[sam9ball]

Sudden Death Tournament
for those tied for 50th place.
If it's heads-up or 50 people tied this will be your final opportunity to Qualify.

Tournament will be held on
Sunday April 19th @ 3pm EST.

[spider]

that's great Sam, that settles it.

thanks,

[sinmiedo]

thank you Sam and SBR ,
I like official versions.
Great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sam

[SharpAngles]

First step to getting your break Sam!

Now hound them about H4H and you'll go down as a legend of SBR Poker

P.S. I guess I'll take this as "SBR Forum" backing out of their wager offer yesterday?

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

First step to getting your break Sam!

Now hound them about H4H and you'll go down as a legend of SBR Poker

Most around here want to be helpful to SBR/staff, not hurt or disparage them.

Unfortunately, that truth seems to be missed... and helpful info/insights/suggestions by members get summarily dismissed as complaints/complainers. That's unfortunate, as well.

The above S.D. tourney clarification was necessary, and first brought to attention by a member (as previous things have similarly been).

Only an idiot wants an antagonistic relationship w/staffers on a site they like/enjoy & frequent; normal members *want* to like/respect staffers. But, it's a 2-way street. Members need to feel it's reciprocated. Being constantly ignored by staffers isn't a good recipe for engendering warm & fuzzies from the customer -- rather, it fosters frustration and resentment... which will obviously manifest in posts.

[stevek173]

OJ I appreciate you calling out the sleeze but I mean calm down already this is completely cool.

Sammy - awesome idea, good luck to everyone involved.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

OJ I appreciate you calling out the sleeze but I mean calm down already this is completely cool.

I'm completely calm -- and like Obama -- I'm a UNITER, not a divider.

Now stevay... I realize I'm a teacher @ the poker tables w/you, but christ on a pogo stick, dewd, do I have to teach reading & comprehension, too? (I wouldn't charge you the same amt as my table lessons, hell you'd go broke, ffs!)

I said the solution Sammy proffered here was necessary (thus automatically implying "completely cool")... got it, cochise?

The other commentary was requisite and sagacious (have Alissa help you here).

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

P.S. I guess I'll take this as "SBR Forum" backing out of their wager offer yesterday?

[stevek173]

Lol, noted Mac

[GUMMO77]

P.S. I guess I'll take this as "SBR Forum" backing out of their wager offer yesterday?

What wager?

I hardly look at SBR in two days and the wheels fall off.

[GUMMO77]

Sammy, you're good people.

Bite, you're great people.

Stevek, you're crazy/fuckedup/grab a drink with you kind of people.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Sammy, you're good people.

Bite, you're great people.

Stevek, you're crazy/fuckedup/grab a drink with you kind of people.

GUMMO sharp as they come.

What wager?

I hardly look at SBR in two days and the wheels fall off.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post23779611

BTW, someone told me JoJo's ex Jon Kretna built the wheels so.....

[stevek173]

Sammy, you're good people.

Bite, you're great people.

Stevek, you're crazy/fuckedup/grab a drink with you kind of people.

Sounds good man, anytime.

[Auto Donk]

I know one player who will register no matter where he's situated in the standings: PO69

quick question, little hypo: what if players 48-52 all have the same amount of pts? trny gives away 3 seats?

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

I know one player who will register no matter where he's situated in the standings: PO69

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

quick question, little hypo: what if players 48-52 all have the same amount of pts? trny gives away 3 seats?

^^ makes the most sense

[Optional]

Most around here want to be helpful to SBR/staff, not hurt or disparage them.

Unfortunately, that truth seems to be missed... and helpful info/insights/suggestions by members get summarily dismissed as complaints/complainers. That's unfortunate, as well.

The above S.D. tourney clarification was necessary, and first brought to attention by a member (as previous things have similarly been).

Only an idiot wants an antagonistic relationship w/staffers on a site they like/enjoy & frequent; normal members *want* to like/respect staffers. But, it's a 2-way street. Members need to feel it's reciprocated. Being constantly ignored by staffers isn't a good recipe for engendering warm & fuzzies from the customer -- rather, it fosters frustration and resentment... which will obviously manifest in posts.

Do a search for posts mentioning the name Doug/Douglas/Dougie in the poker forum... then try and tell me about how no one actually complains and its all just "constructive ideas".

