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You haven't been paying attention. The Republicans have run McCain and Romney and they don't even have that this time. Going to try for a revolution that they will have to suppress with a military takeover by running Bush up the flagpole again.Originally Posted by Mr KLC
It should be interesting. The Republicans will try to say voting for Clinton is not moving forward, which leaves Jeb in a pretty awkward place. Plus with Rubio making a run at this it only shows that Jeb might not be as popular in Florida as he once was.
On a side note: I was in a group behind Jeb a fews years back at the Coral Gables golf course. The guy has a nasty hook.
That's why they lost. Same old faces running, while the Democrats trotted someone new out there that could communicate, and looked good on TV. Hillary is not that. That's why Obama knocked her out in 2008. Nearly half of the country doesn't like her already. People talk about Romney, and the 47%. Hillary is about at that mark, and of the other people that do like her, some of those are not going to be inspired to go out for her like they were for Obama. Obama knew he could win by inspiring the minority vote. Hillary does not have charisma to do that. Obama said the Democrats lost in 2014 because everybody didn't come out to vote. After 8 years of Obama, I guarantee you the Right is going to be energized. Without a fresh face on the Left, they're going to lose again.
People tend to have short memories. Bill Clinton was handed the presidency by Ross Perot. He was not a beloved character as the media portrays. Would you let him babysit your kids? Perot had less of an impact 4 years later, but that, coupled with a tired old establishment candidate, allowed him to cement his role as the spoiler and lead this country down the death spiral we are in today. Now we elect people with absolutley no resume to "run things". In fact, with most of the electorate, if you have been successful outside of sucking on the government teet, its a strike or 2 against u. It may be too late for us if this goes to another socialist in sheeps clothing with no real world experience. Its time to opt out folks.
That's what you told yourself last time. Clinton does not need charisma because she is going to be running against a dead fish. Plus, she's going to have Bill and Obama doing concerts in the swing states.
I think Jeb is toast,, and that's why Rubio is going to run. I never really understood the thinking that Jeb would win. All you have to say is "Bush" and almost half the country runs the other way. In the same breath, the media might start saying he doesn't have enough experience. They'll say something like, "Why are Republicans yelling about Obama's lack of experience, and then backing someone like Rubio?" That's why I think someone like Scott Walker has the best shot. Young guy. Talks well. Already been vented by the Democrats when they tried to get him recalled, so not likely to find any surprises in his past.
What amazes me is that the Republicans could f\*\*k up not only unseating Obama, but letting Hillary into the White House. Do you know how impossible that is to fumble away? They are creating a modern-day Democratic Presidential dynasty because they literally can't come up with one electable alternative. Incredible.
Listen to what you are saying. You are already admitting that Hillary needs help to win this thing by recruiting Bill and Obama. I wouldn't trust Obama to help her out that much. Kinda like everyone stayed away from Bush when they tried to win the Republican nomination, plus Obama is so full of himself, he would probably look at helping her being beneath him. He and Michelle don't like the Clintons anyway.
The Clinton mafia wouldn't be running if they didn't know that victory was already in the bag.
Hillary is a puppet of the CFR, Bilderbergers and One World government.
They will rig the election. There are so many ways to do it. Voter fraud, machine fraud, tabulation fraud,
propaganda, expansion of voter rights to illegals, etc. The combination she esposes of a hawkish foreign policy
with a deeper domestic socialism and expedited moral decay is the recipe of world government.
Go ahead and vote your convictions, but don't expect them to win. There is not going to be change
in this "country" anymore via the electoral process.
Technologies and systems which ensure perpetual control of the citizenry are in place.
Big part of the problem. People bitch about the obvious lack of leadership in this country, but they've never voted. Go figure.
What you are saying is technically right.
Let's see if the Republicans blow it. This is literally a softball being lobbed their way.
I don't see it being a softball at all. Hilary right now is the clear favorite. She'll fuk it up, trust me, but the last softball thrown during an election went by the name of Palin.
Clinton has already won it. You just don't know it yet. Again, she has NO COMPETITION. You can't beat the Yankees with the Oklahoma City Redhawks just because they are going to take the field.
Also, Clinton has Wall Street because they know the Clintons deliver. They don't need or want a R because that only makes it obvious they are running the country. They can at least cry socialism with Clinton and pretend they aren't pulling the strings.
Jeb has the money and the propaganda machine behind him. They will have people like yourself voting for him in the end the same way all the Republican naysayers voted for Romney after swearing they wouldn't. Plus, the Rs still love W, especially in the South. If he hits the campaign trail for him, things will turnaround. The Rs are traumatized and freaked out and having a Bush back in office will be such a wonderful thought.
