[Capybara]

I have a hard time staying out of them. Is there something mentally wrong with me? Logically, I understand that they must be fixed. It's a near certainty. If it is programmable software, why would a book just let it remain random and give you a near 50% chance of making money? Plus, time and time again, I see that when you up your bets, you lose on a consistent basis. And yet... I find myself always returning. I keep hoping against hope that this is the time they will let me have a big win. Am I dumber than a box of rocks?

What are other people's experiences?

Do they differ between books, like some are set at "A$$ r-pe" and some are just set at "mildly bitchslap" ? I know that in the 5D one I actually had some big hits (before I gave it all back), but in the Bookmaker one, I have never ever once been allowed to win anything with a wager of over $5.

Do I need professional help for returning to these all the time with my hard-earned money?

Thanks for everyone's thoughts on these important questions.

[freeVICK]

Of course it's rigged. Want to stay away? Most books can turn the casino on and off, just call and ask.

[Ra77er]

This post is a trap do not respond...

[TheMoneyShot]

Been wagering online for 16 years. Not once have I played for "LIVE MONEY" at any sportsbooks casino.

It's clearly rigged. Everyone should stay away.

[Capybara]

This post is a trap do not respond...

What's wrong with having a discussion?

[gauchojake]

I used to crush the casino at BetED RIP

[rpesi9955]

Sounds like the problem here is you.A lil self control goes a long way.

[ByeShea]

I have a hard time staying out of them. Is there something mentally wrong with me? Logically, I understand that they must be fixed. It's a near certainty. If it is programmable software, why would a book just let it remain random and give you a near 50% chance of making money? Plus, time and time again, I see that when you up your bets, you lose on a consistent basis. And yet... I find myself always returning. I keep hoping against hope that this is the time they will let me have a big win. Am I dumber than a box of rocks?

Yes, you are dumb and sad - but you're in luck. I am an online casino coach.

[jjgold]

Pass

Capps stamp sucker on your forhead

[Capybara]

Pass

Capps stamp sucker on your forhead

Ha! This from Mr. "Where dreams come true."!

[Capybara]

No need to take shots, boys, just was looking for opinions.

So then all are in agreement that they are all 100% rigged? No one plays regularly with even semi-equivalent success to real casinos?

[jjgold]

Points ok but not real cash

[5918mike]

"Am I dumber than a box of rocks?"

YES

[VeggieDog]

"I have a hard time staying out of them. Is there something mentally wrong with me? "

When the fun stops.
Problem Gamblers Helpline
1-800-522-4700

[j_newcomb5]

Definitely rigged - never consistently won in any book and I have accounts with 10-11 books. It sucks if you have a losing day and want to try to break even and there are no more games - practice self-control or just take a loss that day.

[Ballerholic]

so fixed

[captrobey]

The best bet you can EVER make is to say that all online Casinos are rigged. I have played at a bunch of them through the years. Some books i have had closed down. But there are a couple still up .

The worst i have seen is DSI. I used to say it was 5Ds but ever since DSI has took away the live it is off the charts insane. You can find a lot of my last sessions on here as well as a bunch of others all with the same stuff going on.When i do lose control it is because i get mad at the insane hands and keep betting more to catch up . If you add the amounts of 20/21s the dealer gets compared to you (I Do) it is always a 3/1 or 4/1 ratio ALWAYS every time going to the dealer.

The only one i have had a bit of luck maybe 1 out of 5 sessions is GTbets . But at least once in a blue moon there you can win something. Other then that i do not trust them even the live casinos online . Especially Youwagers live Casino. Watch every table you will see the LCB guys roaming there. I believe they are plants and every time they join a table i always lose. If you leave and go to another table they follow you. I have won at times there early morning where there are not a lot of players and there are no LCB guys there. Go there now if you want i bet you there will be a bunch . They go by LCB and a bunch of numbers like LCB15327 or something like that.

[smitch124]

Avoid avoid avoid.

[gauchojake]

I don't know if they are rigged in the way that you think. I believe that you can set the payouts on most games to a specific ratio like a slot machine. Vegas pays back typically over .90 and you still fell like a loser playing those things. I don't think most online casino operators are interested in returning much of your money to you so my guess is that the payouts are set pretty low.

[goduke]

its your need to try to make money too quickly. Set small goals and grind away, dont bet online casinos. Money cannot be made fast in a safe consistent way. Keep track of your numbers between sports bets, poker, online casinos or whatever else you do. After a couple weeks look at it. Itll make you puke when you notice all the money you lose in a rigged casino

[rpesi9955]

I won big in the Sportsbook.ag casino last year and have been withdrawing ever since. It's taking forever but I've gotten 5 max withdraw checks since January 26.

[CrazyCarl]

I have a hard time staying out of them. Is there something mentally wrong with me? Logically, I understand that they must be fixed. It's a near certainty.

A near certainty ? Lol. Wow.

Lol.

Might be 45%-48% for you even, what does it matter? Stupid bet for addicts or fools.

[Capybara]

I won big in the Sportsbook.ag casino last year and have been withdrawing ever since. It's taking forever but I've gotten 5 max withdraw checks since January 26.

