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    Quote Originally Posted by Shafted69 View Post
    CNN: “There’s No Proof Clinton Had Anything To Do With The Claims That Obama Wasn’t Born In The United States And Thus Was Ineligible To Be President.” “As part of a partnership with FactCheck.org, CNN examines the lack of evidence to Donald Trump’s claim that Hillary Clinton started the ‘birther’ movement against Barack Obama in 2008. As FactCheck.org reported before, there’s no proof Clinton had anything to do with the claims that Obama wasn’t born in the United States and thus was ineligible to be president.” [CNN, 5/6/16]
    Factcheck.Org: “There’s No Evidence That Clinton Or Her Campaign Had Anything To Do With Bogus Claims That Obama Wasn’t Born In The United States And Thus Was Ineligible To Be President.” “Donald Trump again has repeated the false claim that Hillary Clinton ‘started’ the so-called ‘birther’ movement against Barack Obama in 2008. As we wrote last year, there’s no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with bogus claims that Obama wasn’t born in the United States and thus was ineligible to be president.” [Factcheck.org, 5/5/16]
    Politifact Found “There Is No Record That Clinton Or Anyone Within Her Campaign Ever Advanced The Charge That Obama Was Not Born In The United States.” “There is no record that Clinton herself or anyone within her campaign ever advanced the charge that Obama was not born in the United States. A review by our fellow fact-checkers at Factcheck.org reported that no journalist who investigated this ever found a connection to anyone in the Clinton organization.” [Politifact,9/23/15]
    Politifact Rated Trump’s Statement That Clinton Started The Birther Movement As False. “Trump said that Clinton started the birther movement and ‘was all in.’ It’s an interesting bit of history that the birther movement appears to have begun with Democrats supporting Clinton and opposing Obama. But Trump, and others who have made this claim, neglect to mention that there is no direct tie to Clinton or her 2008 campaign. The story appears to have started with supporters of Clinton, an important distinction. Trump goes on to completely distort the chain of events by claiming Clinton ‘was all in’ on the birther movement. Most of the talk started after Clinton suspended her presidential campaign. And the only thing she officially has ever done is deny any accusation of starting a whisper campaign. We rate this claim False.” [Politifact, 9/23/15]
    Trump lied? Stop the presses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Someone needs to ask Trump what has changed or what additional info he has learned since April 2011. After continuing to repeat his doubts about Obama's birthplace over the past 5 years, what has now changed his mind?

    your candidate since day 1 loves your desperation.




    In fact, based on those polls you love so much she desperately needs it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    depends, if you live in reality you're wrong. If you live in MSNBC-land you'd be correct.

    It is reality vs what the TV tells you is reality.


    A mexican saying we need to kick out illegals would get many people excited. If you use math you'd see many of those people are white. Math, not racism but math.
    We had a black Trump, now he's in charge of choosing Trumps VP pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Someone needs to ask Trump what has changed or what additional info he has learned since April 2011. After continuing to repeat his doubts about Obama's birthplace over the past 5 years, what has now changed his mind?
    He hasn't changed his mind, he still tweeted suspicions about Obama's birth certificate from 2012-2014. He's lying when he says he settled the issue in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    He hasn't changed his mind, he still tweeted suspicions about Obama's birth certificate from 2012-2014. He's lying when he says he settled the issue in 2011.
    Apparently he just didn't get around to reading the birth certificate until this morning. Or maybe his Hawaiian investigators just got back. We're still waiting to find out all the exciting things they learned in Hawaii.

    I think he'll go back on his statement once he loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    He hasn't changed his mind, he still tweeted suspicions about Obama's birth certificate from 2012-2014. He's lying when he says he settled the issue in 2011.
    He's lying about everything. Only " SHEEP" like brooks believe him.

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    Looks like donald caved in finally. Americans will only tolerate so much racism from thugs like trump. Now that Hillary is back on the campaign trail and already taking a major lead, he is feeling the pressure to not look like a complete idiot.

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    Trump is whatever. I just laugh at men who support a sneaky bitch like hilary.

