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    Russia claims to have proof Turkey is buying oil from ISIS...

    Also funding and supporting them in other ways

    Russia also says they have no clue how the U.S. or anyone else couldn't know

    Russia is going to break this thing open and expose everyone.....

    Rocket check in

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    What I don't understand is this: For ISIS to make all of this money from stolen oil there has to be buyers on the other end

    Why isn't our main objective from the start figuring out who said buyers are? If ISIS has no buyers of stolen oil, they have no money, and there is no ISIS

    It ain't rocket science

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    Russia taking the lead now in the world

    It might be most respected nation right now

    USA needs Putin

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Russia taking the lead now in the world

    It might be most respected nation right now

    USA needs Putin
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Also funding and supporting them in other ways

    Russia also says they have no clue how the U.S. or anyone else couldn't know

    Russia is going to break this thing open and expose everyone.....

    Rocket check in
    Here we go

    https://www.rt.com/news/324263-russi...-isis-funding/


    Obama is not stupid - he knows all of this

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    https://www.rt.com/news/324045-putin...an-su-downing/

    #Breaking Turkey's Erdogan says will step down if Russian claims of buying oil from Daesh are proved

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    Putin is a pussy. What did he do to Turkey? Put sanctions on them. Turkey says they would do the same thing again. If this happen in the USA, and Obama did nothing, you want to hang him by his balls

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    I think most Americans support Russia more than their own leaders when it comes to this stuff and for good reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    What I don't understand is this: For ISIS to make all of this money from stolen oil there has to be buyers on the other end

    Why isn't our main objective from the start figuring out who said buyers are? If ISIS has no buyers of stolen oil, they have no money, and there is no ISIS

    It ain't rocket science
    Buyers are known...just a matter of if anyone besides Russia takes the steps to stop it. It's an impotent coalition other than Putin. Brokers show up to bid on the oil with the IS liasons and make the deals...it's not as if it's all routed through like on the legit market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INVEGA MAN View Post
    Putin is a pussy. What did he do to Turkey? Put sanctions on them. Turkey says they would do the same thing again. If this happen in the USA, and Obama did nothing, you want to hang him by his balls
    Atleast they're going Public with this....Do you really believe that the U.S. didn't know this was going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INVEGA MAN View Post
    Putin is a pussy. What did he do to Turkey? Put sanctions on them. Turkey says they would do the same thing again. If this happen in the USA, and Obama did nothing, you want to hang him by his balls
    You're misunderstanding the situation. What he did with the sanctions will hurt them big time on the long run.
    What do you want him to start a war with NATO? You might as well say goodbye to posting here, if he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Buyers are known...just a matter of if anyone besides Russia takes the steps to stop it. It's an impotent coalition other than Putin. Brokers show up to bid on the oil with the IS liasons and make the deals...it's not as if it's all routed through like on the legit market.
    Im just saying take out all of the illegal buyers and there will be no more....If everyone was 100% committed to stopping ISIS in all ways it wouldn't be that difficult IMO

    Cut off the head, the body will die

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Also funding and supporting them in other ways

    Russia also says they have no clue how the U.S. or anyone else couldn't know

    Russia is going to break this thing open and expose everyone.....

    Rocket check in
    Countries that ranks in the top in terms of total funding to ISIS:

    1. USA
    2.
    3.

    Goal is to breakdown Saudi's ruling family and cause chaos by driving the people against the ruling family. There will be lot of chaos in Saudi in 2016 and the oil prices will climb back.

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    How come CNN and FOX are not reporting on this shit today?


