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    Phil Ivey sues Borgata over distracting servers and alcohol

    I'm new to the boards here but have hovered long enough to know there are a few other poker players on the forum who went through the Full Tilt deal. Interesting side note to the ongoing legal battles, Ivey has now brought a countersuit against the Borgata over the baccarat winnings he was involved in.

    http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...ons-at-borgata

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    Great stuff! Smart way to get the evidence introduced!

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    The Borgata is seeking a protective order to prevent the deposition of the casino’s food and beverage manager, according to the court document.
    That's pretty amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    That's pretty amazing.
    This whole thing could get interesting.

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    Ivey's lucky he's not in jail, and he's the last person on earth who should be bitching about how somebody took advantage of him.

    Pot calling kettle black much?
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    Ivey is broke right?

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    He is a scumbag

    Will be broke because he is a compulsive gambler

    All end up broke regardless of bankroll size

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    A casino using booze and tittys to extract money from gamblers? I'm shocked!!!

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    One sides' advantage is generally accepted, the other side's is not.

    Too bad. Ivey has a case here. If a casino is slipping and has readable cards, it's their fault, not the player.
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    Ivey should have won the case against them in the first place..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is a scumbag

    Will be broke because he is a compulsive gambler

    All end up broke regardless of bankroll size
    Really? U speaking from experience? One thing that differs him from every other gambler out there is that he will always have a backer even if he does go broke...atleast for cards

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    He'll probably settle out of court for three comped nights & a free buffet voucher.
    At least that's what Donker would get him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Ivey's lucky he's not in jail
    Why, Nasher?

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    The dealer must have been in on it....come on now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    He is a scumbag

    Will be broke because he is a compulsive gambler

    All end up broke regardless of bankroll size
    1. Wrong

    2. Pot meet kettle

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    Ivey will never be broke yes he does spend money like a azz but he's a hustler kid will just find another way to make a buck and keep moving he's not dumb just got a problem like most of us he loves the action and titties who can blame him

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    How did the thing in England turn out? This is not the first time Ivey has been in the middle of these kind of rhubarbs . I think Monaco , too. The Asian chick must be his scout and have the eyes of an eagle, LOL!

    But, anyway, look at the money opportunities if bad cards get in the game. Like a reverse break in would work. Have your own card factory - so what - it costs you a 100 k to make a shvtpile of cards - break in - not to steal something but to change the cards. Or bribe the delivery guy to deliver these readable cards.

    There are a lot of possible ways. If he has got caught at this 3 times or more - how many times did he not get caught.

    On top of that - he must be a greedy pig? Could have maybe rocked them for 500K and they would not have complained so bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRMAN23 View Post
    Ivey will never be broke yes he does spend money like a azz but he's a hustler kid will just find another way to make a buck and keep moving he's not dumb just got a problem like most of us he loves the action and titties who can blame him
    If he gambles heavy he will be broke 100000000%

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    Where were the pit bosses or anyone else that is suppose to watch these games. They didn't think ANY of this was out of line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    Where were the pit bosses or anyone else that is suppose to watch these games. They didn't think ANY of this was out of line?
    Linking to a decent article that lays it out in more detail. Apparently, as a poster mentioned earlier in the thread, Ivey has exploited this more than once.

    http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-p...ill-1562993963

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    Thanks and I understand what hey did and how he did it. There is a great 60 Minutes Sports interview with Ivey where he talks about it(I can link it here if you haven't see it). My issue is: Where were the people paid to stop this? I personally don't think edge sorting or card counting is cheating. I'm probably in the minority with that on this site, which is odd because we are all battling longer odds than necessary when we gamble at casinos. Casinos have a built in system to take the most money they can from us, without it seeming like they are doing it. They are the ones that have all the tools to stop card counting and edge sorting -- which are amazing skills -- and if they miss either one of those, they are the ones to blame.

    If Ivey did do something illegal, which he didn't, he would be in jail now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    Why, Nasher?
    He has no clue what he's talking about

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