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    CNN is the worst channel on TV. They hire race baiters like Don Lemon to push the democrat agenda and fill up the guest list full of scumbags like Van Jones, Charles Blow and other racists. How the mighty have fallen.
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    Kraken rememb when you were laughing that bitchery was -400? I see now trump is only +157 at pinnacle.

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    One thing disappointing is the very poor journalism about this story. The media is deliberately creating a false impression that Trump invented the birther movement. Obama wrote an essay promoting his bio-book in 1991 saying he was from Kenya. When it became a controversy he backpedalled and said his publisher made it up. New York book publishers apparently have no credibility and just tell lies about their authors. And reporters found several of Prez Obama's relatives in Kenya who veried the Kenya birth story. Apparently people from Kenya and New York book publishers are not able to distinguish truth from fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff41 View Post
    One thing disappointing is the very poor journalism about this story. The media is deliberately creating a false impression that Trump invented the birther movement. Obama wrote an essay promoting his bio-book in 1991 saying he was from Kenya. When it became a controversy he backpedalled and said his publisher made it up. New York book publishers apparently have no credibility and just tell lies about their authors. And reporters found several of Prez Obama's relatives in Kenya who veried the Kenya birth story. Apparently people from Kenya and New York book publishers are not able to distinguish truth from fiction.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...rs/booklet.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff41 View Post
    One thing disappointing is the very poor journalism about this story. The media is deliberately creating a false impression that Trump invented the birther movement. Obama wrote an essay promoting his bio-book in 1991 saying he was from Kenya. When it became a controversy he backpedalled and said his publisher made it up. New York book publishers apparently have no credibility and just tell lies about their authors. And reporters found several of Prez Obama's relatives in Kenya who veried the Kenya birth story. Apparently people from Kenya and New York book publishers are not able to distinguish truth from fiction.
    So you still think Obama was not born in the U.S., right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    So you still think Obama was not born in the U.S., right?
    Have no idea and it really doesn't matter anymore, I just would like to see more balanced journalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff41 View Post
    Have no idea and it really doesn't matter anymore, I just would like to see more balanced journalism
    With all due respect, if you "have no idea", you are not very bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    It took 8 years but Trump finally admitted he was an idiot.
    Way off. He finally admits he must lie in order to win now because the country needs him.

    The bottom line is that Obama is a traitor to the US because he is indeed an agent of evil who is a closet radical muslim. That's why he likes to piss on the constitution while making his final four picks. That's why he promotes BLM in secret and doesn't think its bad. That's why he supports Colin Kaepernick's protest. That's why he did nothing to contain ISIS. He was put into office by elites who used him to destabilize our country while strengthening the NWO with gay laws and police killings. He will try to suspend the election watch. Hes a sneaky little bitch. Phase 2 will be Hillary if elected, but it looks like she's gonna crash here soon.