    Guantanamo inmate mistakenly held for 13 years due to name mix-up


    US officials have admitted they held the wrong man at Guantanamo Bay prison for 13 years because his name was similar to that of a high-profile terrorist suspect. The wrongly imprisoned man, Mustafa al-Aziz al-Shamiri, is now getting ready for reintegration into society.
    The truth emerged Tuesday during a panel hearing for al-Shamiri’s release, according to The Guardian. It had been previously alleged that al-Shamiri, 37, was a high-level Al-Qaeda courier and trainer. It turns out now he is actually a low-level foot soldier – contrary to what his profile says, published by the Department of Defense.
    The profile also says that al-Shamiri accused fought in Bosnia in 1995, Yemen’s civil war in 1996 (to which he allegedly admitted) and in the Afghan Taliban’s ranks in 2000-2001. He was allegedly captured in Mazar-e-Sharif, in north Afghanistan, and has since been in detention at Guantanamo.
    The reason for his lengthy stay is that he was considered too dangerous for release, but that there was inadequate evidence for a trial.
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    Al-Shamiri’s accusers now paint a completely different picture, and confess it was a bureaucratic rooster-up over his name.
    “Mustafa Abd-al-Qawi Abd-al-Aziz al-Shamiri (YM-434) fought in several jihadist theaters and associated with al-Qaida members in Afghanistan,” the prisoner’s profile says. “It was previously assessed that YM-434 also was an al-Qaida facilitator or courier, as well as a trainer, but we now judge that these activities were carried out by other known extremists with names or aliases similar to YM-434’s,” the statement said.
    The statement adds that al-Shamiri remained remorseless throughout, and that fragmentary and dated reporting pointed to his ambition of fighting to protect Muslims, “but not of global jihad, and there are no indications that his views have changed.”
    However, “he boasted that he is willing to remain in detention indefinitely, and has expressed no plans for the future apart from a desire to get married and a willingness to work at his family’s shop in Sanaa, Yemen.”
    On Tuesday, al-Shamiri appeared at a panel hearing to determine whether he was fit for release. Accompanied by an interpreter and two representatives, he was making his case for release. The first 17 minutes of the hearing were broadcast to journalists in Virginia, before a discussion of classified details began.
    “From the onset, he has demonstrated a consistent positive attitude towards life after Gitmo,” al-Shamiri’s lawyers said in their remarks. “He has a strong desire to obtain an education in order to provide for a future spouse that his family has already located for him,” the statement added.
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    Senate passes defense bill that halts Gitmo closure, gives military aid to Kiev & Syrian rebels
    “Mustafa will show you today that he is not a continuing significant threat to the United States of America. He is earnestly preparing for his life after Gitmo. During his time in detention, he has attended English and art classes, in addition to acquiring carpentry and cooking skills. During the last feast, Mustafa generously took the time to prepare over 30 plates of pastries for his fellow detainees. When I asked him why he would make pastries for his fellow detainees, he said it’s because it makes him feel like he can give back and share with people.”
    The statement goes on to say the following: “Mustafa does have remorse for choosing the wrong path early in life. He has vocalized to us that while he cannot change the past, he would definitely have chosen a different path. He wants to make a life for himself. He is aware that Yemen is not an option and he is willing to go to any country that will accept him.”
    The accused has been held at Guantanamo since 2002. There are still 107 detainees at the facility, 48 of whom have been cleared for release. Authorities are not divulging any details of al-Shamiri’s possible release date, if the panel approves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Im just saying take out all of the illegal buyers and there will be no more....If everyone was 100% committed to stopping ISIS in all ways it wouldn't be that difficult IMO

    Cut off the head, the body will die
    I totally agree with the idea and that course of action but unfortunately not everyone is against IS vs the almighty dollar when it comes to how it effects them with the buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charcoalbbq View Post
    Countries that ranks in the top in terms of total funding to ISIS:

    1. USA
    2.
    3.

    Goal is to breakdown Saudi's ruling family and cause chaos by driving the people against the ruling family. There will be lot of chaos in Saudi in 2016 and the oil prices will climb back.
    Only problem is the Saudis have a hand in IS as well. Basic agreement is we'll let you fukk shit up in the region and even toss you some money and assets but just keep that beheading and empire shitt outside our gates.

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    ISIS just released a video of them killing a Russian soldier and have threatened Moscow

    RIP ISIS.....

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    watch these vids...pretty eye opening stuff

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/324337-tu...is-oil-russia/

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    Quote Originally Posted by INVEGA MAN View Post
    Putin is a pussy. What did he do to Turkey? Put sanctions on them. Turkey says they would do the same thing again. If this happen in the USA, and Obama did nothing, you want to hang him by his balls
    Turks have NATO backing and ruski's know this.

    Thats why Putin won't do anything anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    ISIS just released a video of them killing a Russian soldier and have threatened Moscow

    RIP ISIS.....


    please tell me this is not so

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    I hope Russia wipes out ISIS and sends them back to the 7th century

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Im just saying take out all of the illegal buyers and there will be no more....If everyone was 100% committed to stopping ISIS in all ways it wouldn't be that difficult IMO

    Cut off the head, the body will die

    The imbecile in charge has other priorities.

