[MonkeyF0cker]

Without Hiroshima,the War would have kept going for years. The Japs weren't going to surrender until someone made them.

Anybody that had a granddad that fought would tell you.

So, it is justified to kill innocent civilians? Pearl Harbor was an attack on the military. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were attacks on civilians with radioactive half-life that caused diseases and genetic defects for hundreds of thousands in the aftermath. If it's alright in your book to kill civilians, then you shouldn't have any problem with what terrorists do.

The war in Europe had ended months before the nukes were dropped in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. The Germans had already surrendered. The idea that the nukes saved any lives at all is complete propagandist bullshit.

[packerd_00]

So, it is justified to kill innocent civilians? Pearl Harbor was an attack on the military. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were attacks on civilians with radioactive half-life that caused diseases and genetic defects for hundreds of thousands in the aftermath. If it's alright in your book to kill civilians, then you shouldn't have any problem with what terrorists do.

The war in Europe had ended months before the nukes were dropped in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. The Germans had already surrendered. The idea that the nukes saved any lives at all is complete propagandist bullshit.

Damn right it is,youve obviously been brain washed to think those were all innocents. But regardless how are you going to mention the Nazis surrendering as a reason to leave the Japs alone,the Allies were still in a brutal War with those guys.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Damn right it is,youve obviously been brain washed to think those were all innocents. But regardless how are you going to mention the Nazis surrendering as a reason to leave the Japs alone,the Allies were still in a brutal War with those guys.

Oh, sure. Let's go with your logic... Haven't you obviously been brainwashed to think everyone killed in the WTC on 9/11 was innocent then? Durrr.

Brainwashed dumbfuk hypocritical monkey.

[packerd_00]

Oh, sure. Let's go with your logic... Haven't you obviously been brainwashed to think everyone killed in the WTC on 9/11 was innocent then? Durrr.

Brainwashed dumbfuk hypocritical monkey.

You don't know what I think about 911,so just keep your mouth shut alright dip shit.

[The Kraken]

Damn right it is,youve obviously been brain washed to think those were all innocents. But regardless how are you going to mention the Nazis surrendering as a reason to leave the Japs alone,the Allies were still in a brutal War with those guys.

It's never justified to kill innocent civilians, EVER.

I can't even believe you would think this.

It doesn't even make sense.

[packerd_00]

It's never justified to kill innocent civilians, EVER.

I can't even believe you would think this.

It doesn't even make sense.

Kraken ask the Chinese what they thought of Hiroshama. WW2 was a horrible time,do you think Japan or Germany gave a rats ass about innocent lives,f@ck no.

[The Kraken]

No but that doesn't mean we can't give a rats ass about innocent lives

We've been in many wars since WW2 and have not dropped another nuke, so I'd like to think that as a nation we realized we were wrong and chose to never let that happen again

Maybe war is inevitable, but dropping nukes doesn't have to be apart of it

[packerd_00]

Lets be real,innocence was lost for Japan after Nanking. One day this shit may happen again,back then men were drafted we are lucky to still have a choice not to fight,.

[Dr.Gonzo]

So, it is justified to kill innocent civilians? Pearl Harbor was an attack on the military. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were attacks on civilians with radioactive half-life that caused diseases and genetic defects for hundreds of thousands in the aftermath. If it's alright in your book to kill civilians, then you shouldn't have any problem with what terrorists do.

The war in Europe had ended months before the nukes were dropped in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. The Germans had already surrendered. The idea that the nukes saved any lives at all is complete propagandist bullshit.

I'll await your condemnation of the bombing of Dresden.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Lets be real,innocence was lost for Japan after Nanking. One day this shit may happen again,back then men were drafted we are lucky to still have a choice not to fight,.

Innocence was so much lost in Nanking that the United States did absolutely nothing in response to it. But nice excuse.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I'll await your condemnation of the bombing of Dresden.

I'll let Winston Churchill do it instead...

It seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing of German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed. Otherwise we shall come into control of an utterly ruined land. The destruction of Dresden remains a serious query against the conduct of Allied bombing.

--Winston Churchill (memo to Chiefs of Staff, 28th March 1945)

[Booya711]

/Thread

No words needed

[packerd_00]

Innocence was so much lost in Nanking that the United States did absolutely nothing in response to it. But nice excuse.

That wasn't my point,they weren't innocent was what I said,whether or not the States got involved has nothing to do with it. Japan brought all of this on themselves bottom line.

[daneblazer]

There were no rules in WWII. The allies had lost over 40 million civilians vs 4-5 million Axis. There were over 70 million dead total on both sides. That's Million. I don't think they were really debating the loss of 100,000 more civilians if it stopped the carnage where it was.

[packerd_00]

I'll await your condemnation of the bombing of Dresden.