It is possible that Bush might even be too much for the Rs too stomach in which case, you can just cancel the election. They at least can potentially steal it with Bush if they can keep Anonymous from screwing things up for them again.
I don't believe people are going to want the same-o same-o. If its Clinton-Bush, I truly believe it will be one of the lowest turnouts, percentage wise, in history. Unless, a third party candidate swamps in, and energizes a sector of the population. In that case, the winner is whoever is opposite of that 3rd party, similar to when Clinton beat Bush in 1992 with Perot getting 19% of the vote, or when Bush beat Gore in 2000 when Nader got 3%.
Last edited by Mr KLC; 04-13-15 at 09:24 AM.
Nah. It's going to be the most important election in the history of the world!!!! Big turnout for Clinton versus Bush. That is the ultimate opportunity to vote for their own destruction and they will not want to miss that chance.
If I had a dime for every time I heard that statement. LOL!
Well you can say it has a chance to be a historic event
The actual election race will get theost attention of all times
The odds of a back to back Dem in the white house again are huge. People are sick of Obama and his policies.
They don't want another Dem, especially a woman.
Even tho Obama and his policies have been good for wall street and has created millions of jobs, it hasn't been
good enough.
Doesn't matter the accomplishments of the Dems, the stupid voting public will vote against their interests.
Case in point in the midterms. The Repubs didn't have anything to run on, just bash the other guys.
Looks like it will be the same this time. Hell, not 24 hours after Rand announced his candidacy, an attack ad
came out by his own party. How fukked up is that?
I never thought I'd see a black man in office in my lifetime, maybe we might see a woman. We shall see.
Very true... one of the truest statements I have seen on SBR in a long timeHillary is a puppet of the CFR, Bilderbergers and One World government.
lol you really don't realize how this sentence shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Obama did not help Wall St other than specific sectors, he simply did not get in the way of the real people in power. The market is up to all time highs because Obama did nothing. So you're wrong there but that isn't new for you since majority of your arguments are not backed by a calculator making my job easy to begin with buddy! Let me show you...
"has created millions of jobs?" Don't you want to be more than a sheep before you leave this planet?
I'll make it very, very simple for you to understand.
You have a basket of apples but they are not yours, simply in your possession legally. Their owners come and legally take 4 apples away and over the course of a few years they return 1 apple at a time to you until they have returned the 4 apples.
You have created nothing. If you believe you have gained anything, you should call Bernie Madoff or just vote for Clinton.
Last edited by brooks85; 04-13-15 at 10:30 AM.
FOX News is what got Romney the nomination.... FOX News is just a mouthpiece for the GOP establishment, all they do all day is repeat GOP establishment talking points 24/7. So the zombies who watch FOX News all day(typically older retired people, who tend to be the most likely demographic to vote) heard nonstop for months how Romney is the only electable one, how he is the only one with a chance of beating Obama, how he is inevitable, how electability is the most important aspect to consider, and Romney won because they bought it.
They will do the same with Jeb.
Stand for Rand
I would think the Clintons do not want Obama anywhere near this campaign
she's got bigger balls than barrack hussein obama
lets not forget Obama goes down as the worst Pres in American History
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Hillary is a political whore. You can treat her as bad as you want, but as long as you pay her back with something, she's OK. Bill cheated on her left and right, but she stood by his side because she knew she would get rewards in return. Eventually she got elected to the Senate, even though they had to move to a state like New York to do it. there was no way she would have got elected in Arkansas. Bill probably didn't mind because there was plenty of women up there. Hillary was supposed to get the presidency in 2008 until they found someone more electable. No problem. We'll just give here the Secretary of State job, and she'll stay happy.
Now they are giving her an "opportunity" again. I don't think they would allow it if they truly thought it was necessary to win this one. They made their progress in transforming America the last 8 years. I'm sure they wouldn't mind 4 years of total Republican rule. Moderates fighting Conservatives are just as good as Reps vs. Dems. except in this case, if anything bad happens, we'll just blame it on all of them. Gives them plenty of time to groom the next 8 year leader, and make plans to get Congress again so they can finish the transformation. In the same breath, you finally shut Hillary up once and for all because she got her shot.
Tied with the guy you voted for before him. Bush-Obama were two peas in a pod just like Obama and Romney and Clinton and Bush. Vote for whomever you like but you will be voting for your own destruction no matter the choice.
Fixed it for your snaggles
Anyone that voted for Obama has to be the dumbest human on Earth
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pretty accurate actually
Hell no i'm not voting for Leatherface Clinton.
Who likes her, anybody? Never met anyone who did. You're 67, rich, go enjoy your later years instead of still trying to work when you don't have to.
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