See, this is the stuff that confuses me. We've just finished arriving at the infallible conclusion that these casinos are rigged so that you cannot win. Well then (assuming we believe rpesi) why would they ever allow someone to win huge like this? If we think of this in the terms of a mathematical proof, the proof has just failed. How can this new info be reconciled with a casinos-are-rigged hypothesis?

[CrazyCarl]

See, this is the stuff that confuses me. We've just finished arriving at the infallible conclusion that these casinos are rigged so that you cannot win. Well then (assuming we believe rpesi) why would they ever allow someone to win huge like this? If we think of this in the terms of a mathematical proof, the proof has just failed. How can this new info be reconciled with casinos-are-rigged hypothesis?

You know how if you a flip a coin a hundred times, and have someone bet heads every time, and someone bet tails every time, one of the two will almost certainly "win".

This guy flipped heads 80/100 times, got lucky. So what?

[rpesi9955]

See, this is the stuff that confuses me. We've just finished arriving at the infallible conclusion that these casinos are rigged so that you cannot win. Well then (assuming we believe rpesi) why would they ever allow someone to win huge like this? If we think of this in the terms of a mathematical proof, the proof has just failed. How can this new info be reconciled with a casinos-are-rigged hypothesis?

Stay away from the casinos. I played for about a week and once I hit I stopped and stuck to sports.Sports is much more fun and easier. I just honestly do not see how any of these online casinos won't be fixed in one way or another.

[Capybara]

You know how if you a flip a coin a hundred times, and have someone bet heads every time, and someone bet tails every time, one of the two will almost certainly "win".

This guy flipped heads 80/100 times, got lucky. So what?

I know what you're getting at. But my point is, if one assumes they are all rigged, this doesn't allow for the scenario where someone can actually hit a jackpot. In the shell game, no one ever finds the red ball. I'm trying to get at precisely what level of "rigging" is going on. But something tells me it's a tightly guarded secret we will never get at. Probably 50 people in the world know how these are set up and what your exact odds really are with them and how online casinos really work.

[CrazyCarl]

I know what you're getting at. But my point is, if one assumes they are all rigged, this doesn't allow for the scenario where someone can actually hit a jackpot. In the shell game, no one ever finds the red ball. I'm trying to get at precisely what level of "rigging" is going on. But something tells me it's a tightly guarded secret we will never get at. Probably 50 people in the world know how these are set up and what your exact odds really are with them and how online casinos really work.

Whether the house's edge is 3%, 5%, or 20%, it's stupid to play regardless. Different places have different edges, but you should avoid them in every case.

Most probably will give out a jackpot, too. Why would they care? They win anyways. Lotteries pay out, still make tons. Some others may cheat and almost never give jackpot or never actually do. Either way, it's stupid to play.

[rpesi9955]

Don't really know what answer your looking for here Capybara but I hope you find it. Good luck.

[Capybara]

No I appreciate your posts, guys, thanks for chiming in. Mostly I just think it's an interesting topic. I know that intuitively we ALL know that it can't be a fair fight with these, that the cards and dice and spins are NOT random the way they are at a real casino... I just would love to know to what DEGREE the software is rigged, HOW it's rigged, HOW it's determined how bad you will get beaten at any given time, etc. I'm so very curious how the coding works. And I do wonder if the programs all have settings that the book can adjust up or down or what.

[rpesi9955]

No I appreciate your posts, guys, thanks for chiming in. Mostly I just think it's an interesting topic. I know that intuitively we ALL know that it can't be a fair fight with these, that the cards and dice and spins are NOT random the way they are at a real casino... I just would love to know to what DEGREE the software is rigged, HOW it's rigged, HOW it's determined how bad you will get beaten at any given time, etc. I'm so very curious how the coding works. And I do wonder if the programs all have settings that the book can adjust up or down or what.

Its most likely all an algorithm based on individual play. Bet amounts,consistency and play time.Probably very simple in writing or code but the possibilities are endless due to variables.

[ByeShea]

Mostly I just think it's an interesting topic.

It's actually not interesting, at least when you view it from the perspective of a player.

Someone put a lot of time and money into the unregulated software you're so fascinated by.

While it may entertain you, make no mistake - its purpose is to separate you from your money and nothing else. There is absolutely no incentive for that entity to give you a fair and square game.

The only thing dumber than a guy pumping cash into an online casino would be an online casino that cuts checks of any consequence to players after offering them a fair game. Best of luck finding one of them.

[Optional]

You're feeding off the repeated instant gratification. Not the chance at winning so much.

There's not really much else that does this like a pokie does. So I think it's case of just having to quit cold turkey if you want to beat the problem.

[gauchojake]

Are there any countries that issue online gaming licenses that require minimum payouts for the casino games? I am not looking for a game, but if you're into that kinda thing, it would be the first requirement for play IMO.

[5918mike]

I don't think it's rigged beyond the house advantage and the advantage the games themselves provide to the casinos.

[sshz]

Absolutely the worse way to wager......I know for a fact the payouts are set extremely low, way way lower than vegas or any licensed facility. You have no chance to win, maybe 1 out of 100 if you play for a shirt time so why piss your money away. If you're looking for quick action, do some horse racing. At least it's a bit more fair......