And just LOL ROFL ROFLMAO and any other laughing acronyms about your first line!

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Do a search for posts mentioning the name Doug/Douglas/Dougie in the poker forum... then try and tell me about how no one actually complains and its all just "constructive ideas".

Lou can take it, Opti.
(Dougie ghost)

And "most" means most... not all.
I like to be precise with the King's English.

Bottom line: When the customer is consistently IGNORED (hell, not even the courtesy of a response 99% of time)... the responsibility for creating the atmosphere of dissatisfaction falls on SBR.

Do a search of how many posts had to be made before the right thing was *finally* done in the last poker series (re: multi tourney angle shooters). SBR & "Dougie" had to be DRAGGED to do the right thing there; left to them, they were content to do... *drumroll*... NADA.

The community learned (many already knew) that you have to yell & scream around here oft times just to get afforded the courtesy of a response.

Obviously some are just whiners, but many examples can be found of solid SBR posters making contributing solid input(various topics)... only to be totally ignored.

And just LOL ROFL ROFLMAO and any other laughing acronyms about your first line!

I heart ya mate, but the fact is you're an employee of SBR... not exactly an objective observer.

[Optional]

Well that's pretty weak bite.

Lou can take it, argue some literal interpretation point and my opinion means nothing because I'm obviously a biased drone.

You leave little point in even bothering to have a discussion.

Why don't you point out how the hand for hand needs re-coding another several dozen times and other similarly constructive things now.

[SharpAngles]

Well that's pretty weak bite.

Lou can take it, argue some literal interpretation point and my opinion means nothing because I'm obviously a biased drone.

You leave little point in even bothering to have a discussion.

Why don't you point out how the hand for hand needs re-coding another several dozen times and other similarly constructive things now.

you're too good for this pal.

[milwaukee mike]

Well that's pretty weak bite.

Lou can take it, argue some literal interpretation point and my opinion means nothing because I'm obviously a biased drone.

You leave little point in even bothering to have a discussion.

Why don't you point out how the hand for hand needs re-coding another several dozen times and other similarly constructive things now.

stuff like this is probably why it's better to just be ignored... since the alternative around here usually is being talked down to...

[stevek173]

[Auto Donk]

while we're on the f'n topic of re-fckin'coding, how bout recoding the software not to flop two pair vs. my f'n aces every time this f'n month

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Well that's pretty weak bite.

I'm comfortable having others read what I wrote and deciding just how "weak" my last post was.

You gloss right over the stone cold fact that SBR had to be dragged to take action against peeps compromising a 4k+ contest (call me crazy, but I think that's a pretty big deal; maintaining contest(s) integrity should be high priority for SBR. Most would agree w/ that.)

SBR Dougie was a phantom: C'mon man, the poker community doesn't deserve better than that?

You leave little point in even bothering to have a discussion.

That's a cop out exit strategy line, IMHO.
You know me, when have I ever exhibited that a civil discussion can't be had w/me? Ever?

I like and respect you & SBR staff; why can't we flesh this out in a civil manner?

Why don't you point out how the hand for hand needs re-coding another several dozen times and other similarly constructive things now.

Dismissive and condescending. TY... appreciate that.

I, in point of fact, have never posted about that issue, but: 1) It's a legitimate issue as it affects blind structure timing on SBR and 2) the only reason it's been brought up many times by various peeps is b/c... *drumroll*... it always gets ignored (which was my salient point in my supposed "weak" post).

Jake and others pointing out that there should be some difference between those that finish at the top of a leaderboard in a months long contest and the 50th guy is not "complaining"; in fact, it's constructive criticism.

Various other respected peeps chiming in with thoughts about a better payout structure (within SBR limits) is not "complaining"; in fact, it's constructive criticism.(and downsouth even asked for ideas to present)

Wanting angle shooters and cheats removed from contests, then the poker community getting upset when SBR does nothing about it and is content to let the cheats continue on their merry way... well, the subsequent yelling & screaming (only way to garner SBR attention) is not "complaining"; in fact, it's constructive criticism.

I could go on...

BUT... with all this "complaining" the community supposedly does, it should be very easy to present your (implied) case: I challenge you now to offer up (in form of links) all the *legitimate*, unfair complaints SBR is supposedly bombarded with from the poker community.

