[BigDofBA]

I do too -- who wouldn't -- but I'm not about to pretend I've won any sort of battle by getting it. It's not that simple.

I get what you're saying. Even if I beat the closer it's not like it makes me feel any better about my play. Likewise, I don't minding fading line moves.

[RavensFan2k3]

Hope you cats hopped on some of that Pitt +5 and under 56 early.

Closed at +3 and 51.5.

Final: Navy 44, Pitt 28.

Just let it go man

[t-wizzle]

I take it you haven't bothered looking in my NFL, CBB or NBA threads over the last few months, eh?

I have no idea how you're doing right now. If you're doing well good for you. I find it curious that you'd try and turn this conversation into a pissing contest, especially when I don't even post that many of my plays here. I remember your NBA and college basketball plays being an unmitigated disaster last year but if you're doing better this year then I'm happy for you.

[ramones951]

Hope you cats hopped on some of that Pitt +5 and under 56 early.

Closed at +3 and 51.5.

Final: Navy 44, Pitt 28.

I can't think of a better way to make yourself look foolish than to use one game's outcome as an attempt to support your argument

[t-wizzle]

I can't think of a better way to make yourself look foolish than to use one game's outcome as an attempt to support your argument

It's ridiculous. He's going off the rails here.

Sanity needs to be restored to this thread.

[No coincidences]

I can't think of a better way to make yourself look foolish than to use one game's outcome as an attempt to support your argument

Well, I'm up to 4 examples now in the last few days.

I'd be glad to continue if you'd like.

[No coincidences]

I have no idea how you're doing right now. If you're doing well good for you. I find it curious that you'd try and turn this conversation into a pissing contest, especially when I don't even post that many of my plays here. I remember your NBA and college basketball plays being an unmitigated disaster last year but if you're doing better this year then I'm happy for you.

So last year, when I struggled mightily, you knew it was an "unmitigated disaster."

Now you magically have no idea. I'm sure you haven't even checked my threads once in the last 4 months. Yeah, OK.

Maybe you should. It might help.

[t-wizzle]

So last year, when I struggled mightily, you knew it was an "unmitigated disaster."

Now you magically have no idea. I'm sure you haven't even checked my threads once in the last 4 months. Yeah, OK.

Maybe you should. It might help.

I checked in to one of your threads a few weeks back. I want to say it was NBA. You were up so I said nice job.

Other than that no. No idea on mlb, ncaaf, nfl, ncaab. Like I said, if you're up, I'm happy for you.

That said, don't try and turn this into some sort of pissing contest. I've seen enough of your capping over the last 5 or 6 years to know you're not that good at this thing.

[No coincidences]

I've seen enough of your capping over the last 5 or 6 years to know you're not that good at this thing.

I'm comfortably in the black on posted plays here over the course of my threads at SBR. You and I both know that (even if you pretend not to). But whatever makes you feel better. Of course you don't want to turn this into a "pissing contest" -- your plays speak for themselves.

[t-wizzle]

I'm comfortably in the black on posted plays here over the course of my threads at SBR. You and I both know that (even if you pretend not to). But whatever makes you feel better. Of course you don't want to turn this into a "pissing contest" -- your plays speak for themselves.

Lol yea. Sure you are.

My plays do speak for themselves. I post NBA plays every year and have come out on top every year but one.

[No coincidences]

Lol yea. Sure you are.

Feel free to prove me wrong. Every play is in the archives if you're so confident.

My plays do speak for themselves. I post NBA plays every year and have come out on top every year but one.

And the other sports? Or the threads where you aren't tracking your plays (which is almost everywhere these days)?

[t-wizzle]

Feel free to prove me wrong. Every play is in the archives if you're so confident.



And the other sports? Or the threads where you aren't tracking your plays (which is almost everywhere these days)?

Things were so bad for you last year you conveniently stopped tracking. When I called you out for it you threw a hissy fit.