    -CIA Chief: Obama Refused Strikes on ISIS Oil Wells Fearing 'Environmental Damage'







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    Obama is the worst Pres in American History

    Your a fukkin loser in life if you ever voted for him and very unsuccessful

    American will boom again when he is gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    I hope Russia wipes out ISIS and sends them back to the 7th century
    Almost impossible though right with how many laying low in Europe...weeder the world will be fighting Isis until the end of time.

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    German intel warns Saudi Arabia is shifting to ‘impulsive interventionist policy’

    In a rare case, German foreign intelligence BND warns that Saudi Arabia, one of the West’s closest allies, is tempted to play a destabilizing role in the Middle East, pursuing its "increasingly aggressive foreign policy."

    Germany’s Federal Security Service (BND) has issued a policy paper that outlines the immediate risks coming from Saudi Arabia’s strong desire to become a dominant power in the Middle East, according to Der Spiegel's story.
    The memo widely quoted by the Germany’s top newspapers says the “increasingly offensive foreign policy” has come in since the new Saudi king, Salman bin Abdulaziz, was crowned in January 2015. It reportedly says internal power struggles in the royal family and the ambition to unilaterally rule the whole region threaten to make the key Western ally a frequent source of instability in the Arab world.
    “The current cautious diplomatic posture of senior members of the Saudi royal family will be replaced by an impulsive interventionist policy,” the BND memo was quoted by Der Spiegel as saying.




    Black Friday Saudi-style: Riyadh to behead more than 50 people



    Within Saudi ruling circles, the BND singles out the king’s son, deputy crown prince and defense minister Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud as among those who are pushing for a new, far more aggressive and dangerous course, which explains the emerging threats coming from the new Saudi Arabian regime. Prince Mohammad bin Salman is believed to play a central role in Saudi Arabia’s move to invade neighboring Yemen, but he has also seized control over the kingdom’s economic assets, BND says.
    The concentration of so much power in his hands “harbors a latent risk that in pursuit for establishing himself in the line of succession in his father’s lifetime, he may overreach,” Der Spiegel quotes the memo as saying. If that happens, “relations with friendly and above all allied countries in the [Middle East] could be more than worsened,” while the US influence over the region “will be neglected,” the memo says.
    Both the ruling King Salman and his son, Prince Mohammad, are desperate to become “dominant rulers of the Arab world” through building up ”a strong military component and new regional alliances,” German intelligence agency’s memo reads. Mohammad, aged 30, is also described by BND as being keen to seize the throne after his father’s passing, though he is only second in the succession line behind the King’s nephew, 80-year-old Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef.
    If that becomes a reality, the BND analysts write, the whole region would also face constant unrest because of a mounting rivalry with Iran. “Strategic struggle between the two countries based on religious and ideological hostility” is likely to unleash conflicts across neighboring Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain, with Riyadh not fearing to take “serious military, financial and political risks,” the memo warns. In Syria, it is a top priority for Saudi Arabia’s new royal family to make President Bashar Assad go, along with adding fuel to ongoing Syrian war, according to BND’s assessment.

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    ‘Allah took their sanity’: Putin accuses Turkish leadership of ‘aiding terror’

    <time class="date date_article-header">Published time: 3 Dec, 2015 09:16</time><time class="date date_article-header">Edited time: 3 Dec, 2015 15:14</time>
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    December 3, 2015. Russian President Vladimir Putin delivers his annual Presidential Address to the Federal Assembly at the Kremlin's St. George Hall. © Ramil Sitdikov / Sputnik


    Russian President Vladimir Putin lashed out at “part of the leadership in Turkey" during his annual address to the parliament, accusing Ankara of having trade ties with terrorist groups in Syria and Iraq. He also promised more sanctions for Turkey over downing of the Russian jet.


    Putin said Russia still cannot comprehend why the downing of the plane happened.
    We were prepared to cooperate with Turkey on most sensitive issues and go further than their allies. Allah knows why they did it. Apparently Allah decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey by taking their sanity,” Putin said.