    But its too bad and sad because Trump is still going to kick mother fukin globalist ass in the debates. Hillary is a sad servant of globalism, national cannibalism and is a communist spy. It was probably her idea to blame the Russians for hacking. wake the fuk up people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnes & Whine View Post
    wrong again. He finally admits he must lie in order to win now because the country needs him.
    I agree with you. He doesn't believe what he said today. Just pandering. He'll take it back after he loses. His fingers were crossed behind his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I agree with you. He doesn't believe what he said today. Just pandering. He'll take it back after he loses. His fingers were crossed behind his back.
    Gotta do what ya gotta do. Hillary panders like no other. He knows what he has to say to win. It's unfortunate, but time to be a politican. He got this far just by speaking his mind, but won't win without pulling out that political side. Which is just lying, and pandering. Sucks for us Trump supporters. CNN running with it, and now the Obama base that wasn't so hot on Hillary has been awoken a bit. He will still destroy her in debates, and by now most know that CNN is closer to a tabloid than actually journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    Gotta do what ya gotta do. Hillary panders like no other. He knows what he has to say to win. It's unfortunate, but time to be a politican. He got this far just by speaking his mind, but won't win without pulling out that political side. Which is just lying, and pandering. Sucks for us Trump supporters. CNN running with it, and now the Obama base that wasn't so hot on Hillary has been awoken a bit. He will still destroy her in debates, and by now most know that CNN is closer to a tabloid than actually journalism.
    I know. They employ Trump's former campaign chief and now leading shill. Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Trump is whatever. I just laugh at men who support a sneaky bitch like hilary.
    I laugh at people that follow your picks.lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff41 View Post
    One thing disappointing is the very poor journalism about this story. The media is deliberately creating a false impression that Trump invented the birther movement. Obama wrote an essay promoting his bio-book in 1991 saying he was from Kenya. When it became a controversy he backpedalled and said his publisher made it up. New York book publishers apparently have no credibility and just tell lies about their authors. And reporters found several of Prez Obama's relatives in Kenya who veried the Kenya birth story. Apparently people from Kenya and New York book publishers are not able to distinguish truth from fiction.
    HIS mother was born in usa just like cruz's mother. It is a non-starter because evidently to be president then you need one of your parents to be born here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I know. They employ Trump's former campaign chief and now leading shill. Pathetic.
    How terrible. One of the few voices allowed on CNN for Trump. They allow four on, who aren't the best at articulating, and responding. Don Lemon is the worst journalist out there. It's like a comedy show. They go to break when a point is being made that they don't like. Allow the Hillary supporters the last word, then say that's all the time we have. Lie about facts, especially Don. It's all spin, and so obvious.

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    And Van Jones is a joke. He's been a paid shill for years, but he's a well spoken black man so he must be right. His facts are never so. Same with most on both sides. It's all a joke on CNN.

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    Two lies that Trump told today
    1.) that Hilar started the birtherism movement
    2.) that he ended it

    But, the media has to stick to their prefabbed narratives

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Two lies that Trump told today
    1.) that Hilar started the birtherism movement
    2.) that he ended it

    But, the media has to stick to their prefabbed narratives
    Cut Trump some slack. Another Sept 11 just passed by.

    He lost "hundreds" of friends that day (but couldn't name even 1 when asked). Was traumatized by seeing people jump to their deaths (from 4 miles away), watched "thousands" of dancing muslims on TV in New Jersey, and helped clear rubble in the aftermath.

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    Look we need trump running the country. For the last 8yrs Obama and his limp wrist have allowed russia, north Korea, Iran and others to run all over the greatest fukin country and military the world has ever known.

    We allow mother fukin Russia to steal Crimea with nothing more than a god damn stern warning, north Korea fires missels, detonate penetrating nuclear bomb tests, and allows that cocksucka Jim Kung uhn to run his fukin mouth and talk shit about what he will do to USA ect. Iran continues to enrich it's supply of plutonium and uranium for its nuclear weapon arrsonal.

    All these 3rd world countries over there including China, known Obama will do nothing more than give a fukin stern warning speech and that's it's .

    I'd hate to think of what a ww3 would look like, but when we spend over 600 billion on our military and amass the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen, and all Obama can do is give a tongue lashing to these places is unfukin believe able. The United States plays big brother for every fukin Nato and non Nato ally over there because they can't hold there own.

    Once trump gets in he will put an end to Nato relying on on the USA for protection and get fukin Putin and Jim Kong un or however u spell that shit and set them coksuckers straight and then drop a nuke on Isis and end that penetrating shit right now.

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    Thank God Clinton such a weak candidate

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    Can't imagine what this country will look like with hillary in office, but another 8yrs of the same shit is what I expect. Sad thing is I voted for Obama the first time, but soon came to the realization it was a mistake.

    We are having to constantly flank Russian fighter jets off the coast of Alaska. They fly within 50 miles of the coast of Alaska, and all Obama allows us to do is run em off with our f22 fighters. Fuk that shit, they come within 50 miles of our coast and we blow them fuks out of the sky. Putin is a cocky penetrate and needs to be PUT IN his place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog5229 View Post
    Can't imagine what this country will look like with hillary in office, but another 8yrs of the same shit is what I expect. Sad thing is I voted for Obama the first time, but soon came to the realization it was a mistake.

