already locked in Clemson at plus money yesterday. 80 percent on L'Ville. LOL.

The same exact roster was -10.5 weeks ago, and now Im getting plus money at home, with the world on the other side. Oh baby!

[ZINISTER]

What cha thinkin bout? What cha trippin on? See What I'm Grippin on? Takin the Tagers to shyt Cardinal feathers! GL

[ZINISTER]

sperience wins

[t-wizzle]

Lot of money coming in on Ville. I think the line moves more. I will be on Clemson and will also look for a Live bet early if Ville goes up early. This is shaping up to be a public burial already.

The question is whether it moves to Ville -3. I don't see that happening.

[klemopixx]

Until I see a team stop this Louisville offense I'm going keep pounding the Cardinals. Past stats don't mean squat on game day. I don't think Clemson looks as strong as last year.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Game breaks down simple for me. I am not going against Jackson at this time, as he totes the Rock better than any QB I have seen play. I know Clemson is a tough place for a road team to win, and it should be a tight game. Playing UL on the money.

[BetweenHerCheeks]

effing donkeys...there is no fuucking waay that the line shoukda moved almost 14 points since May....effin donkeys...TONS OF VALUE ON CLEMSON

[Easy-Rider 66]

effing donkeys...there is no fuucking waay that the line shoukda moved almost 14 points since May....effin donkeys...TONS OF VALUE ON CLEMSON

Maybe so. But it's also possible that UL was vastly underrated. If UL can avoid turnovers they will be in it to the end.

[greenhippo]

In before pant load

Too late

[astro61200]

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Maybe so. But it's also possible that UL was vastly underrated. If UL can avoid turnovers they will be in it to the end.

He was also all over Marshall spread and ML last week.. apparently they had value as well. That didn't turn out so well.

[Easy-Rider 66]

He was also all over Marshall spread and ML last week.. apparently they had value as well. That didn't turn out so well.

Interesting. Playing UL with a small wager as I can see Clemson winning no doubt.

[t-wizzle]

I took Clemson +2. The line will close much closer to a pick em.

[KRIT]

Clemson for me.

[t-wizzle]

Clemson for me.

Let's get it bro.

[Bostongambler]

On Clemson