    Putin stressed that Moscow’s anger over the incident is directed at particular individuals and not at the Turkish people.
    We have many friends in Turkey,” he said. “They should know that we do not equate them and part of the current Turkish leadership, which holds a direct responsibility for the deaths of our troops in Syria,” he said.
    He added that the killing of Russian officers would have long-term consequences for those responsible.
    We will not forget this aid to terrorists. We have always considered betrayal the worst and most shameful act. Let those in Turkey know it who shot our pilots in the back, who hypocritically tries to justify themselves and their actions and cover up the crimes of terrorists,” he said.
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    Putin said Russia would not resort to saber-rattling to respond to the Turkish actions, but neither would it limit itself to the economic sanctions it imposed since the incident.
    The incident with the Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by Turkish warplanes near the Turkish-Syrian border has greatly deteriorated relations between the two countries. Turkey insists it acted in response to a brief violation of its airspace and was justified in using lethal force. Russia insists no violation took place and has accused Turkey of supporting terrorists in Syria.
    The downing of the bomber resulted in the deaths of two Russian troops, who were the first combat losses during the two month-long Syrian campaign. The pilot of the downed plane was killed by a pro-Turkish militant group as he was parachuting to the ground. A marine was killed by militants when a helicopter dispatched to rescue the bomber crew came under fire from the ground.
    Putin’s address started with a minute’s silence to commemorate the two troops. The widows of the dead Russians were present at the event.
    Putin stressed that the Russian operation in Syria is aimed first and foremost at preventing fighters who went to the Middle East from Russia and its neighboring countries from returning home and bringing the threat of terrorist attacks to Russian soil.
    "They are getting money, weapons, gathering strength. If they get stronger, winning there, they will inevitably come here to sow fear and hatred, blast, kill and torture people," Putin said.
    Putin called on all nations that have pledged to fight terrorism to join forces and abandon the notion that terrorist groups can be used for country’s own goals. He stressed that the rise of terrorism in the Middle East over the last few years was caused to a large degree by foreign meddling.
    Some countries in the Middle East and North Africa, which used to be stable and relatively prosperous – Iraq, Libya, Syria – have turned into zones of chaos and anarchy that pose a threat to entire world,” Putin said.
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    We know why it happened. We know who wanted to oust unwanted regimes, and rudely impose their own rules. They triggered hostilities, destroyed statehoods, set people against each other and simply washed their hands [of the situation] – giving way to radicals, extremists and terrorists.”
    Russia’s lost thousands of lives over two decades of terrorist attacks and is still not safe from terrorist attacks, as evidenced by the bombings in Volgograd in 2014 and the bombing of a Russian passenger plane in Egypt in October, Putin reminded.
    “Breaking the bandits’ back took us almost 10 years,” he said. “We practically pushed the terrorists out of Russia, but we are still engaged in a fierce fight against the remainder of the gangs. This evil still comes back occasionally.
    Putin said the rise of jihadists in the Middle East in our time is not unlike the rise of Nazism in the mid-20th century, and that the world should learn from the mistakes of the past, when a failure to act in time resulted in the loss of millions of lives.
    We are facing a destructive barbaric ideology again and we have no right to allow those new obscurants to achieve their goals. We have to abandon all differences, create a single fist, a single anti-terrorist front, which would act in accordance with the international law and under the aegis of the United Nations,” he said.
    Putin was speaking on Thursday before the Federal Assembly, a joint session of the two chambers of the Russian parliament, plus regional governors and the cabinet. The annual address is a traditional key policy report of the executive, which focuses on domestic politics rather than international relations.
    ‘Business as usual’ with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is now over, Sergey Ivanov, the head of Putin’s office, confirmed to RT after the Russian president’s address:
    “Yes, it is definitely over. But fighting terrorism is ‘business as usual’, as the Russian president said,” Ivanov said.
    The Turkish leadership “must acknowledge that a tragic mistake was committed and to beg for [forgiveness], or this leadership will not play any significant role in bilateral relations between Russia and Turkey. We will not be able to have any ties with Turkey under this leadership if it doesn’t change its attitude,” Konstantin Kosachev, the chair of the State Duma Committee for Foreign Relations, told RT.

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    Putin's despotic behaviour is caused by his Asberger's syndrome.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-vladimir-putin-have-aspergers-syndrome/

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapperman2 View Post
    Putin's despotic behaviour is caused by his Asberger's syndrome.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-vladimir-putin-have-aspergers-syndrome/
    can't be true...we don't grow Asparagus in Russia

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    We should wipe out Turkey too

    Problems very easy to solve if your not afraid like the USA is

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