As for my other plays, I don't post that many. I posted Pitt today and lost. I had Lions last Monday and won (for much more). Every now and then I post a play. Some win, some lose. Same can be said for all of us.

[No coincidences]

Here, I'll get you started:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...plays-p10.html

+74.21U NFL (current)

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...plays-p15.html

+30.21U NBA (current)

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-hoops-p5.html

+10.87 CBB (current)

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...plays-p62.html

-35.77U MLB in 2015

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...picks-p26.html

-6.46U NFL in 2014-15

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...picks-p42.html

-105.27U NBA in 2014-15

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...plays-p50.html

-133.11U NCAAB in 2014-15

2014 NCAA football plays

-6.51 in 2014-15 college football.

2014 MLB thread with friends

+111.93 in 2014 MLB.

2013-14 NBA picks

+66.24U in 2013-14 NBA.

2013-14 NFL picks

+81.8U in 2013-14 NFL.

2013 NCAA Football thread

-17.55U in 2013-14 college football.

2013-14 NCAA Hoops thread

-8.79U in 2013-14 NCAA hoops.

2013 MLB thread

+93.6U in 2013 MLB.

2012-13 NCAA hoop picks

-25.66U in 2012-13 NCAA hoops.

2012-13 NBA Picks

+1.5U in 2012-13 NBA.

2012-13 NFL picks

+28.73U in 2012-13 NFL.

2012 NCAA picks

+10.03U in 2012-13 NCAA football.

That's +170U aggregate since 2012.

Want me to keep going?

[t-wizzle]

I don't have time to audit that sorry.

[No coincidences]

I don't have time to audit that sorry.

[t-wizzle]

You laugh but you go weeks and weeks without updating records when you go on cold runs.

What are you trying to prove here anyway?

[WalkingLuckCharm]

More horseshit that experts try selling us gamblers on a regular basis -- especially in the college game.

I only cap nba. And I've seen the line drop close to the .5 heaps of times. Over and over I've seen the total hit that .5. Horseshit? Err....

[No coincidences]

You laugh but you go weeks and weeks without updating records when you go on cold runs.

Do you honestly believe that someone -- anyone -- wouldn't have called me on that by now if I wasn't being honest about my records? I have literally dozens of people posting in my threads on a regular basis and tens of thousands of views. But yeah, I'm fudging.

What are you trying to prove here anyway?

You wrong again? It doesn't take much.

[No coincidences]

I only cap nba. And I've seen the line drop close to the .5 heaps of times. Over and over I've seen the total hit that .5. Horseshit? Err....

I will readily admit that the NBA and NFL are very "sharp" (if that's the word you so choose) with their lines.

The college game isn't even close.

[WalkingLuckCharm]

You just get too emotional ain't good for the game. Clouds your thoughts. Still think you're one of the better sharper cappers but you tilt too much.

It's not that hard to understand. If you beat the closer, you're on the public side.

[WalkingLuckCharm]

And you waste too much time talking to dipshits on sbr. You'd be a terrible poker player rofl

[t-wizzle]

I will readily admit that the NBA and NFL are very "sharp" (if that's the word you so choose) with their lines.

The college game isn't even close.

So you readily admit the NBA and NFL are sharp and don't think getting good numbers matters.

You need to have your head examined.

[No coincidences]

So you readily admit the NBA and NFL are sharp and don't think getting good numbers matters.

Getting a "sharp" number is completely and utterly irrelevant if you can't pick winners. For every example you can find of an NFL or NBA number coming down to the final play, there are hundreds of examples where it doesn't.

You can be the biggest number-crunching data-driven nerd in the world, but if you don't know how to spot a winner, you won't win in this game. Just like the same can be said of the dumb ex-jock who takes every "obvious" public play under the sun without doing his homework.

Of course I'd like to have the best number available. But the idea that it is somehow directly connected to winning is a false premise, unless you are betting the entire board in every sport.

