1. 07-25-16 02:36 PM #36
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    Cubs blowing their load, it will be a punch to the nuts when they come away with just another playoff appearance
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  2. 07-25-16 02:52 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Cubs blowing their load, it will be a punch to the nuts when they come away with just another playoff appearance
    Torres is a nice prospect, but the guy is in single-A ball, the Cubs have excess young middle infield talent and the Cubs seem to be able to produce an endless supply of positional talent. McKinney came from the A's and has slid in prospect rankings this year. The rest is surplus. It's a nice get for the Yanks, but this is not the Cubs blowing their load by any means. They may still trade more pieces in the next week for more help.
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  3. 07-25-16 03:16 PM #38
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    odds never changed after move

    Vegas does not think much of it
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  4. 07-25-16 03:22 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    odds never changed after move

    Vegas does not think much of it
    Deal just gone done an hour ago. You checked the odds within the last hour? What odds are you quoting? Already the favorite, so it's hard to change much. Plus, some sort of deals were expected. Cubs odds are incrementally better due to the move. Perhaps they go from 30% to 33% chance. For a favorite, no single move can change odds more than a few percentage points.
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  5. 07-25-16 03:40 PM #40
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    Reds are the biggest chumps in the world for what they got for him.
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  6. 07-25-16 04:00 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    odds never changed after move

    Vegas does not think much of it
    Because this move won't make public that aren't already on the Cubs put money on them. Plus the line is already shaded because how much the public loves the Cubs. Odds won't move on them until playoffs. This is a big move helping the shaky bullpen.
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  7. 07-25-16 05:53 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    When Cubs do not win World Series, they will feel even worse when Chapman re-signs with Yankees after this season.
    Fixed.
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  8. 07-25-16 05:57 PM #43
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    Cashman is the man if yanks ever get rid of this guy they are clueless
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  9. 07-25-16 05:58 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRMAN23 View Post
    Cashman is the man if yanks ever get rid of this guy they are clueless
    Chapman said yesterday he'd love to re-sign with the Yanks after this season.
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  10. 07-25-16 05:58 PM #45
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    plot twist, cubs wont win the WS.
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  11. 07-25-16 06:08 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Fixed.
    I was trying to be semi-diplomatic.
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  12. 07-25-16 06:11 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I was trying to be semi-diplomatic.
    Cubs might win the World Series, though obtaining Chapman doesn't do anything about their all-or-nothing approach at the plate.

    Chapman will not be a Cubs uniform for longer than three months. So I hope this is worth it, because as Archie pointed out earlier in the thread, they basically haven't blown a lead from the 7th inning on all year. Not sure how this makes them "better."
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  13. 07-25-16 06:38 PM #48
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    Yankees long term plan. Trade Chapman for as many prospects as possible (check); only lose Chapman for half a season, then resign him at the end of the year for big bucks. Genius!
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  14. 07-25-16 06:40 PM #49
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    Yanks slowly rebuilding. Will be a force in 4 years.
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  15. 07-25-16 06:42 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yanks slowly rebuilding. Will be a force in 4 years.
    Of course they will....Already have a bunch of top 50-100 prospects and will add more I'm sure in the next week

    Then they will poach a few big name stars in free agency over the next few seasons and hopefully cap it off with Bryce Harper

    They clear out a ton of overpaid bums this offseason
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  16. 07-25-16 06:44 PM #51
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    Yup. I enjoyed the good days and while the yanks rebuild I just pretend baseball doesn't exist.
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  17. 07-25-16 06:45 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Aroldis Chapman is now a Cub, with the #Cubs sending Torres, McKinney, Warren and one more player to #Yankees, per @JonHeyman
    Called it over a month ago. Salud!
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  18. 07-25-16 07:08 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yanks slowly rebuilding. Will be a force in 4 years.
    yep. And 4 big contract dumps will happen at the end of this year (Sabathia $25mil/year, Teixeira $23mil/year, Beltran $15mil/year) and next year (Arod $20mil/year).
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  19. 07-25-16 07:11 PM #54
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    Great move by the Yankees.

    They give him away for a couple of months, get a surplus of players, and re-sign Chapman next season.

    Brian Cashman knows what's up.
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  20. 07-25-16 07:23 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    Yankees long term plan. Trade Chapman for as many prospects as possible (check); only lose Chapman for half a season, then resign him at the end of the year for big bucks. Genius!
    They learned it from the Cubs.

    It's all about timing. Cubs are chasing history. They can't leave cards on the table. And they're already set up for sustained success. This doesn't alter that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    They learned it from the Cubs.

    It's all about timing. Cubs are chasing history. They can't leave cards on the table. And they're already set up for sustained success. This doesn't alter that at all.
    Do you look forward to your favorite team winning an historic World Series, as the last pitch of the game is made by a guy that uses guns in a violent manner towards women, and then a few days later voting for your anti-gun movement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Do you look forward to your favorite team winning an historic World Series, as the last pitch of the game is made by a guy that uses guns in a violent manner towards women, and then a few days later voting for your anti-gun movement?
    Guy made a mistake and served his penalty. He didn't kill anybody and he's worked to make it right. I'm for second chances. Lots of athletes are not choirboys. Goes with the territory.
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  23. 07-25-16 07:41 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Guy made a mistake and served his penalty. He didn't kill anybody and he's worked to make it right. I'm for second chances. Lots of athletes are not choirboys. Goes with the territory.
    Yeah, I'm sure it was an isolated incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure it was an isolated incident.

    Well if it happened tomorrow, I'd be for cutting him. But like I said, I'm for second chances after consequences.
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  25. 07-25-16 08:48 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Great move by the Yankees.

    They give him away for a couple of months, get a surplus of players, and re-sign Chapman next season.

    Brian Cashman knows what's up.
    They Learned it from the Pirates , when the Pirates kept fleecing them in trades
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  26. 07-25-16 09:12 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    They Learned it from the Pirates , when the Pirates kept fleecing them in trades
    This.
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  27. 07-25-16 09:14 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRMAN23 View Post
    Cashman is the man if yanks ever get rid of this guy they are clueless
    What has Cashman won for the Yankees?
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  28. 07-25-16 10:27 PM #63
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    The Yankees have the best bullpen in baseball in the most underrated team in baseball right now
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  29. 07-25-16 10:29 PM #64
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    Id have a hard time trading a 106 mph fireballer like him.
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  30. 07-25-16 11:33 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    What has Cashman won for the Yankees?
    Clueless paver.
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  31. 07-26-16 12:36 AM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    What has Cashman won for the Yankees?
    I hope this was a joke question or you just don't know your history
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    Its a boomerang trade
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  33. 07-26-16 02:47 AM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    The Yankees have the best bullpen in baseball in the most underrated team in baseball right now
    Yankees suck
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  34. 07-26-16 04:30 PM #69
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    Chapman said he was sleepy during a phone interview with Theo and Tom Ricketts and this could not recall what they talked about or what their expectations were of him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Chapman said he was sleepy during a phone interview with Theo and Tom Ricketts and this could not recall what they talked about or what their expectations were of him!

    Who cares. He's paid to throw 100mph+ and get hitters out. Not to talk.
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