1. 01-25-16 11:18 PM #1
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    Early heavy public action the Panthers so far

    So no one heed my warnings in the last game and they will probably do again in this Superbowl.

    I use two different sources to corroborate if my public action numbers are accurate. So far these numbers looks identical to the Broncos action in Superbowl 48, and every one knows what happened in that game. I'll give another update on Friday to see if the line moved much. So far all the money is on the Panthers which is in high 70's.


    In the Patriots game the public action eventually dropped down to a low 70's and you know the rest.
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  2. 01-25-16 11:30 PM #2
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    They won't get even action regardless of the line. They make up for it in the long run.
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  3. 01-26-16 12:44 AM #3
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    Panthers will win by 21
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  4. 01-26-16 12:49 AM #4
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    i haven't figured out if I want to take the points or just play the broncos on the money line..
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  5. 01-26-16 02:36 AM #5
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    Ask yourself.. How will the Broncos score?
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  6. 01-26-16 03:25 AM #6
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    Either we can fade the public by betting the Broncos.
    Or bet on a Panthers team that is very similar to the Seahawks that defeated the Broncos at the previous super bowl. Panthers have a mobile quarterback with a solid defense just like the Seahawks.
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  7. 01-26-16 04:15 AM #7
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    #1 defense Broncos vs #1 offense panthers . Defense wins championships. No brainer
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  8. 01-26-16 04:21 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmarinouofm View Post
    i haven't figured out if I want to take the points or just play the broncos on the money line..
    Save your money. Denver is going to get throttled.

    Panthers actually have a running game so Denver can't just line up to pass rush. Bay Area has potential to be windy and at this point in his career my 15 year old nephew throws a better pass than Corky Manning.
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  9. 01-26-16 05:16 AM #9
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    Books absolutely loved the fact of Carolina running up the score on Arizona. This is all a setup guys and gals.
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  10. 01-26-16 06:18 AM #10
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    If you haven't seen, Cam is the shyt!!!! The networks are up on his diock!! Cam, Cam, Cam wow look at the great Cam. Smile Cam-awww that is so cute Cam!! The networks set you suckers up for failure everytime and you are too dumb to figure it out. Broncos win....Kids! Been here, done this, seen this happen in years past. But, go ahead you green shytn focks, bet the Panters. Move the line up. Thanks!!
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  11. 01-26-16 06:48 AM #11
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    The spread hasn't yet changed at betonline.ag but the money line on Carolina shrank from -197 to -210.
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  12. 01-26-16 07:33 AM #12
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    Cam is due for a sh#$ game.
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  13. 01-26-16 08:39 AM #13
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    Tough gm to decide but we know one end loses and know how the aftermath will play out for gamblers most certainly.

    Denver's wins = its Carolina backers saying fml Vegas never loses these and shits rigged, Donkos got all calls, Peyton looked unusually good must have hgh, and Cam choked.

    Carolina wins = Denver backers saying fml I feel like an idiot backing dead arm Manning I knew right side far as "capping" a gm and it was a mismatch for Denver but sided with the house.
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  14. 01-26-16 08:56 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aye J Mac View Post
    #1 defense Broncos vs #1 offense panthers . Defense wins championships. No brainer
    problem with this ridiculous theory is that the Panthers also have a good defense close to Number 1
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  15. 01-26-16 09:03 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Cam is due for a sh#$ game.
    Wow. Great analysis here. By this logic, he's been due for the past 18 games. Dumbass.
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  16. 01-26-16 09:06 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Wow. Great analysis here. By this logic, he's been due for the past 18 games. Dumbass.
    omfg rotflmfao what a putzy putz the crew me and the x-caluber casino gang will have a play stay tuned
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  17. 01-26-16 10:49 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aye J Mac View Post
    #1 defense Broncos vs #1 offense panthers . Defense wins championships. No brainer
    You know the Panthers defense is good too. They are ranked 6th overall, number 1 in takeaways. They also have the number 1 offense and are balanced, unlike denver's first two playoff opponents who just aired it out on every play. I think this is a relatively easy victory for Carolina.
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  18. 01-26-16 11:03 AM #18
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    Panthers defense actually are in a better spot. Splitting hairs on who's really all that much better but probably slight edge to Denver. The Panthers defense is fast , aggressive , and ball hawking, much less to worry about with Peyton than Denver has to game plan for Cam. Seen several guys post or say "defense" wins championships yeah we all know that but pretty irrelevant argument here since both SB caliber and top notch.
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  19. 01-26-16 11:23 AM #19
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    Panthers defense are overrated like the Cardinals and the Chiefs D. They beat a Bunch of scrub Nfc south teams all year to inflate those numbers. The Panthers demolished an overrated Cardinals team that went into the playoffs cold with a AB that wasn't ready for the big stage.

    The Broncos D should be able to stack the line. The Carolina receiving Corp will be the easiest set of receivers the Broncos faced all year. The Broncos should be able to play one on one all day.
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  20. 01-26-16 11:30 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnes & Whine View Post
    Books absolutely loved the fact of Carolina running up the score on Arizona. This is all a setup guys and gals.
    With a relatively normal win, say 5-10 pts, the line was set to open at Car -3. Thanks to the barrage of late scores, the books bumped it to -3.5 and the pub jumped on it, pushing it to current #. If you like Denver enjoy the bonus points!
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  21. 01-26-16 11:34 AM #21
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    The Moneyline will come down on the Panthers by game time
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  22. 01-26-16 11:57 AM #22
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    Peyton in all these TV commercials how dumb would it look if he lost the super bowl
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  23. 01-26-16 12:02 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    Save your money. Denver is going to get throttled.