I eagerly await your proof (I gave examples to back up my arguments above ^^):

Something tells me all you really got (for most part) are the wacky RIGTARDS.

[stevek173]

Lou can take it, Opti.
(Dougie ghost)

And "most" means most... not all.
I like to be precise with the King's English.

Bottom line: When the customer is consistently IGNORED (hell, not even the courtesy of a response 99% of time)... the responsibility for creating the atmosphere of dissatisfaction falls on SBR.

Do a search of how many posts had to be made before the right thing was *finally* done in the last poker series (re: multi tourney angle shooters). SBR & "Dougie" had to be DRAGGED to do the right thing there; left to them, they were content to do... *drumroll*... NADA.

The community learned (many already knew) that you have to yell & scream around here oft times just to get afforded the courtesy of a response.

Obviously some are just whiners, but many examples can be found of solid SBR posters making contributing solid input(various topics)... only to be totally ignored.



I heart ya mate, but the fact is you're an employee of SBR... not exactly an objective observer.

[Optional]

stuff like this is probably why it's better to just be ignored... since the alternative around here usually is being talked down to...

You got it right that it's best to just 'ignore' the constant never ending complaining. The last 3 times I've offered an opinion I've been told what I think matters not as I am obviously biased simply because of my part time job here.

What chance does any admin poster have of a constructive discussion about this with you guys?

And if Bite doesn't like me coming back at him, then don't write me off my opinion as biased without addressing the points made. You don't need to be offended for him Mike.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

And if Bite doesn't like me coming back at him, then don't write me off my opinion as biased without addressing the points made. You don't need to be offended for him Mike.

1) I obviously have no problem you coming back at me; I clearly gave an invitation to have a civil discussion in my last post. YOU'RE the guy that introduced the exit strategy to shut the conversation down (and repeated in this post). 2) I addressed the points (The Doug character was insulting to the community, and addressed as such; clarified word meanings; and never said you're opinion matters not -- I was specific to your "LOL"ing @ my line where I said most don't want to hurt or disparage SBR/staffers. Don't believe my specificity? Look at the post again, you'll see. The comment is separated and is a response to a specific thing you said. FACT. How is that now implied that I believe your opinion matters not? 3) Mike's his own man... certified. A tad condescending comment his way, no?

You got it right that it's best to just 'ignore' the constant never ending complaining.

That's not what mike said... at all.
Nice twist of what he really said... into... using it as a supposed valid excuse for SBR to ignore its posters.
WOW... and you wanna talk about WEAK.

Btw, still waiting on you to PROVE all this "never ending complaining". I invited a conversation and you've ignored addressing my points in my last post (which is kind of a perverse poetic validation of the points I made).

To you & SBR(apparently), if the poker community gets upset that no leaderboard is posted -- for a friggin contest! -- and voices that(lot of Dougie issues w/that): we're complainers. If we continue to voice our displeasure that we've asked for a simple leaderboard and none still shows up: we're even worse complainers. If the poker community voices a dissatisfaction with the unannounced restructuring of the payouts sprung upon them and wants to discuss possible alternatives: we're whiners (even though mod ds solicited opinions for potential better ways).

Take it to the bank: one of the biggest frustrations SBR posters have is the lack of communication from SBR (especially when changes are made).

So... just a few more examples; still others listed in my last post (cheaters' accountability, etc.). None addressed/countered.

Like just a blanket "COMPLAINERS!" from you/SBR washes away reality.

The last 3 times I've offered an opinion I've been told what I think matters not as I am obviously biased simply because of my part time job here.

What chance does any admin poster have of a constructive discussion about this with you guys?

1) You're including me in that "last 3 times" and I've proven above you are mistaken. I made a specific remark to a specific thing you said; you've extrapolated that to mean I think your opinion "matters not". That's on you, not me.

2) "admin poster"'s have a chance if they bring FACTS (like I have)... and not just silly declarations like "WHINERS!", "COMPLAINERS!", "DON'T APPRECIATE ANYTHING!" and things of this ilk. Again, getting upset that no leaderboards are posted (Dougie) & no communication before extreme payout structure change is invoked, and cheaters and angle shooters aren't held accountable until the community screams & yells(still a problem in current contest), and simple tech issues like H2H @ 15 players when pays 5 are forever ignored, etc... WELL, I've got news for ya: these are legit complaints by most any standard.