The Germans bombed London and Birmingham first, people like to forget that. What the hell are you bringing them into it for,they got attacked and responded in kind.

[MonkeyF0cker]

There were no rules in WWII. The allies had lost over 40 million civilians vs 4-5 million Axis. There were over 70 million dead total on both sides. That's Million. I don't think they were really debating the loss of 100,000 more civilians if it stopped the carnage where it was.

But now there are rules? Who sets the rules?

[MonkeyF0cker]

That wasn't my point,they weren't innocent was what I said,whether or not the States got involved has nothing to do with it. Japan brought all of this on themselves bottom line.

And that's the exact same line of logic Islamic radicals use against us.

It's insane that you can't make that connection.

[rkelly110]

/Thread

No words needed

Never apologized, showing respect.....yes.

[daneblazer]

But now there are rules? Who sets the rules?

Figure of speech. Germany & Japan were racing to develop the weapon too. Germany already had ballistic missles, but by the time they were fully functional, it was too late. The US beat them to it. If they don't drop it, they'll have a bomb dropped on them. It'd be nice to come together and settle our differences over a flat white at Starbucks, but Germany & Japan were a little too involved with world domination & genocide to head to the negotiating table. Only obliteration was going to make them surrender. That's what it took.

I mean fukk, how are we even talking about this

[daneblazer]

whats funny about this shirt is that the US basically let Russia & Britain take the brunt of the war in Europe for several years, then they came in like Mariano Rivera, closed it, and got the credit

[packerd_00]

whats funny about this shirt is that the US basically let Russia & Britain take the brunt of the war in Europe for several years, then they came in like Mariano Rivera, closed it, and got the credit

Excatly,people that wear those shirts just look like complete jack asses.

[KVB]

But now there are rules? Who sets the rules?

Geneva Conventions and the treaties that resulted. I think this only applies to recognized States.

[EmpireMaker]

Excuse me but what's stopping the US from destroying its nuclear weapons? You call for a nuclear-free world..you destroy yours first since you were the only country in the world to ever use them.

Trump needs to grasp into this and attack Obama's foreign policies.

Trump is going to destroy Hillary when she tries to ride Obama's coattails ( Iran, Cuba, Vietnam, Nuke Free, Japan ... WTF). The M Fer has lost his damn mind (and I voted for him twice).

[jtoler]

No more wars.

[Booya711]

Crazy thing is that black folks will always back people just because they are the same color...why??

Bill Cosby, OJ...makes no fukking sense

[pavyracer]

Crazy thing is that black folks will always back people just because they are the same color...why??

Bill Cosby, OJ...makes no fukking sense

Same reason white folks vote for Trump.

[Booya711]

Same reason white folks vote for Trump.

Get your head out of the sand pavy....not all white people back trump but all blacks back for the dumbfukks like Michael brown and shit

[packerd_00]

Same reason white folks vote for Trump.

A lot of White people hate Trump.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Geneva Conventions and the treaties that resulted. I think this only applies to recognized States.

Exactly. Do as I say, not as I do.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Figure of speech. Germany & Japan were racing to develop the weapon too. Germany already had ballistic missles, but by the time they were fully functional, it was too late. The US beat them to it. If they don't drop it, they'll have a bomb dropped on them. It'd be nice to come together and settle our differences over a flat white at Starbucks, but Germany & Japan were a little too involved with world domination & genocide to head to the negotiating table. Only obliteration was going to make them surrender. That's what it took.

I mean fukk, how are we even talking about this

As I said earlier, Germany was already defeated when we dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'll say it again since it appears it needs repeating... The war in Europe was over months before that. Germany had already surrendered.

[Dr.Gonzo]

The Germans bombed London and Birmingham first, people like to forget that. What the hell are you bringing them into it for,they got attacked and responded in kind.

Cosmopolitan leftists have a tendency to overlook war atrocities committed against the Germans, during and post war.

They perpetuate this myth of a good war and use it to justify interventionism, the anti-war left is actually very scarce. This is demonstrated by the anti-war protests during the Bush years supporting Bush policy simply because Obama was its new face.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Crazy thing is that black folks will always back people just because they are the same color...why??

Bill Cosby, OJ...makes no fukking sense

The left is comprised of non-white ethnic nationalists and their cuckolded white allies.

[jtoler]

Cosmopolitan leftists have a tendency to overlook war atrocities committed against the Germans, during and post war.

They perpetuate this myth of a good war and use it to justify interventionism, the anti-war left is actually very scarce. This is demonstrated by the anti-war protests during the Bush years supporting Bush policy simply because Obama was its new face.

Sounds like hogwash.

[jtoler]

The left is comprised of non-white ethnic nationalists and their cuckolded white allies.

Sounds like more hogwash.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Sounds like hogwash.

How can you be an anti-war libertarian and not agree with said point?

It's a consensus.