    Panthers actually have a running game so Denver can't just line up to pass rush. Bay Area has potential to be windy and at this point in his career my 15 year old nephew throws a better pass than Corky Manning.
    Clear and 8. No winds. Stewart will run on denver.
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  24. 01-26-16 12:32 PM #24
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    Carolina has dominated two of the best teams in the league. They did something to Seattle that we have not seen. They absolutely CRUSHED the Cards, no way to hide it.

    Carolina is the best offense in the league at 31 pts/game. Den at 22.2

    Carolina defense 19.3 vs Denver defense 18.5
    7.5 pt favorite based on those stats alone

    I think Manning will leave this game on a stretcher.
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  25. 01-26-16 12:50 PM #25
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    Yeah Rich boy I'm probably taking Denver here but main issues obviously are Manning and his o-line. He must move chains decent throughout the gm protect ball. If Denver gets down 2/3 scores it's over most likely without some very luck breaks or zebras going above and beyond to reel it in. That Panther D very good on all 3 levels, have extraordinary playmakers , can disrupt pocket well. Nobody should be underselling this Panther D here at all.
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  26. 01-26-16 01:01 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankees10 View Post
    Peyton in all these TV commercials how dumb would it look if he lost the super bowl
    That didn't stop him in SB48

    And for anyone claiming the Denver D is sooo much better than Carolina. These squads are evenly matched so it should come down to offense and special teams, which the Panthers happen to be ranked 1st in both. My only worry is that when it looks this easy it never is
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  27. 01-26-16 01:10 PM #27
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    Frost wants you to believe Carolina defense faced nobody while Denver played a murderers row of Qb's ABSOLUTELY FALSE! Yeah they A Smith twice , Carr twice , Rivers twice with an absolutely obliterated o -line, receiving core all season, Stafford , Bridgewater, on and on.

    Pretty avg opponents overall faced Ben twice 1st time Antonio absolutely lit them up, 2nd gm no Brown but Pitt offense still averaged almost 9 per completion with Ben high completion% , and bout 340 yards. Amazing last Sunday vs Brady hats off their but gonna need more of that vs Cam. Denver D is beast and very talented but let's not pretend they had tougher schedule overall with offenses they faced.
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  28. 01-26-16 01:20 PM #28
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    all denver has to do is protect the ball and they win. You have to assume Cam will give them at least one turnover.
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  29. 01-26-16 01:23 PM #29
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    Agree Brooks and that's what's scary lol But more importantly WIN the turnover battle!
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  30. 01-26-16 01:28 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    all denver has to do is protect the ball and they win. You have to assume Cam will give them at least one turnover.



    Rk Tm Turnovers, Fumble Recovery, Int, TO%
    4 Denver Broncos 27 13 14 11.9
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  31. 01-26-16 03:58 PM #31
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    Denver will slow the game down and chew up the clock. The difference maker will be Cam's ability to run the ball at any given time. Peyton will handle that aggressive Panther defense with a lot of screens and draw plays and try to make it a game of field position. Same way they played against the Patriots. But Cam has the knack to get those first downs when most needed, especially in the red zone. If you can get Carolina at -4 then you better grab it now, the public will drive this up to -6 at game time. BTW I hate that dancing fool Cam Newton but that doesn't influence when I bet. Can't see Denver scoring more than 17 in this game and its not going to cut it in the Super Bowl
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  32. 01-26-16 06:13 PM #32
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    Denver will score at least 21.
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  33. 01-27-16 12:30 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigh2001 View Post
    You know the Panthers defense is good too. They are ranked 6th overall, number 1 in takeaways. They also have the number 1 offense and are balanced, unlike denver's first two playoff opponents who just aired it out on every play. I think this is a relatively easy victory for Carolina.
    Panthers are NOT #1 in offense (only in the post season)! Please get your stats right. They are #11 overall offense, #24 in passing (pretty bad and lucky with whom they have played) and #2 in rush. We'll see how this 24th ranked passing offense plays against the #1 ranked passing defense. This is a very important stat for this game!

    Denver is #1 regular season total defense.
    Denver is #1 regular season passing.
    Denver is #3 regular season rushing.

    Cam is going to have problems passing and get very frustrated. As long as Denver comes to play (which they will), and be prepared (they are after their pathetic experience in the last visit to the super bowl) and plays a good clean game, I think Denver wins this game. They have a true leader and hall of fame quarterback, Manning. I am not worried about this team being nervous this time around. Carolina is the one in trouble and could get a "case of nerves". Cam will make mistakes in this game. Bank on it! Not to say Carolina won't get some defensive stops. Just not enough. They have a VERY overrated offense, good defense and have really only been tested playing good, quality teams a few times this season. Their luck and their defense has got them here.

    Good luck with that "relatively easy" win. Vegas is not on your side (this is also telling). When the side looks so easy, beware. Along with a HUGE Carolina ML bet at William-Hill, I'm feeling pretty confident about vegas winning this one, with Denver covering and winning the super bowl that Manning deserves after his long career. Good luck!
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  34. 01-27-16 12:40 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpAngles View Post
    That didn't stop him in SB48

    And for anyone claiming the Denver D is sooo much better than Carolina. These squads are evenly matched so it should come down to offense and special teams, which the Panthers happen to be ranked 1st in both. My only worry is that when it looks this easy it never is
    You, too!?!? Why are you all looking at post season only? See above post. Carolina's offense is overrated and not ranked #1 in the regular season.
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  35. 01-27-16 01:34 AM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    Yeah Rich boy I'm probably taking Denver here but main issues obviously are Manning and his o-line. He must move chains decent throughout the gm protect ball. If Denver gets down 2/3 scores it's over most likely without some very luck breaks or zebras going above and beyond to reel it in. That Panther D very good on all 3 levels, have extraordinary playmakers , can disrupt pocket well. Nobody should be underselling this Panther D here at all.
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