Where are the illegitimate and unfair complaints I challenged you to produce?
I and others are all ears.
I still say, for the most part, save for an exception here or there... all you have are the RIGTARDS.

[milwaukee mike]

You got it right that it's best to just 'ignore' the constant never ending complaining. The last 3 times I've offered an opinion I've been told what I think matters not as I am obviously biased simply because of my part time job here.

What chance does any admin poster have of a constructive discussion about this with you guys?

And if Bite doesn't like me coming back at him, then don't write me off my opinion as biased without addressing the points made. You don't need to be offended for him Mike.

100% chance if it's civil and respectful on both sides...

I like you optional, gotta have thick skin though. The last 10 times I posted something towards a mod here (and a rational observer would've considered none of those posts offensive or whining) I've been sworn at, ridiculed, talked down to, words put in my mouth, etc, and yet I come back for more!

[Optional]

1) I obviously have no problem you coming back at me; I clearly gave an invitation to have a civil discussion in my last post. YOU'RE the guy that introduced the exit strategy to shut the conversation down (and repeated in this post). 2) I addressed the points (The Doug character was insulting to the community, and addressed as such; clarified word meanings; and never said you're opinion matters not -- I was specific to your "LOL"ing @ my line where I said most don't want to hurt or disparage SBR/staffers. Don't believe my specificity? Look at the post again, you'll see. The comment is separated and is a response to a specific thing you said. FACT. How is that now implied that I believe your opinion matters not? 3) Mike's his own man... certified. A tad condescending comment his way, no?



That's not what mike said... at all.
Nice twist of what he really said... into... using it as a supposed valid excuse for SBR to ignore its posters.
WOW... and you wanna talk about WEAK.

Btw, still waiting on you to PROVE all this "never ending complaining". I invited a conversation and you've ignored addressing my points in my last post (which is kind of a perverse poetic validation of the points I made).

To you & SBR(apparently), if the poker community gets upset that no leaderboard is posted -- for a friggin contest! -- and voices that(lot of Dougie issues w/that): we're complainers. If we continue to voice our displeasure that we've asked for a simple leaderboard and none still shows up: we're even worse complainers. If the poker community voices a dissatisfaction with the unannounced restructuring of the payouts sprung upon them and wants to discuss possible alternatives: we're whiners (even though mod ds solicited opinions for potential better ways).

Take it to the bank: one of the biggest frustrations SBR posters have is the lack of communication from SBR (especially when changes are made).

So... just a few more examples; still others listed in my last post (cheaters' accountability, etc.). None addressed/countered.

Like just a blanket "COMPLAINERS!" from you/SBR washes away reality.



1) You're including me in that "last 3 times" and I've proven above you are mistaken. I made a specific remark to a specific thing you said; you've extrapolated that to mean I think your opinion "matters not". That's on you, not me.

2) "admin poster"'s have a chance if they bring FACTS (like I have)... and not just silly declarations like "WHINERS!", "COMPLAINERS!", "DON'T APPRECIATE ANYTHING!" and things of this ilk. Again, getting upset that no leaderboards are posted (Dougie) & no communication before extreme payout structure change is invoked, and cheaters and angle shooters aren't held accountable until the community screams & yells(still a problem in current contest), and simple tech issues like H2H @ 15 players when pays 5 are forever ignored, etc... WELL, I've got news for ya: these are legit complaints by most any standard.

Where are the illegitimate and unfair complaints I challenged you to produce?
I and others are all ears.
I still say, for the most part, save for an exception here or there... all you have are the RIGTARDS.

Whatever excuse there is for the negativity. No matter how much SBR is to blame for these perceived deficiencies. The end result is unpleasant right now. Let's do what we can to change that. I know 99% of people actually do think the positives outweigh the negatives but it's like a bad habit around here the way people want to harp on a couple of tiny things.

The hand for hand is a piss ant silly problem. It isn't going to be fixed any faster no matter how many times it's mentioned, and talk about flogging a dead horse over it. It isn't a big enough problem to justify the anger. It's just embarrassing for SBR more than anything.