Being able to spot a winner trumps any and everything. It's literally all that matters.

[GT21Megatron]

So you readily admit the NBA and NFL are sharp and don't think getting good numbers matters.

You need to have your head examined.

Your NBA playoff thread in 2014 ended up negative over 300 units....Your a proven air betting fraud who is a 20% capper....,,Nobody goes 154-389 and is up units unless their chucking out 40 unit PSI chasers.....lmfao

[lakerboy]

Nice try, but you guys are still way off. Just reverse everything. What about all of the games where a team covered the OPENERS (something that most of you guys cannot get because you do not wager enough per game) and the final line. Example: I grabbed Michigan State -2 1/2 against Iowa. The line closed at -3 1/2. MSU won by 3. The openers were a winner for me. The closer a loser for all of you who took MSU and gave the points. The same can be said for "Games of the Year Wagers" that come out in June. I hit a middle taking Michigan State -1 over Oregon,and then Oregon +3 1/2 over Michigan State. Many of you have it half right. The fact is that anytime you can beat the closing line, your odds of winning are better. Everyone knows this. The question is this. How many of you have the ability to wager at any time of the wagering cycle, from Sunday Afternoon, when the lines for the following week come down, to minutes before the game kicks off. How many of you have the money and the connections to wager big money on "games of the year"? This is the biggest edge that the "Pros" have over you guys. The "Pros" have the ability and financial resources to wager any amount at any time. Some of you guys laughed at my "ML Favorites of the Week" plays, but I never lost one and I will guarantee you that I made more money than ANYONE else in here. That means ANYONE. 13-0 will do that for you. You have to have gthe money going in. Then you have to find the right line and jump on it before it changes. This is why the "High Rollers" get to wager first and why the rest of you have to wait.

So wait you took -2.5 and won when the line closed at -3.5? So didn't you beat the closing line?

Wow.

[WalkingLuckCharm]

Your NBA playoff thread in 2014 ended up negative over 300 units....Your a proven air betting fraud who is a 20% capper....,,Nobody goes 154-389 and is up units unless their chucking out 40 unit PSI chasers.....lmfao

No way... earlier on I saw his spreadsheet it was crazy fade material..

Nah no one can be -300 units in a season u gotta back it up

[RavensFan2k3]

That is a very good point. I also think a very important aspect is having a firm understanding of whatever the sport is to understand what the opening line should be, then comparing that with the actual opening number. That way one can know if a line is too high, too low, etc.

I think this MNF game may be a good example. Although its not over, Broncos laying 4.5 to Bengals. WHY? And everyone is pounding Denver. Books clean up tonight.

[yisman]

I think this MNF game may be a good example. Although its not over, Broncos laying 4.5 to Bengals. WHY? And everyone is pounding Denver. Books clean up tonight.

it was 3.5, went to 4.5 this afternoon, then in the 30 minutes before the game, Cincy got bet

closed at 3.5

[lakerboy]

Cincy will probably lose.

[RavensFan2k3]

it was 3.5, went to 4.5 this afternoon, then in the 30 minutes before the game, Cincy got bet

closed at 3.5

I meant a good example of the post I quoted, not of beating the closing number. My mistake

[RavensFan2k3]

Cincy will probably lose.

Doubt it

[lakerboy]

Doubt it

Cincy will lose.

[RavensFan2k3]

Cincy will lose.

Good call man. Broncos win, Bengals cover

[The Kraken]

J7 said it was used by books as a predictor of who the long term winners would be

But that it also didn't correlate to being a long term winner

Basically, knowing which bettors BTCL is of more value to a book than to the bettor beating the closing lines

[BigDofBA]

I think this MNF game may be a good example. Although its not over, Broncos laying 4.5 to Bengals. WHY? And everyone is pounding Denver. Books clean up tonight.

I see this happen on a daily basis here.

People let the lines dictate how they bet their money. That is a big no no to me. It isn't that easy.