    We are having to constantly flank Russian fighter jets off the coast of Alaska. They fly within 50 miles of the coast of Alaska, and all Obama allows us to do is run em off with our f22 fighters. Fuk that shit, they come within 50 miles of our coast and we blow them fuks out of the sky. Putin is a cocky penetrate and needs to be PUT IN his place.
    Do you still play with your plastic army men and burn ants with a magnifying glass?

    Wars are started on the 1st shot, not the instigating. Putin/ Iran wants us to shoot 1st.

    They are acting like little kids taunting the big kid to kick their ass.

    Don't worry, your boy will take care of that shit. We will be in WW3 in about a month after he takes office.
    Then you can dance in the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Do you still play with your plastic army men and burn ants with a magnifying glass?

    Wars are started on the 1st shot, not the instigating. Putin/ Iran wants us to shoot 1st.

    They are acting like little kids taunting the big kid to kick their ass.

    Don't worry, your boy will take care of that shit. We will be in WW3 in about a month after he takes office.
    Then you can dance in the streets.
    underdog and barnes and w don't think like this, its fox news hindsight 20/20 for them all day

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    no one's business. No law says he needs to. I hope not releasing them infuriates liberals into drinking bleach.
    ^^^This

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    With all due respect, if you "have no idea", you are not very bright.
    coming from the idiot who can't do the math of 5 x 1 correctly.


    d2 you're not going to fool anyone. Plus, everyone knows I have plenty more examples of how dumb you are. Shall we go over them again?

    We can also touch on the times that show what a typical pathetic liberal you are, willing to lie about anything to try and prove an illogical point. Like when you used a made up definition on urban dictionary thinking no one was going to actually look it up. You didn't know me back then... lol scumbag

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    We have 50 days until the most important election of our generation.

    Didn't we hear this during the last presidential election? It's ALWAYS "the most important election of our lifetimes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Maybe he does, but who knows what Trump is really thinking, I'm not sure anyone including Trump knows.

    First Hilary is a close friend and great woman, then Obama was 100% not born in America, then it's lets build a wall, then its no muslims allowed

    Now it's Hilary is the enemy and the devil, Obama was actually born in Hawaii, no wall, and muslims will be allowed

    The thing is, people that are going to vote for Trump don't care what he says, they just don't. Donald said it right early in his campaign "I could shoot somebody and people would still vote for me"

    There is no integrity in politics on either side, nothing new.

    Most likely our next president will either be Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton, and my life won't change one bit.

    But my daughters might, therefore I will vote for Hilary, not because I like Hilary, but I would most likely prefer her SCOTUS nominee over Trumps.

    Fukk, I'd be happy with Garland, he's a moderate, but apparently they're out of style right now. Gotta be a polar maniac to rile up the masses.
    The United States is made up of a majority of Moderates, but we will always get what the Freaks toward the ends of the spectrum want. That is a freakshow, which is what this election has become. I barely hear news reports showing the candidates actually articulating plans to make our country a better place. In fact, I rarely hear any politician speak of them. All I hear are a bunch of people constantly badmouthing each other. It is childish, and I have mostly tuned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Do you still play with your plastic army men and burn ants with a magnifying glass?

    Wars are started on the 1st shot, not the instigating. Putin/ Iran wants us to shoot 1st.

    They are acting like little kids taunting the big kid to kick their ass.

    Don't worry, your boy will take care of that shit. We will be in WW3 in about a month after he takes office.
    Then you can dance in the streets.
    With the limp wristed democrats in office, it would take nothing short of another fukin pearl harbor to get them to dip that pen in ink an sign a declaration of war. I'm tired of this puss footing around bs. If Putin/iran had the fear of God put in them, this type of sht wouldn't happen. Putin is stuck in the Soviet Union days, an if necessary Trump can nuke him into the 21st century.

    I'm not for war, especially a war half way around the world in a 3rd world country, but we are no longer respected around the world like we should be because of Obama. Things change in 2017, and if our allies don't start pulling there weight militarily then fuk em there on there own

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