As we have discussed privately it's too difficult to police all the stuff you want policed the way things are currently. I don't have a good answer for that. I can't see a fair way it can be done without investment in software tools and a full time poker expert to monitor things. Personally I'd prefer to put up with how things are and have that money go into poker prizes.

As far as Doug not doing his job well enough. Yes I want a regular leaderboard but I would never rip into my host over why they cant do everything I want when I want for this free contest. As a poker player here I was ashamed of the way our community treated him, whoever you think he really was. And it was from the word go on the first or second day it started.

Yes you are right that you did address my points. And no disrespect intended by not gathering proof and what not you ask for. Yes it's often the rigtards but as SharpAngles demonstrated above, the regular folk get into it too. A lot more than you notice I think.

[Optional]

100% chance if it's civil and respectful on both sides...

I like you optional, gotta have thick skin though. The last 10 times I posted something towards a mod here (and a rational observer would've considered none of those posts offensive or whining) I've been sworn at, ridiculed, talked down to, words put in my mouth, etc, and yet I come back for more!

I'll try not to swear at you Mike

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Well, mike... Opti did say he would try not to swear at YOU, he never said anything about me.

Seems I was fortunate enough to hit the Mod Trifecta, tho:

*fukk you*, *full of shit*, *bald face lies*... click here

Doesn't quite seem to be keeping in line with what he wrote earlier, tho:

The end result is unpleasant right now. Let's do what we can to change that

Hate to think what other colorful language he could've come up with if he wasn't so busy on changing things for the better.

[Optional]

Well, mike... Opti did say he would try not to swear at YOU, he never said anything about me.

Seems I was fortunate enough to hit the Mod Trifecta, tho:

*fukk you*, *full of shit*, *bald face lies*... click here

Doesn't quite seem to be keeping in line with what he wrote earlier, tho:



Hate to think what other colorful language he could've come up with if he wasn't so busy on changing things for the better.

Oh wow. What a cry baby you can be when challenged!

I'm sorry I called you out for resorting to a bald faced lie Bite. I really didn't want to. Even tried to give you a friendly out of the situation.

And you don't need to link that. Happy to repeat the fukk you for writing off my opinion as biased a second time. That is exactly what you were saying to me by repeating it wasn't it?

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Oh wow. What a cry baby you can be when challenged!

I'm sorry I called you out for resorting to a bald faced lie Bite. I really didn't want to. Even tried to give you a friendly out of the situation.

And you don't need to link that. Happy to repeat the fukk you for writing off my opinion as biased a second time. That is exactly what you were saying to me by repeating it wasn't it?

Geez... you're completely lost. I mean, not left field... you've left the ballpark.

You know, I read your post in the other thread late last night (early morning) and figured: "Let bygones be bygones... let's move on" and didn't respond. Even though the post revealed you to be woefully ill-informed (yet again, surprise surpirise), I was gonna just let your inaccuracies slide -- Just figured, moving on....

BUT, now I see this lil gem of a post so that kinda changes things:

1) You're delusional if you think you've "challenged" me. lol The only one proven to lose their cool and resort to profanities is you, not me. I've been completely composed. You, on the other hand...(fukk you, full of shit, bald face lies).

Don't you know people can see that? Don't you know people can see who's lost their composure and who's stayed calm, cool and collected?

2) You can disagree all you want with my knowledge on software and my contention that it's an easy fix for SBR (and another poster that knows software pretty much backed me up)... BUT, hate to break it to ya, but you disagreeing with my contention doesn't make what I say a bald face lie. Don't you think normal thinking people would understand & agree with me on that? Don't you see they can figure out you're being emotional and mislabeling my strongly held contention? I assure you that they can.

3) Anyone following along has already seen you've had trouble reading/comprehending what I've written, at times. You've even had to edit to correct your misunderstanding(s). I've brought up your SBR job in a couple spots in a couple specific situations, and the evidence for anyone to view backs me up (text separated from other text addressing specific points).

So, iow, to answer your question: NO. You are once again mistaken. I at no point made a sweeping generalization that your overall opinion was biased. You're just losing your composure, again, and overreacting and being emotionally sensitive. People can easily see you losing your cool with the "fuk you"... which you childishly repeat again here. The peeps will discern correctly.

[stevek173]

penetrate both of you

#catfight

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

the helmet on steve's avatar isn't the only one he's intimately familiar with

#NoMensaMember