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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    I watch him every week, he's awful too. i like the under in this game. It's gonna be a crappy game I wouldn't trust any of these QB's to win. Hell it might even be a 3-3 tie in ot.
    Yeah...it's no doubt more a play against Miami for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    I'm sure a lot of people riding the potential final game in St. Louis angle...Not sure what to think here, i had Rams ML last week as dogs, scared to play them twice..
    They really don't have an offense outside of Gurley. Doug Martin is having a great year as well and he'll actually be able to run this week since they won't be down 35-0

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    Rams are a more superior team.
    Last edited by pimike; 12-17-15 at 02:45 PM. Reason: Spell

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Rams are a more superior team.
    Are they a play for you? I like betting more superior teams at basically a pick em line....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Rams are a more superior team.
    But if the Rams close as a favorite you have to bet the Bucs by your own definition of a sharp play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Rams are a more superior team.
    How did you come to this conclusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    But if the Rams close as a favorite you have to bet the Bucs by your own definition of a sharp play.
    Nope!!! Bucks did not open or start out as a favorite. Home team is and has been the favorite. IF and I Say IF bucks go as the Favorite it will NOT meet my system. Can't give away ALL my little nuggets.

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Nope!!! Bucks did not open or start out as a favorite. Home team is and has been the favorite. IF and I Say IF bucks go as the Favorite it will NOT meet my system. Can't give away ALL my little nuggets.

    lol
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  9. #44
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    Tatddy,

    I go by Vegas opening lines, I.e. Heritage and William Hill. Which was a pk. I never saw in Vegas Bucs -1? If I missed that let me know. I'm not sure where you got your source. ?

    Like I said if I'm wrong feel free to tell me where Vegas had Bucs -1 when the public was able to bet it.

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    Fair enough I didn't see the disclaimer about Vegas lines in you post. Mine were bookmaker lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    Fair enough I didn't see the disclaimer about Vegas lines in you post. Mine were bookmaker lines.
    Gotcha!!!!

    No I don't use offshore for that system.

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    My big concern tonight for Rams is how healthy is their stud RB? There offense is sad with out him 100% it's a no play for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Hammer the Rams anything better than -3
    Rams PK -120

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Tatddy,

    I go by Vegas opening lines, I.e. Heritage and William Hill. Which was a pk. I never saw in Vegas Bucs -1? If I missed that let me know. I'm not sure where you got your source. ?

    Like I said if I'm wrong feel free to tell me where Vegas had Bucs -1 when the public was able to bet it.
    Westgate did open the Bucs as a 2 pt Fav
    Last edited by Jowframs; 12-17-15 at 05:18 PM.

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    Bucs +1

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    It doesn't meet my system criteria period.

    However best of luck to all who play tonight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Time is Money View Post
    Rams probably have the absolute worst weapons in the entire league, thats the reason they're 31st in both points and yards per game
    I'm sure theres a statistical number about backin a rookie on primetime or in situations like these period.. id have to dig it up but I personally cant back a rookie in primetime lights.. I personally have to go with the better running back.. rams may be depleted at the playmaker position but ill say it again.. rams have the weapons to score. I see it going over the 41

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    very tough game to measure tonight...

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    line movement has me nervous too, been moving all day today....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDr3am View Post
    I'm sure theres a statistical number about backin a rookie on primetime or in situations like these period.. id have to dig it up but I personally cant back a rookie in primetime lights.. I personally have to go with the better running back.. rams may be depleted at the playmaker position but ill say it again.. rams have the weapons to score. I see it going over the 41
    Both RBS are having great seasons, Gurley has more TDS than Doug but he's not far behind in every other category. Will be a showcase of both their talents tonight. Bucs have the better offense overall, Jameis is far and beyond a better player than Keenum, especially with the ability to scramble for first downs when needed. Martin has a huge game I think. I took Bucs pk earlier this week, added an equal amount on Bucs TT over 20 as well.

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    Can't pick a side but gonna go with a bit on the over. Degen play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeep_Life 42 View Post
    line movement has me nervous too, been moving all day today....
    Same movement as the Vikes/Cards
    Lovin the Bucs More

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeep_Life 42 View Post
    line movement has me nervous too, been moving all day today....
    You don't need to bet it. Watch and see if maybe a 2nd half play looks good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    You don't need to bet it. Watch and see if maybe a 2nd half play looks good?
    Thats true, maybe a live bet later on

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Tatddy,

    I go by Vegas opening lines, I.e. Heritage and William Hill. Which was a pk. I never saw in Vegas Bucs -1? If I missed that let me know. I'm not sure where you got your source. ?

    Like I said if I'm wrong feel free to tell me where Vegas had Bucs -1 when the public was able to bet it.
    Do you guys ever know what you are talking about? Heritage is is NOT a Vegas Casino. Just how stupid are you people?

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    Line moves mean nothing

    Never cape off it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    Do you guys ever know what you are talking about? Heritage is is NOT a Vegas Casino. Just how stupid are you people?
    Lmao thought I typed SOUTHPOINT

    They open lines early and up 24 hours in Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Line moves mean nothing

    Never cape off it
    OK......You have your ways
    I Have Mine
    Its stronger than you think

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    This guy just say never CAPE off of it

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    Late bet on Rams here.
    20 bux won't kill me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Lmao thought I typed SOUTHPOINT

    They open lines early and up 24 hours in Vegas.
    I have spent more time in Vegas Casino's that you will in your entire life. Give me a break. Speaking of which, have you ever seen such ugly uniforms on BOTH teams?

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    The rapist qb will lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The rapist qb will lose.
    Which is who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRMAN23 View Post
    This guy just say never CAPE off of it
    Bwaaaaaaaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The rapist qb will lose.
    Lame....Does anyone ever know the real story
    I think she Raped him

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